Today, a lesson in advanced Facebook dating mathematics, courtesy of our friend Roissy/Heartiste.
First: fellas, remember that online dating is stacked against us, due to the ability of the ladies to post pictures of themselves looking cute on Facebook – one of the gravest injustices of the modern world. As Heartiste explains, in a post with the bracing title You’ll Need Hard Negs For Facebook Game:
So you’ve got millions of women posting flattering pics of themselves and personal details that are uniformly positive on their FB walls, and you’ve got a bunch of cloying betas feeding the egos of these women even further with painstakingly crafted supportive comments, and you expect to make any headway with tepid game? That is a bitch shield too strong to breach.
But if you must engage the ladies on this unfavorable terrain, remember to adjust your calculations accordingly. As Heartiste explains this new math:
The combination of self-selected profiles and nonstop beta adulation will boost a 5′s self-conception to a 7. Since 5s already have a self-conception of 6 thanks to the phenomenon of female upward dating momentum and the alpha cock carousel, you now have a double-strength bitch shield to bust instead of a single strength.
I’ve prepared a simple chart to illustrate this point:
But wait! There’s more:
Remember, if a 5 believes she’s a 7 (“But I *feel* like a 7!”) she is also going to believe that male 7s are not high enough status for her. Women are not truly happy unless they are dating men 0.5 to 2 sexual market value points higher than themselves.
Five thinks it’s seven. But seven is five. SEVEN IS FIVE!
The reality, of course, is that the male 7 is two full points higher than the female 5. But the Facebook wall has meddled with the primal forces of nature. An unbridgeable chasm brought about by the advance of technology has severed the organically emergent hierarchy of the dating market where there is no escape from soul withering judgments made in mere seconds.
So, as always, the best bet for the modern man is to find some lady in the real world who actually thinks she’s the number she is. Then, simply neg her until she hates herself. That’s how the math is supposed to work.
How can you assume that there are women who like me? And what do you mean by troll?
ithiliana: Funny, but with a BS evo psych explanation at the end.
By troll, Lian Li, I mean a person who comes in applauding someone who says that women are brainless monsters, then hangs around to ask completely nonsensical and annoying questions.
Ok, Holly, I admit I abused your attention and patience, and I feel a bit guilty now, and could even apologize but that would be troll’s remorse and so no. But be assured that you’re all extremely entertaining.
Arks may appear to be off his meds as one poster put it, and living with a delusional view of reality, but when he posts gems of craziness such as vaginas = “slobbering crotch maws” or women attending cons = “greasy buttered manatees” the appropriate response is not to say “I really like you” — admiration of unhinged misogyny is not itself admirable, Lian. As far as trolls go, you seem to be the boring and dense variety, which is rather lamentable, as it’s much more fun to skewer and roast the bizarre ones.
Most men are like that TOO, ya know! People are basically mechanical, and women of course are no exception(though some of them would us like to think so…LOL).
INB4 “ur just another misogynist!” : I don’t people in general, and last time I checked women are people. QED
My dear Xanthe, we’re just having fun, nobody get’s roasted here. Ok in the other thread we have a horrible, horrible troll’s remorse by MRAL, who says he was ‘demi-trolling’… ugh! So Arks, though he clearly not believes what he says, might be ‘demi-trolling’, too. Horrible! Where are the true trolls left, the true trolls in the Encyclopaedia-Dramatica-sense… that’s really depressing.
@Katz: ithiliana: Funny, but with a BS evo psych explanation at the end.
True, but I skimmed over/ignored it, because it was just so perfect–all these mras claiming women rank themselves too high, and now at least some proof that MEN DO IT TOO.
ED is actually funny sometimes, though, as all effective trolling needs to be. When most people react to your comments with bored eye-rolling you may want to consider the possiblity that you’re just not very good at being a troll.
Of late Arks’ rants have gone considerably OTT, which you are right Lian in supposing that they are sufficiently incredible that even their author may not believe them, but the possibility remains that they are the unsound products of a delusional mind – hopefully the perturbation is only temporary. In the meantime, in case you hadn’t noticed we like setting a good troll or MRA on the spit, and toasting marshmallows. Or is the meme to break out the popcorn? Whatever.
ooooooomiggggggggoooodd how are you this pretentious about trolling? what went lame in your life to make you think ‘of human wankage’ was an appropriate posting style?
The comment section of posts on this blog would be a SNORE if it weren’t for some of us menz who keep the pot stirred!
Trollz: can’t live with em, can’t live without em. 😛
Cassandra, I can be very funny, the point is, it’s sometimes an interesting thought that I want to elaborate, which can get tedious, especially here.
Trolling should not be funny except for the troll, I don’t want to be joked about like NWO or Arks (though he’s really damn funny, “Not in a neckbeard sense but more of an ‘uncanny valley’ sense.” <= brilliant), it's the holy grail of trolling to get a really violent hostile reaction, which I managed much better than anyone else.
LL: I can be very funny
[citation needed]
I haven’t read or followed Encyclopedia Dramatica, and so have no idea what the ‘classic’ or ‘canon’ trollishness should be like.
My experiences are limited to fan spaces or feminist spaces where there is no humor and less wit in the trolls.
So far the trolls here have not given me any evidence to the contrary.
So, well, citation needed?
Lian Li, you won’t be joked about like NWO or Meller or even Arks, because you’re too boring.
Eventually you’ll be ignored.
“Cassandra, I can be very funny”
I’ve seen no evidence of that. Also, as far as hostile reactions are concerned, you have utterly failed so far. “You’re boring, go away” is small fry compared to the stuff we have to say to Meller or NWO. Try harder, boring troll!
@ Ithiliana – I actually know people who’ve contributed to ED. Our new friend here is most definitely sub-par by their standards.
Hey guys, check it out, I wrote a dating marked value test!
http://cboye.wordpress.com/2011/12/15/a-gender-neutral-dating-market-value-test/
Sharculese, sissy boy has arrived and tries to be intelligent, but he’s no match for me, I pay lumosity.com 200 bucks a year for flash games that scientifically proven enhance my brain power! They say my IQ increased to 175. Try that!
Come on, Sharculese, you loser, why can’t you be a real man, look at your avatar, embarrassing, how can I ever take you seriously? I would knock you out with one hit. Too bad the F-word is banned, you would deserve it.
And Cassandra, you don’t know nothing, if I’m boring, your counter trolls attempts are boooooooooring. As I said, I was Scott-Adams-trolling, that’s necessarily not so extreme.
Lian Li, you gotta learn the difference between “troll” and “shitposter.”
Troll is “Spanish and Russian use the same alphabet, women should all be slaves to men, and I am in love with my collection of dolls.” (Only delivered with passion.)
Shitposter is low-effort, unfunny, excessively self-aware “look guys I’m a troll and I’m trolling you lol aren’t you offended yeah I just trolled you lol.”
You, Lian Li, are a shitposter.
Oh my gosh katz that is the greatest thing I’ve ever seen. Kitties indeed.
Keep going with the insults, Lian LI. Boring troll is boring.
You also need to learn the difference between “counter troll” and “mock”.
@Holly:
Nah, ok, I’m just a shitposter then, but at least we know now that Bee is especially stupid, because she was very offended.
Where has Meller been for the past few days anyway? I hope something unfortunate didn’t happen when he was wanking with his dolls and/or plushy.