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MRA: Women hate engineering because it’s too hard and they’d rather mooch off their husbands.

Computer Engineer Barbie is sick of this bullshit.

Ever wonder why there are so few women engineers? Well, wonder no more, because carchamp1 over on the Men’s Rights subreddit has the answer! It’s apparently his wife’s fault, or something. In a comment with two dozen upvotes at last count, he explains:

I put my wife through four years of college to be an engineer. That’s four years worth of college tuition and expenses, plus not having any income from her. She got a great job and worked for a couple years. She decided she didn’t want to work anymore so she could be a “stay-at-home-mom”. When I urged her to work she said if I didn’t like it she would take our kid and I could leave.

Women don’t want to be engineers that’s why there are so few. It’s too hard. It’s a lot easier doing the “hardest job in the world”, you know, be a mom and living off your husband.

End of story.

Yeah, it’s not like there might be any other reasons beyond laziness and ingratitude, or anything.

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Caraz
Caraz
9 years ago

Arthur C. Clarke was fooled by fairies though, Meller. You appear to have been fooled by everything in the pseudo-science and kook spheres.

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

Holly: If our thoughts are nothing but electrical impulses wandering through the brain, it should be possible to invent a gadget that can translate those impulses from someone else’s brain into something we can understand. Of course, we’d probably need a computer as advanced as a human brain to do that, but it’s possible. Just not likely.

It’s not just electricity, though, there’s a lot of chemical reactions as well. I guess it’s possible that someday we’ll be able to read and interpret a human brain, but it’s a long way off.

“Magic is simply tachnology that we don’t yet understand”–Arthur C. Clarke

Okay, never the fact that most of the science fiction you’re describing is actually fantasy and is impossible–why do you think men would have invented it?

What exactly is in a testicle that makes you so sure enough of them put together would give you a perpetual motion machine? How freaking magical are those things?

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

Caraz – Psst, that was Arthur Conan Doyle.

:p

Caraz
Caraz
9 years ago

Oh yeah, Arthur C Clarke did a documentary or something about world of strange powers…That’s where I mixed them up I guess.

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

But what Arthur C. Clarke actually said was “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” Which is an entirely different thing from saying technology can do any kind of magic you want–it’s just saying that technology can surpass our ability to understand its internal operations.

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

Oh, and Terminator 2 was written by two men. I really hate having the words of fictional women written by men used as evidence of women’s evil ways.

KathleenB
KathleenB
9 years ago

It’s not just electricity, though, there’s a lot of chemical reactions as well

Good point, I’d forgotten about the chemicals – and anything on that order is a long, long way away.

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
9 years ago

Tatjna:

What does feminism really have to do with strong AI? Such machines would have no biological sex and there’d be no actual need to equip them with gender. I’ve always viewed robots that aren’t sexbots to be completely and totally gender neutral.

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

An ability and willingness to ask thoughtful and perceptive questions is a part of scientific research–or if you can’t ask them, at least listen to those who can–and it certainly seems that the eminent female geniuses who populate manboobz.com have serious limitations there!

What would have happened if everyone from Archimedes to Copernicus, from Galileo to Newton, from Lavoisier to Huygens and Priestly, from van Loewenhoek to Faraday and Pasteur had decided that they (or their teachers) knew everything that there was to know, and didn’t ask such questions?

Could such parochial closed mindedness have played a part in why women were–and are–less active in science and engineering than alleged or imagined social pressures?

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
9 years ago

Oh, and Terminator 2 was written by two men. I really hate having the words of fictional women written by men used as evidence of women’s evil ways

That’s true. Can you cite any sci-fi stories about sentient machines written by women where the machines triumph and humanity is wiped out? 😛

Tatjna
Tatjna
9 years ago

Nameless dude:

The AI may be genderless but it will not be operating within a vacuum. While there are other perpecetives, it’s generally accepted that strong AI would be interacting with humans, and humans are gendered. Maybe in the utopian post-singularity transhumanist future, gender will be more fluid both physically and psychologically, but based on our current understandings of humanity, gender is an important thing for an AI to understand. In order for the AI to interact with a variety of genders, a variety of genders must have input into the development of the AI – otherwise all of its interactions will be based on the assumption that it is interacting with white men, and we’ll get an AI that operates like DKM.

Hence, feminism (and other perspectives) are relevant to AI development.

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

What would have happened if everyone from Archimedes to Copernicus, from Galileo to Newton, from Lavoisier to Huygens and Priestly, from van Loewenhoek to Faraday and Pasteur had decided that they (or their teachers) knew everything that there was to know, and didn’t ask such questions?

They’d sound like you.

That’s true. Can you cite any sci-fi stories about sentient machines written by women where the machines triumph and humanity is wiped out?

What is this, fuckin’ Trivial Pursuit? You got a point to make here?

ithiliana
9 years ago

*Twitch*

ARthur C. CLarke is not Arthur Conan Doyle (Fairies, spirituality).

http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/776.html

Of course DKM mangled it: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”

Arthur C. Clarke, “Profiles of The Future”, 1961 (Clarke’s third law)
English physicist & science fiction author (1917 – )

What it means is that people seeing more advanced technology cannot distinguish it from “magic” (i.e. have no explanation for it). It does NOT mean all “magic” is actually technology. And I see that Holly and others have jumped in, but fuckit, I’m gonna post, because, hell, I WROTE A BOOK ABOUT CLARKE’S WORK!

*spitshines irrelevant authority appeal and pins to cap*

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

I haven’t even mentioned the possibilities that would be opened by a robotic(?) entity that could reliably simulate a woman’s emotions, behavior, and mentality in ways that were more pleasant and comfortable to men of homo sapiens than regular women. If it (or she) was also equipped to accomodate men’s sexual pleasures and pursuits, as well as doing other activities which were understood to be feminine, e.g. domestic and homemaking activities, and to do them well, I think that such AI would render many human females obsolete where companionship and love is concerned!

Just a thought…

ithiliana
9 years ago

What would have happened if everyone from Archimedes to Copernicus, from Galileo to Newton, from Lavoisier to Huygens and Priestly, from van Loewenhoek to Faraday and Pasteur had decided that they (or their teachers) knew everything that there was to know, and didn’t ask such questions?

Just a wild ass guess, DKM, but I bet they’d have sounded just like you, more or less, since you claim to know everything, not be unsure of anything, and fall into huge lectures at the drop of a hat, and refuse to acknowledge any opposing points of view.

And you know, you’re a real proponent of the idea that these things come from GREAT MEN and a few mutant women–there is also the fact that context matters, and ideas that were theorized a few millennia ago couldn’t go anywhere without the changes in technology that come as a result of social changes that are NOT attributable to any one GREAT TESTICLE.

ithiliana
9 years ago

@HOlly: You are I are apparently in telepathic rapport, due no doubt to our girly genes, ahahahaha.

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
9 years ago

The AI may be genderless but it will not be operating within a vacuum. While there are other perpecetives, it’s generally accepted that strong AI would be interacting with humans, and humans are gendered. Maybe in the utopian post-singularity transhumanist future, gender will be more fluid both physically and psychologically, but based on our current understandings of humanity, gender is an important thing for an AI to understand. In order for the AI to interact with a variety of genders, a variety of genders must have input into the development of the AI – otherwise all of its interactions will be based on the assumption that it is interacting with white men, and we’ll get an AI that operates like DKM.

Hence, feminism (and other perspectives) are relevant to AI development.

Perhaps the “ethical” thing to do, is to program the sentient machine to ignore gender all together and treat men and women the same way.

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

Perhaps the “ethical” thing to do, is to program the sentient machine to ignore gender all together and treat men and women the same way.

Right, but a man can’t program a machine to ignore gender, not by himself. Because he only has the experience of being male. You need a man and a woman to teach it to treat people the same, or otherwise its best stab at equality will be treating everyone like men.

ozymandias42
9 years ago

Oh! It all makes sense now! DKM comes from a magitek cyberpunk dystopia!

DKM, honey, psi doesn’t exist in this dimension. I know, it startled me too. Without mindmelding as we drift slowly through the waving seaweed of the Planet of Tiny Purple Genderless Octopi (or, I suppose, in your case, as we put on our mirrorshades and prepare to defend the honor of the megacorp), how do they live? But psi is actually physically impossible in this universe! I’m sure this was covered in your orientation packet… have you considered reviewing the frequently asked questions?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Look, I summoned the Kraken! Do not speak his name, for he will come and spew nonsense at you.

Given that he’s convinced that we haven’t had any major advances in technology since the evil feminism put ladies in the workplace I’m willing to speculate that he may in fact have been sleeping under the ocean for a thousand years. Please don’t kill Perseus, MellerKraken, and I will be very upset if you so much as scratch Pegasus.

Tatjna
Tatjna
9 years ago

But what is that way and who decides what the way will be? Because that will influence a great deal in the interactions.

Meanwhile, all this is just a starting point, given that any truly strong AI will immediately begin learning and thus changing. What these ethical debates are mostly about is trying to understand the possibilities in order to ensure that the AI we create is ‘friendly’ – ie that it won’t get switched on, figure out within 20 seconds that we’re a virus on the face of the planet, and systematically start putting us through a meat grinder.

If an AI is logical and logical only,how do you prevent an AI from becoming bigoted based on its experiences?

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

Strawman argument again , ladies.

I never said that all magic was technology, nor that technology was–or is–magical. I merely used what I thought was A.C. Clarke to illustrate that there are many things that Holly P. seemed to think of as “magic” which probably could be readily explained by (distant) future technology, in her post of 12/13 at 1:45 cited above. That was all.

As it is, we all know why i am anxiously awaiting the development of “cybercuties” or “wifebots”, that will give me all of the advantages of female companionship with none of these (utterly revolting) disadvantages! I don’t think that I am alone here, either!

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
9 years ago

What I like about Sophie Germaine is that she never married nor had children. In fact, AFAIK she was a virgin her entire life and devoted all of her time and effort to mathematical pursuits and had little to no interest in any kind of non-pragmatic social interaction.

ozymandias42
9 years ago

I dunno, Dunning-Kruger Man. I like my GIRLFRIEND. I don’t want a robot that can cook and clean and have sex and giggle at my jokes; I want her and her knitting of Pokemon hats and great smile and love for Frank Turner and classic YA and emotional support when I’m depressed and tendency to call me on my shit. That’s what love means.

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
9 years ago

What these ethical debates are mostly about is trying to understand the possibilities in order to ensure that the AI we create is ‘friendly’ – ie that it won’t get switched on, figure out within 20 seconds that we’re a virus on the face of the planet, and systematically start putting us through a meat grinder.

Well, there are those who’d rather that the AI *we* create is not ‘friendly’ as you define it. I do wonder if said persons who would prefer to sacrifice themselves AND the rest of humanity with them are more likely to be men than women.

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

Talking about these details is all a derail from the real question:

Why is DKM so sure we would have more amazing inventions if there were no women in science?

If he answers “I just know we would,” well, that’s proof that at least one male brain isn’t so well cut out for logical thinking.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Meller, the women of the world will rejoice when you get your cybercutie and finally, blessedly shut the fuck up already.

ozymandias42
9 years ago

Here’s the thing, DKM. Science requires evidence. You can’t say there might be a teapot in the asteroid belt, unless you have evidence of an alien tea party going on. While it is possible that there is a teapot in the asteroid belt, it’s so vanishingly unlikely that we might as well say it’s not true.

The same is true of ESP. Sure, it MIGHT be true. But unless you have actual, unfaked, methodologically sound evidence that ESP might work, it is so vanishingly unlikely that you might as well say it’s not true, just like the asteroid belt teapot.

This video explains further: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHIz-gR4xHo

Viscaria
Viscaria
9 years ago

No Name But Tedium:

I’d like to point out that the same could be said(and should be said)for women at the workplace. (straight)Men and women together in the workplace, or sometimes even in an academic setting, results in sexual tension which is bad for moral and productivity.

First of all, it makes no more sense to blame that on women in the workplace as men in the workplace. Why not kick out all the blokes?

Second of all, I’m surrounded by sexy people every frickin’ day. I sat down by a very sweet, very gorgeous blonde woman for my exam today. I received it from my exceptionally cute professor (who gave me a “student, I am disappoint” look when I was 20 minutes late, by the way v.v). There are sexy people on the bus, sexy people in this coffee shop… When I was working this summer, there were sexy people in my department who it would have been totally inappropriate to get involved with. I bought some DVD’s for my brother’s Christmas present the other day from a youngish guy who was so totally sexy and obviously thought the same of me.

If I can deal with that every day in pretty much every situation, you can deal with it at work.

blitzgal
9 years ago

Right, but a man can’t program a machine to ignore gender, not by himself. Because he only has the experience of being male. You need a man and a woman to teach it to treat people the same, or otherwise its best stab at equality will be treating everyone like men.

Case in point, the programming of Siri, where a person can easily find local escort services and strip clubs but not women’s health centers or abortion clinics*. The programmers were not making a point about abortion, they merely didn’t even consider that it might be information that their end users could potentially be asking for.

*And let’s not pretend that abortion is some kind of a niche service. It’s a medical procedure that one third of American women will undergo at some point in their lives.

blitzgal
9 years ago

Why is DKM so sure we would have more amazing inventions if there were no women in science?

Because he’s a hateful misogynist who flatly ignores any evidence that does not conform to the preconceived notion that women are terrible creatures. It’s really no more complicated than that.

For a historical example, Eli Whitney would never have accomplished his invention of the cotton gin without a woman. Catherine Littlefield Greene not only financially sponsored his work but also was the person who figured out how to get the seeds out of the cotton (with a comb).

For a more current example of scientific research, the reason we know why duck penises are ridiculously corkscrewed is because it took a woman researcher to say, “Why don’t we look and see what the duck vagina is doing?” It was only then that researchers realized that the duck penis had adapted to try and circumvent the twisty channels of the duck vagina.

Fine, duck research may not be mind-blowing stuff, but there are countless examples of this. You need multiple perspectives to achieve success.

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

Blitzgal – I hate to make it all about “women understand vaginas!”, too. Most of it’s just… why cut off 50% of your talent pool?

“Because the other 50% of our talent pool can’t keep their pants on” isn’t just insulting, it’s patently untrue. There are labs around the country where men and women work together and the projected mass unpantsing has yet to occur.

Tatjna
Tatjna
9 years ago

Nameless dude:
Yes, at the moment the creators of *any* AI are more likely to be men than women, and those who create AI for The Purposes Of Evil are also more likely to be men than women – but that has more to do with the gender balance in the field than any gender-inherent traits of the researchers. There are more men with the power to start wars, ergo more men start wars. Etc.

I think having a broad spectrum of genders, ethnicities etc involved in the development of AI is likely to create a more balanced development overall, which may lead to the AI being more ‘friendly’ in general due to having a broader understanding of the world and the various perspectives on it.

DKM is an example of single-perspective thinking and how it lead to the I’M RIGHT YOU’RE WRONG mentality. I don’t want AI coming out like him.

Kiki
Kiki
9 years ago

Christ on a cracker. Get the fuck off the Internet then, DKM, you ungrateful little shitbag, and don’t come back until you’ve invented the fucking hover board.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

“He’s such an incorrigible narcissist that he genuinely believes that sooner or later we’ll be so irresistibly charmed by him that we’ll end up agreeing.”

He thinks that he can manipulate us by forcing us to seek his approval, too. I’ve seen him try it several times. It’s always very funny – the idea that some women really don’t give a shit whether or not he likes them, wants to fuck them, thinks they’re attractive, etc, seems to completely elude him. It makes me wonder if he was a PUA at some point.

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

Is it manipulation? I figured he just earnestly thought everyone cares what he thinks of them.

B__don seems to have an overall very skewed idea of what it’s like to care about other people and how that’s supposed to work.

Viscaria
Viscaria
9 years ago

the idea that some women really don’t give a shit whether or not he likes them, wants to fuck them, thinks they’re attractive, etc, seems to completely elude him.

Once upon a time he went from telling me “your point is invalid because you’re not sexy LOL” to “I don’t care about your point, pix or GTFO so I can know if you’re sexy LOL” to “your point is invalid, as your only value to me is as a potential lay let’s do lunch LOL” in a period of probably 90 minutes. At least if you’re trying to make me feel bad using my sexuality, you can do it in a consistent way.

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

Blitzgal–December13,2011 @ 2:59pm

Don’t be silly, blitzgal!

I don’t think that women “are terrible creatures”. Women are terrible only when you, or they, behave terribly! Women are lovely and charming in their natural state, working hard to attract a man, keep a home, and raise children! It is when women are twisted onto unnatural, or even perverse and distorted paths that their sexuality and gender specific identity becomes twisted and develops into a pseudo masculine form.

The woman (?) then pursues a largely masculine ‘career”, takes to walking, talking, and publically presenting herself as an imitation man, or at least the way she imagines a man to be. She acquires all of the bad habits of masculinity with none of the virtues, and no counterbalancing femininity! She associates with other like-minded women(?), pursues too much of a masculine type of education, and then competes with men on their (men’s) own terms.

The result is a noisy, opinionated, pushy, pedantic, and almost obsessively self-righteous creature. She cannot take any enjoyment in a man’ s company, his conversation, still less, his love, and so she is addicted to an unrelenting “anything you can do, I can do better” type of interaction with a person who otherwise would be her nearest and dearest, or at least someone who would be glad to appreciate her and her womanhood in a big way!

More’s the pity!

Eventually, she hardens (there is no other word for it) into that most undesirable of all creatures–the feminist! Equality replaces complementarity, uniformity replaces harmony, and envy and bitterness replaces love–love for her womanly nature, love for men, love for traditional femininity, and love for her life itself. A creature who is disagreeable when not pitiful and pitiful when not disagreeable! Her only satisfaction comes from humiliating, or otherwise attacking the man whom she envies and yet hates–if she can’t be masculine, she is damned if anyone else, least of all a wretched MAN, is going to be! Look at the posts on manboobz.com if you have any doubts…

The rest, is unfortunately history. Women can be lovely! Feminists, on the other hand, are often quite hateful, and that is why I hate them!

Shaenon
9 years ago

You know, I’m genuinely saddened by Meller’s apparent belief that we haven’t had any interesting or useful advances in science and technology recently, because it implies a severe lack of attention to and wonder at the world around him.

Agreed… but even if Meller were right, and vaginas were sucking all the creativity out of the world like miniature black holes (hey, another scientific discovery from the post-feminist era!*), I’d still choose equal rights over cold fusion. I wouldn’t be any happier doing housework all day if my vacuum cleaner were telepathic, cybernetically melded to my arm, and powered by the Hawking radiation emanating from my vagina.

*Yeah, okay, the basic concept goes back centuries, but we didn’t actually find one and confirm it as such until around 1990.

kiki
kiki
9 years ago

I have a creepy feeling that the MRAs here may already know this, but the word for a female android is a gynoid. But there you go, DKM – if it’s new to you, you can now use it in conversation, as in “I’m so terrified of real women that I’d rather fuck a gynoid!”

A good short film on the subject of AI and machine identities is The Second Renaissance, an animation set in the Matrix universe (and which fits more intelligence and meaning into half an hour than you’ll find in the two-quite-good-hours-and-four-hours-of-turgid-crap that was the movie series). It recounts the story of the machine-human war that led to the movie plotline, and it makes the machine-human war in the Terminator series look like a mildly antagonistic round of croquet.

At one point the machines send two emissaries to the UN to plea for peace. Their bodies are designed to look rudimentarily male and female, and they are each wearing a few items of gender-specific clothing. They look faintly ridiculous, and are thrown out by the belligerent leaders of our species. Later, after they have defeated humankind on the battlefield, they send another emissary to make their demands. This one has six or eight arms and a huge bug head with dozens of red eyes, and speaks in a voice that is both male and female.

So perhaps they’ll come up with their own version of the gender thing, or opt out altogether.

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

That’s real nice DKM but it turns out I’m actually a person.

Not a woman. A person, who happens to be a woman. I’m a person first. “Woman” is just a detail, the sort of person I am.

So don’t go telling me that every kind of competence other than excellence in dollishness is masculine. It’s not. It’s persony.

Shaenon
9 years ago

Anyway, if the Pern books and The Girl with the Silver Eyes taught me anything, it’s that women are usually at the forefront of mind-melding-with-animals science.

Wetherby
Wetherby
9 years ago

The result is a noisy, opinionated, pushy, pedantic, and almost obsessively self-righteous creature. DKM cannot take any enjoyment in a woman’ s company, her conversation, still less, her love, and so he is addicted to an unrelenting “anything you can do, I can do better” type of interaction.

Fixed it for you.

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

Silly question: If I get my ovaries removed and have testosterone injections, will I be competent to go outdoors and work at non-dollish jobs? I’ll be hormonally male!

What if I had it done before puberty?

When does the magic happen, DKM? What amazing powers does testosterone have? And is there any reason I couldn’t get them just by injecting some?

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

I know it sounds sort of ridiculous for women to transition to male just for the sake of being good scientists, but apparently if we did it we’d have immortality by now, so you know, seems like a good plan to me.

Kyrie
Kyrie
9 years ago

noname-chan said:

That’s true. Can you cite any sci-fi stories about sentient machines written by women where the machines triumph and humanity is wiped out?

I didn’t get the point of the question, but I think the answer is still interesting, from a ‘fun fact!’ POV.
Frankenstein or The Modern Prometheus, by Mary Shelley.
It doesn’t exactly fit your definition since the monster of the story is not a machine, but this story was the first on the subject of “Science is great and powerful. Hey, what about doing a artificial sentient being, it sounds fun! Haaaaaaaaaaa, we lost control!”
Not only is this book an example of this type of story, Shelley invented this kind of stories. ^_^ Please feel free to try to fit that in your “women are this, men are that” woldview.

Also, Mary got very famous for this story, much more than her poet husband who was very pissed about it. (even though he encouraged her to write at first)

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

I love the mental image of MellerKraken in a modern office, sitting at his desk frothing in outrage until he just can’t take it any more, provoked by the insolence of those females walking around like they have a right to be there, and he is forced by the gross wrongness of the modern world to begin shrieking at his office mates.

“Out, thou foul frigid lezzie strumpet! No longer shall you vex men with this refusal to accept your proper place in society! To the Houses of Entertainment with all of you!”

ozymandias42
9 years ago

My big question is “so?”

So what if some women became masculinized? Are they less happy? Less productive? Less fulfilled? Are they in any way negatively affected by giving up their gender role? If no, why do we give a fuck? Traditional gender roles aren’t good just because they’re traditional.

Admittedly, DKM wants them less, but other men (such as our commenters) seem perfectly fine with masculinized women. So I repeat: what’s the problem?

ithiliana
9 years ago

@Ozymandias42: Not only do I see NO problem, but the thought of DKM frothing in horror at my loudy, mouthy, competitive, nasty self makes me feel all warm’n’cuddly inside! Because if he disapproves of me, I must be doing something right.

NOw off to buy catfood!

Kyrie
Kyrie
9 years ago

Women are lovely and charming in their natural state, working hard to attract a man, keep a home, and raise children!

Anything that need a shitload of social pressure and laws to be enforced is not natural.

She cannot take any enjoyment in a man’ s company, his conversation, still less, his love, and so she is addicted to an unrelenting “anything you can do, I can do better” type of interaction with a person who otherwise would be her nearest and dearest, or at least someone who would be glad to appreciate her and her womanhood in a big way!

Since we are evil women who don’t raise children and still men jobs or get cushy feminine ones, I don’t see why we would have or want boyfriends, lovers or husbands? IS it… just for sex?? Are women only in relation ship for sex now? Heu..I must have got lost someplace…

My boyfriend is working to get a PhD in math. He’s better at math than me, i’ve no problem acknowledging that, but it’s not because he has more testosterone than me. And I love listening to him! Sometimes it doesn’t even matter what he says, because I love hearing his British accent. 🙂

And what about male friends? From tv shows, I know every modern woman’s best friend is a gay male, which is not a person a straight woman has a lot of chance to get into bed. So, why do we have male friends at all?