Men’s Rights Activists generally like to pretend that the world is some kind of feministy dystopian hellscape for men. No so the gentle MRA philosopher who calls himself Cooter Bee. In a recent post on A Voice for Men, he admits frankly that
In absolute terms, men have never had it better. Our lives are longer than ever before. Especially in the western world, we are not nearly as plagued by violence and disease as our grandfathers. Never in history have we had as much economic opportunity or as much latitude to choose our own careers and our ultimate station in life.
Well golly. Sounds like life is pretty good for us dudes.
We are clearly neglected and abused relative to women, but is that really a legitimate comparison? Is that any more meaningful than measuring how we are doing compared to squirrels or dolphins? There are a few men who do cross-over and become women but I never heard of even one who did it to gain access to all the goodies that go with being an entitlement skank. I know of few men who would be anything else despite the supposed unfairness.
So what is the beef? Could it be that even though men are doing better than ever that the level of ingratitude is also disproportionately high?
Uh oh. Do I smell some “we hunted the mammoth to feed you” coming up?
Let’s face it. Men are and always have been where it’s at when it comes to sustaining this world. In former days, men used to get some credit for it. Not now. Scorn, vitriol and blame are the thanks we get for making this world livable. Biting the hand that feeds you was always a no-no. Perhaps that’s what eats me.
Hmm. Given that most women work, and that women make up roughly half the work force, it seems to me that most women are actually feeding themselves. Statistics on all this are readily available.
I am starting to tire of all the stats and data.
Statistics? We don’t need no stinkin’ statistics!
Isn’t the fact that we don’t like what is going on enough reason to change it?
So you’d rather fight against imagined ingratitude than real injustices?
Ironically, after acknowledging that he’s primarily motivated by feelings, not fact, Mr. Bee accuses women of not being able to deal with gender issues rationally:
Talking equity among men is useful because men are capable of equity. Exceptionally few women are capable. Talking about equity to a typical woman is like talking particle physics to a baboon.
We want it the way we want it and so it should be done. No other justification is significant.. We have it good but want it to be better still.
Well, at least he’s being honest about it, I guess.
EDITED TO ADD: The comments on this post on AVfM are, of course, a treat. Here are some choice excerpts from my favorite one, posted by a fella calling himself DruidV:
[D]id any of you ever stop to consider the very first expendables in this gendercidal war against us?
You know, those accomodating Men of the sixties and seventies who were just trying to do the “right” thing. Those Men, who reluctantly but dejectedly gave up their lives and livelihoods so that millions of poor, oppressed wimmin could enter the work force (and completely FUBAR it, btw) in the name of ekwality.
Was there ever any kind of token memorial statue erected by the wimmin, to honor these displaced Men who were forced to hand it all over to their future political enemies? Was there even ONE?
Ever?
My grandFather just happened to be one of these very first Men to be displaced from his job by a woman, at the hands of the government. He never fully recovered from the loss, to be sure. But hey, who gives a shit right? As long as some loud-mouthed, 1960′s hatchett wounds could feel “liberated”, umm sorry-I meant to say “Empowered(tm)”, it made no difference how many Men were sacrificed…
So, yeah, let’s get working on that memorial, folks! I wonder if we could get Maya Lin to design it?
“Cooter Bee”??? Between him and Buttman, I don’t even…
Wow, fact free and hateful, with a big side order of stupid and emotional. The perfect MRA.
“Entitlement skank” — and this guy claims men can discuss these issues rationally? What a give-away.
“We want it the way we want it and so it should be done.”
That’s like a perfect storm of entitled asshattery, isn’t it?
So…he has acknowledged that men get it better, yet is all like, “SO WHAT? I STILL WANT TO BE A COMPLETE PRICK TO WOMEN!”?
Lovely.
Which is funny, because women study particle physics, so equity must be, like, the most complicated thing ever.
Me, I just thought it was how much your house was worth after you paid off the loans and stuff.
Yeah, he also said
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Yeah, most of the MRA’s have had dogmatic positions and listened to nothing from the get go. I’m not sure how that’s a new strategy.
““We want it the way we want it and so it should be done”
The MRM finally has an official motto.
Seconding. I want to see an Offical MRA Seal bearing these words.
okay need a few minutes
This seems tangentally related:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.485263830183.384706.476920085183
I Want to Become a Woman! – Mental Health Through Manga
Why do so many men say they want to become women?
Yuu Mental Clinic, an accredited psychiatric clinic, provides an explanation of this facet of male psychology in manga format with the aid of doctor Ryo Shinnai and nurse Asuna Kangoshi, translated in this Album
Yuu Mental Clinic is by Ueno station in Tokyo – those in need of mental health services can visit their site at http://yucl.net/; they also publish a series of web comics explaining the treatment mental health issues through manga.
via Sankaku Complex
Note: Japanese Manga are read from Right to Left… just in case you didn’t know.
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TA-DAA!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/wolfychan/mraseal.jpg
Holly wins everything.
@Holly: Amazing job.
It will be claimed that only women have the rationalization hamster, and thus we are projecting our own brains onto men, as we often do.
NO, I bet you.
His Grandfather? How old was his grandfather at the time, because my father was in his 20s latter sixties.
So unless he’s saying his grandfather was displaced from a middle/upper, as opposed to entry, level position that’s still putting him in his forties, which means he, and the guy’s intermediate parent, had to have been both having kids at an early age for DruidV to be as much as 20.
@Whatever: That was an interesting read.
I sometimes wish I were a girl, but have no delusions that as a man (on top of being straight and white) I have it really easy.
Oops, should be “delusions that as a man I DON’T have it really easy.”
We want it the way we want it and so it should be done.
Only Yul Brynner is allowed to say that.
As a genderqueer person, the news that MAAB trans people of a variety of types exist is…totally and utterly non-shocking… (though a part of me wonders what Whatever is therefore trying to imply about FAAB trans people)
Their motto could be “Semper Whiny.”
According to that manga, one of the advantages of being a woman is “can touch your own breasts whenever you want.”
So that’s a work of scholarship, right there.
It does say in tiny, tiny lettering: “Sample composed of 3 schoolboys”
Does it also have catgirls? Or catboys? If so maybe that’s why we haven’t heard from Meller in a while – he’s in his bunk.
Firefly ftw!