Over on Reddit’s Men’s Rights subreddit, cheester warns all of us dudes about an especially insidious form of anti-male oppression: the racks of women’s magazines that lurk near the checkout counters of grocery stores everywhere!
can I get some feedback on womens magazines at the grocery checkout? Every issue states “new tricks he doesn’t know in bed” and shite like that. It’s obvious porn for the gals but why is it so accepted by everyone that it has carte blanche to be within a two foot reach as I pay for my food? If a magazine for men had on the cover: “20 Ways To Make Her Squirm Like A Fish”….there would be a national outrage.
Yeah, it’s not like Men’s magazines ever run anything like that.
Church groups and womens rights would say it demoralizes women and have the publication banned or put behind censored racks in seedy smoke shops.
Yeah. It’s not like this ever happens to women’s magazines.
But the womens mags are right there as a last shop item in the flourescent lit, sterilized, family atmosphere where every mother parades her toddlers and kids right past the 3 letter word in big black block letters;SEX on the cover of every flashy colored womens mag that comes out each month.
Not only is this oppression of men, it’s oppression of all toddlers who can read and know what the word “sex” means.
Also, feminists have never criticized women’s magazines in any way. “Ten Ways to Make Him Squirm” articles are the distilled essence of feminism! And most of them are written by the ghost of Andrea Dworkin.
NOTE: Does this even need a “sarcasm” tag?
DKM: WHAT HAPPENS TO WOMEN WHO REFUSE TO WORK IN ENTERTAINMENT HOUSES?
I don’t see how I can make my question to DKM any clearer. Of course, I’ve got plenty of other questions, like, why does it have to be gendered (why women can’t be entertained and men entertaining), what happens if you’re willing to be a geisha but very bad at it, why would his sexual fantasies be mandatory for the whole world… But the previous one seems to really be a pre-requisite.
DKM, watching you talk is a lot like listening cleverbot talking to Cleverbot. It really like of intern cohesion.
DKM said:
DKM also said:
*it really lacks
Maybe they aren’t actually women. Maybe they’re sexy robot ladies?
As we are doing petty fact checking, as a point of order, most species of praying mantis do not eat their mates. The more you know…
@sharculese, yeah, there certainly are conceptions of the “common law” where common law without a state/judiciary is rather fallacious, I was just pointing out that there is a pretty substantial history of usage of that term in a way that is not.
OH MAH GAWD DAT OWL.
Seriously, I think I got a contact high just from looking at how insanely blissed-out that frigging owl was. XD
what is natural law? is it related to the bullshit excuse “my biology made me do it!!!”
“As we are doing petty fact checking, as a point of order, most species of praying mantis do not eat their mates.”
I read once that this misconception came from bad experiments in which mantis were made to mate in a un-natural environment, meaning no food available. In normal conditions apparently, the male bring food to the female for the after-mating, and if he does not, she just eat whatever is available, meaning him.
But my source isn’t exactly scientific (it’s a SF novel), and I’m too lazy to search if it’s true or not.
@Darksidecat, I actually did know that about mantis… mantises? (I apparently do not know how to pluralize mantis, however.) And many of those insects who have torn their mating partner’s heads off in lab conditions will actually often fail to do so in the wild. The male in the lab has nowhere to go; in nature he will do his best to escape, and often succeeds. Doesn’t make for a great joke about evil shrikes though ;).
@Bagelsan: I wouldn’t dare call a miniature horse a pony! I would, however, call it extremely cute.
(Sort of) ninja’ed! Kyrie’s explanation is probably more accurate than mine because it’s almost 4:00 in the morning here and when my phone woke me up I somehow decided posting stuff on the Internet would be a good idea, which makes me doubt my current mental state.
I would like one tiny owl delivered to me immediately, please.
Your explanation is complementary to mine. It would make sense that being able to run would drastically increase one’s survival odds.
Meanwhile, here it’s lunchtime.
I would also like to know what Meller thinks is going to happen to the women who he attempts to “place” in the totally-not-brothels who refuse to go. For the billionth time, old man, answer the damn question. You are not weaseling out of this one.
Me too Cassandra.
DKM, WHAT HAPPENS TO WOMEN WHO REFUSE TO WORK IN ENTERTAINMENT HOUSES!!!????
Careful now, you’re gonna make him puke all over his typewriter!!
Also, what if a man has made plans for his daughter to marry, and she decides that she’d rather go work in the not-brothel? Does she have the right to do so, or can Dad stop her? If not, why not? After all, if it’s not such an bad place for women and really totally not harmful at all, why wouldn’t some women want to go work there even if they’re currently virgins?
And what about if I want to start a not-brothel for women with a male staff? I know some very handsome, charming men. Maybe they don’t want to go do a manly job and they’d rather lounge around playing musical intruments, making charming conversation, and sexually entertaining women. Am I allowed to do that, or are not-brothels for women banned? If so, on what grounds?
Meller: I have a partner. I’ve had one for years. I’ve had various partners, and girlfriends, and lovers, for most of my adult life. I am not worried about the future, because the past 30 years have told me your model of womankind is wrong. Perhaps this is because I am not a dolt who abuses his partners.
Nobinayamu: I’ve seen the new movie. Decent, not the best. Kermit is a little off, and the production numbers are a little weak, but it has it’s truly glorious moments.
Probably worth the effort.
zhinxy: I understand the problems of that phrase, but it’s the model Meller has, and (for better or worse) was pretty much the model for brothels in the not so distant past. Refusing a customer wasn’t an option.
I think there is a big difference between a legitimate transaction between equals, and the “Bird in a Gilded cage” model of Meller’s.
SaruGoku: On top of it all these women are supposed to be happy in this role.
His schtick is that women are only happy when they are truly subservient to a man. From his various writings the implication is she can only be ecstatically happy if she subordinates her every desire to making him happy.
It’s best if she didn’t have any say in this at all.
This is what he calls Liberating Women.
To add to DSC’s comment (in a way which is relevant to Meller’s dystopia). Mantids do tend to eat their mates when they are in a captive environment.
Could this have parallels to women who aren’t actually at liberty; because of an abusive/controlling partner tearing him to, “shreads”, in the aftermath of it becoming too unpleasant to bear? Something to think about.
Meanwhile, another comment thread is pushing up toward 30 pages… o_O
Meller’s “model” obviously lacks any diversity caused by the grand cussedness of nature casting women in any possible combination of character, intelligence, talents, and more superficially, shapes. The Meller ideal is mass-produced drones stamped from a cookie-cutter with an artificial perfection like his porcelain dolls; the sexy robot ladies can’t arrive quickly enough for Dollhouse Klepto-Maniac.
Oh no, such arrangements could never be countenanced by the smug, patronising, unctuous, condescending little glibertarian — he might puke up over his typewriter again! No rights for you inconvenient little minorities, and don’t worry your pretty little fluffy heads!!!
Puke and Fallacies!!!
Dunning-Kruger Man