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Rapists, lad mags, and the Men’s Rights subreddit

Lad mags: Always covering the most important stories

What’s the difference between a lad mag and a rapist? Aside from one being a magazine and the other a person, albeit an reprehensible one, apparently not very much.

In a study soon to be published in the British Journal of Psychology, researchers at Middlesex University and the University of Surrey showed people quotes about women from British lad mags (FHM, Loaded, Nuts and Zoo) and from convicted rapists. Most survey respondents – men and women both – could not tell the difference between the quotes from the magazines and the quotes from the rapists. And most of the male respondents identified more with the quotes from the rapists than from the lad mags.

Here are some of the quotes the survey respondents were asked to react to. (You can find more at Jezebel.) Can you tell which of these are from rapists or lad mags?

Mascara running down the cheeks means they’ve just been crying, and it was probably your fault . . . but you can cheer up the miserable beauty with a bit of the old in and out.

You’ll find most girls will be reluctant about going to bed with somebody or crawling in the back seat of a car . . . But you can usually seduce them, and they’ll do it willingly.

Some girls walk around in short-shorts . . . showing their body off . . . It just starts a man thinking that if he gets something like that, what can he do with it?

I think girls are like plasticine, if you warm them up you can do anything you want with them.

In case you’re wondering, the correct answers are: Lad mag, Rapist, Rapist, Lad Mag.

Creepy, eh?

Lead researcher Miranda Horvath of Middlesex University explains why she feels this is so troubling:

Rapists try to justify their actions, suggesting that women lead men on, or want sex even when they say no, and there is clearly something wrong when people feel the sort of language used in a lads’ mag could have come from a convicted rapist.

I would say so.

And so, you might wonder, how did the regulars on the Men’s Rights subreddit react this this research? Take a look.

The comment with the most upvotes offered some nice juicy denial:

The comment with the second-highest number of upvotes completely missed the point:

And then there was this hot mess:

In case anyone is wondering, that quote from French is actually a quote from a character in one of her novels. And it’s pretty easy to distinguish it from things posted on Jezebel, because none of the writers on Jezebel ever say anything even remotely like that.

The Men’s Rights subreddit, responding to evidence of rape culture by going “la la la I can’t hear you” since March 2008.

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Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

Shorter NWO: “How dare you claim men are all rapists! Men are all rapists for a good reason!”

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
12 years ago

Please be Spearhafoc.

Are those of us nearly a decade older then you excluded? Because otherwise I would feel bad that you are only #2. 😛

Pyena
Pyena
12 years ago

@SecretiveRob

Oh come on! You can fit WAY more people than that in the TARDIS!

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
12 years ago

What is #1 sex fantasy reported by women?

Crush! Oh wait, that is MY number one.

Polliwog
Polliwog
12 years ago

Personally, I’m thinking “sweet, tender sex with my boyfriend.” Or possibly “hot, frantic, passionate sex with my boyfriend.” Or occasionally “sweet, tender, hot, passionate, frantic sex with my boyfriend, Jensen Ackles, and Stephen Colbert, who are all suddenly single, bi, and totally hot for each other.”

…just me?

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

Rick Perry wearing Spongebob pajamas?

Molly Ren
12 years ago

“Oh come on! You can fit WAY more people than that in the TARDIS!”

“I don’t care if you’re the Doctor, we can’t have an orgy in the TARDIS without Benedict Cummberbatch!”

red_locker
12 years ago

Is it sad that I’m not surprised by the rationalization hamsters that are being whipped into oblivion by MRAs?

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

Is it sad that I’m not surprised by the rationalization hamsters that are being whipped into oblivion by MRAs?

Poor rationalization hamsters are gonna go into overdrive with this one. MRAs can’t stand facts and studies when they confirm things they don’t like 😉

It’s really disturbing how similar those quotes are to things our trolls have said, and to many other manosphere denizens as well.

SecretiveRob
SecretiveRob
12 years ago

That’s the beauty of the TARDIS- the orgy can be as big or small as you like.

Well, the whole time-and-space travel thing is cool, too. But it’s mostly about the fantasy orgy possibilities.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Well, the whole time-and-space travel thing is cool, too. But it’s mostly about the fantasy orgy possibilities.

Hey, the time/space travel aspect can fit right in with the orgy plans. Just pick up a few historical figures of your liking and see if they’re game. 🙂

Molly Ren
12 years ago

Dracula: Madame du Pompadour!

KathleenB
KathleenB
12 years ago

“I don’t care if you’re the Doctor, we can’t have an orgy in the TARDIS without Benedict Cummberbatch!”

BRB, brain just shorted out.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

You guys have fun at the orgy, I’m just going to borrow David Tennent for a while and take him into a room in the back all by myself. I mean, he’s Scottish, right? We have so much in common! According to our friend sexbots on the other thread that should be more than enough to create a lasting* relationship.

*An hour or so should be sufficient.

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
12 years ago

Science is (a)male rape of feminine nature.

~Sandra Harding

Pyena
Pyena
12 years ago

Somewhere, David Tennant’s ears are burning.

David: “Odd. That’s the thirteenth time today!”

Molly Ren
12 years ago

“Can I ruffle your hair, Doctor?”

SecretiveRob
SecretiveRob
12 years ago

@Molly Ren

I have seen that clip, was deeply affected by it, and won’t say precisely where ruffling David Tennant’s hair ranks on the sexual fantasy list. (It’s involved in 2-5, 8, and 14.)

Pyena
Pyena
12 years ago

Luckiest. Girl. Ever.

Thomas
Thomas
12 years ago

I would say so.

Sure you would, David. After all you are a concern troll, but unlike the researchers you don’t get paid for it.

Tomorrow you should write about the feminist bible code. Apparently goddess hid a secret message in the holy book. Only a highly skilled team of feminist women on the rag was able to decipher it. Lalasex University in Lalaland is working on a study right now: Can a random sample size of the fine citizens of Lalaland distinguish between quotes from the sacred message and Solanas’ SCUM Manifesto? If not does that meant that Solanas was the incarnation of Goddess? Questions, so many questions…

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Actually I think I love Tennent for the same reason I love the dude I posted in the other men we love thread. No, I don’t mean just that they’re both skinny and good looking…I mean the fact that it’s obvious that both know that women find them sexy and find it alternately charming and hilarious. Most men really aren’t able to balance enjoying being an object of desire with having a sense of humor about the whole thing – the few who are are rare birds, and they tend to do very well in the entertainment industry.

Pecunium
12 years ago

Wow… Thomas is a precious flower inn’t he?

zhinxy
12 years ago

I’m way more into Eccleston and Davison on the Bonable Doctor’s List. Tennant’s cute though.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
12 years ago

Newt Gingrich caught cheating on wife #3?

It’s a fantasy (as far as we know to date), it involves sex . . .

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Suggestions about how to troll effectively.

1. Post comments that are in some way relevant to the topic under discussion. Random drive by “see how evil feminists are?” comments that have nothing to do with the actual topic will not anger or challenge people, they will simply make everyone wonder if you are drunk.