All those jobs going overseas? Blame it on the ladies. At least according to MRA blogger The Fifth Horseman – the guy behind The Misandry Bubble, a bizarre apocalyptic manifesto that took the manosphere by storm last year. In a heavily upvoted comment on The Spearhead, TFH explains:
Not many people realize that outsourcing happens mostly due to feminism.
Feminists impose all sorts of costs on businesses in the US, who are forced to employ women despite the low productivity of these female employees.
Since an office is not allowed to have too many men, the next best answer is to move the entire department to India or China, where Western feminists can no longer harass it.
Since Western women cost more than what Western men produce, outsourcing is inevitable, as a means to avoid feminism.
The blogger behind the Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology blog was impressed enough with this argument that he featured it in a post of his own, adding
Plenty of people have tried to run the numbers on the offshoring of jobs, but they can never figure out where the savings are supposed to be. Business would only offshore jobs if it made financial sense, and running the numbers indicates that it doesn’t make financial sense because any savings gets eaten up by the costs of offshoring. That is the case until you include the costs of feminism in the analysis. When someone runs the numbers on offshoring, they don’t include things like the costs of the false sexual harassment industry, affirmative action, and pure makework jobs for women in their analysis. As soon as feminism is included, offshoring makes perfect financial sense for business. …
If you want jobs to come back to the US (and elsewhere), then you have to eliminate feminism.
Yeah, that’s gotta be it.
” Or a day might come along when her feelings are hurt. “
Bullying and sexual harassment in the work place is still not ok. Men take up on this too, you know.
I’ve gotten a concussion at work, I’ve cracked a rib, and I’ve been punched.
And wtf does my sex blog have to do with not treating me with respect? Because I like some sex with some people I’m not allowed to complain that I don’t want all sex with all the people? Not that sexual harassment is much like sex anyway. It’s more like, “you keep a tennis blog about playing tennis with different people, therefore it’s okay to hit you over the head with a tennis racket.”
Have you heard of care-work and nursing? Ever tried working in a hospital or nursing home? Ever been a midwife or an ambulance worker like the women cited above?
Believe me, after a day (or night) working a job like that your feet, back, neck, arms AND legs will hurt, and sometimes your heart too. And which gender do you think make up the highest percentage of care-workers? Hint: It’s not men.
@Ullere: When the MRA claim is that ALL divorce/alimiony cases screw over men, a single example (I consider anecdotal data to be “my friends are X,” but what the heck) is sufficient to disprove the claim.
Statistical evidence can be good or bad, depending on the source. I see you dump a quote on us without a link to check it out (notice I supplied the link). AND you are the first to do so (first troll–NWO just shrieks at us and dumps irrelevant links, often contradicting his claims on us; Brandon, ditto, DKM, mostly ditto).
So, gimme a link and I’ll check it out.
And statistical evidence is just a bunch of individual cases.
And for your contextless datadump–it doesn’t support the idea that the main reason for sexual harassment is for lawyers to make big money. In short, citation needed.
All men have jobs that require back-breaking labor and all women have jobs that let them sit on couches all day with lumbar support pillows. There are no men who work at a desk and no women who stand on their feet all day or lug heavy things. If you see a man working at a desk in an office chair, editing manuscripts this is probably an optical illusion. If you see a woman whose been on her feet all day seeing patients, again, you’re hallucinating.
If a coworker masturbates with you in the enclosed space of a moving vehicle, this is not sexual harassment. If a man sees a woman on the street in an outfit he finds sexy, this is sexual harassment.
The more you know.
@Holly and Sorka
You know it’s only hard work if a man does it. Woman who works in a nursing home? Puh-lease, that’s nothing. Now, a man who tests video games for a living, that’s real work and serious business. He might get carpal tunnel!
“Now, a man who tests video games for a living, that’s real work and serious business.”
Actually, testing video games is not that fun. Your job is to try anything you can to break the game. That involves knowing the game inside and out. When you find where it breaks, you point it out in the code and send it back to the programmers. Programmers send it back, and you gotta do it all over again. Not fun.
@Joanna
Oh, I don’t doubt that it can be tedious mind-numbing work. I was thinking more in terms of physical activity, which seems to be how NWOslave is defining ‘hard work’ by his whole ‘everything might hurt!’ spiel.
Probably could have phrased it better.
@Amnesia
Ah, well in that case, it’s certainly cushier than what I do atm lol.
Basically, in order to maintain his worldview, NWOslave is just conveniently ignoring all the women who do hard physical labor as well as all the men who don’t.
So I’m a woman.
When I was working on the ambulance (which, by the way, means the above story doesn’t surprise me; I encountered a lot of disdain for being a girl but no sexual advances, but plenty of my female coworkers did), my partner and I were trying to navigate the stretcher around a narrow twisty hallway after dropping off a patient. The stretcher is made of steel and weighs around 90 pounds. I got to a point in the hallway where I was stuck between the stretcher and a handrail on the hallway, and was trying to readjust to get more room, when my partner pushed the stretcher forward and crushed my chest against the handrail. Crack.
I was young and competing with a lot of Tough Guys, and whether it was smart or not, I went right back to work and didn’t take any time off. The next couple weeks were pretty tender.
That’s what women’s work can be like.
So, I am female-assigned and a Child of Privilege ™.
I have had a job more-or-less continuously (except for freshman year of college) since I was fourteen and legally allowed to work.
My first job involved (among other tasks) handing out magazines for eight hours in the Florida heat. Have you ever been outside, in Florida, on your feet, in full pirate regalia, for eight hours, NWO? You can shower for an hour afterword and still be sweaty. Sometimes I got free RenFaire admission, though, which was pretty sweet.
My second job was as a movie reviewer. Not gonna lie, that was a hella cushy job.
My third job was as a cashier. I got fired relatively quickly on account of I am terrible. Nevertheless, eight hours on my feet, sometimes closing and then sleeping for six hours and opening in the morning. After shifts– especially double shifts– my feet hurt and my back hurt and my hands hurt.
My fourth job was as a freelance writer. This is relatively cushy, except for the aforementioned risk of carpal tunnel.
50% of my jobs were non-cushy by YOUR OWN DEFINITION, NWO. And I’m not only female, I also have relatively wealthy parents (I worked it out a while ago and we’re in the 10%, if not the 1%). I wonder what normal women are doing.
I am reminded of the phrase “Dance is harder than football. In football, no one asks you to smile.”
NWO, I’m a woman, too! I’m also a forestry worker. I get to operate saws, work around heavy machinery, and generally do physically demanding labor for a living. I’m usually quite tired, hungry, and dirty at the end of a day of work. It’s often production pay, so it’s not like the companies I work for are keeping me afloat at some male worker’s expense.
People in my line of work get hurt all the time, and many of those injured workers are women. I’ve been swarmed by wasps before, I bruised some ribs once, and I’ve developed a nagging RSI that will probably stay with me for the next fifty years or so. I know of one woman who was attacked by a grizzly bear while doing forestry work. It’s not like that sort of thing causes any pain, however.
Forget heavy manual labor. Brandon has previously enlightened us about the extreme pain and hardship men endure when the weather turns cold or when they have to drive in the rain. Because every man cuts off a pound of his own flesh every day (no anesthesia) just to make sure his woman goes through life in a bubble in which it is always 72 degrees and never rains.
In another exciting episode of NWOslave: A middle-aged milkman makes a shocking discovery about sexual harrassment being fake…but troves of 14 year-olds in bikinis are invading his house and taunting him. Can NWO protect himself from the preteen menace, and will he ever acheive his dream of overthrowing the feminazi order? Tune in next time…probably 9 hours from now.
She may go an entire lifetime without the slightest pain of any kind.
Sorry if anyone mentioned this already, but NWO, you are aware that this is physically impossible for any living thing with a functioning central nervous system, right?
NWOslave, have you ever been the recipient of unwanted sexual attention in the work place? I have, and I found that it opened my eyes considerably to the difficulties that it can cause. The reality of it did not conform to my preconceptions much.
The individual directing the attention towards me was not some villain from a 19th century operetta, but rather a rather sad and somewhat pitiable figure. It took some time to realize the ways in which the unwanted sexual attention was impacting my work output, and even once I came to the conclusion that there was a negative impact it took further time for me to realize that I should do something about it.
I think that, as men, we have a more difficult time realizing the impact that unwanted sexual attention can have, since we do not grow up with it as a common event in our lives the way women do. While I was never as dismissive as you are about the subject, I did not really understand it either.
It seems from your statements on this blog that you are unwilling to learn from women, so women explaining to you that sexual harassment is real is unlikely to help you to understand the reality, but perhaps I can get through to you. Having experienced it first hand I have come to the conclusion that sexual harassment is a real thing that can negatively effect the health, well being, and productivity of employees. I can say from my personal experience that people who experience it are not eager to report it, nor do they necessarily wish retribution on those that engage in it.
NWO probably doesn’t think that women have a central nervous thingy.
Sorry, Dracula. I meant to make it clear that you were quoting NWOslave and it failed miserably.
I wonder if NWO knows about this thing called “childbirth.”
Sure, not all women have kids, but not all men have jobs as risky and painful as dairy equipment installation, either.
I’m seconding Fatman’s statement, because it show not only sexual harrassment being real, but also it affecting everyone, not just women.
TRIGGER WARNING FOR SEXUAL ABUSE
I’ve been sexually harrassed, too, but while it hasn’t happened at work, it happened multiple times in my private life by my mom when I was young, and throughout my life until recently, where I had my genitalia touched in an comfortable way, to show how I was “growing”. They ranged from small touches to these disturbing moments where I was examined like some…specimen. I was in a position where I felt like I couldn’t do anything, so I just repressed my reactions and didn’t do anything.
While my experience is just part of a very mixed bag of a life I’ve had, I shared to show how real sexual harassment is, and it’s not just a workplace conspiracy cooked up by feminists.
Morchella: Oh right, this is NWOslave we’re talking about. He probably thinks women are evil ghosts or something.
And I wouldn’t worry, it looks clear enough to me.
Ah, but Holly, one time NWO said that pregnancy is just something small, like the common cold…or something. So, sorry ladies, but you have to stop writing about pregnsncy now, for it’s not big deal.
If NWO said that, it must be true!
NWO: So I just… what, imagined the MAJOR hip injury that left me with PERMANENT pain that I got at work? You’re even more deluded that I thought if you think that women are somehow wrapped in cotton and protected from work related stress and injuries.
I’ve worked ten hour shifts in a popular coffee shop during the holidays – on my feet pretty much the whole time, dealing with scalding water (to the point where my fingers got so calloused I stopped noticing the heat of the cups), hauling milk, working with the Convection Oven From Hell, and climbing shelves to do inventory. I’ve worked the line at assembly plants, I’ve worked the paint line at a plastics factory (which is a special kind of hell), I’ve done quality control for rubber gaskets. I’ve assembled fluorescent light fixtures (did you know that fluorescent bulbs have mercury in them? Do you know how many bulbs I generally had at my station? Enough that if they all broke, I would have been in serious danger).
Don’t you fucking DARE tell me the work I’ve done hasn’t been difficult. And DO NOT tell me that women don’t get injured on the job, because I will figure out how to reach through my computer screen and smack you upside the head for being an asshole.