Over on Reddit’s Men’s Rights subreddit, cheester warns all of us dudes about an especially insidious form of anti-male oppression: the racks of women’s magazines that lurk near the checkout counters of grocery stores everywhere!
can I get some feedback on womens magazines at the grocery checkout? Every issue states “new tricks he doesn’t know in bed” and shite like that. It’s obvious porn for the gals but why is it so accepted by everyone that it has carte blanche to be within a two foot reach as I pay for my food? If a magazine for men had on the cover: “20 Ways To Make Her Squirm Like A Fish”….there would be a national outrage.
Yeah, it’s not like Men’s magazines ever run anything like that.
Church groups and womens rights would say it demoralizes women and have the publication banned or put behind censored racks in seedy smoke shops.
Yeah. It’s not like this ever happens to women’s magazines.
But the womens mags are right there as a last shop item in the flourescent lit, sterilized, family atmosphere where every mother parades her toddlers and kids right past the 3 letter word in big black block letters;SEX on the cover of every flashy colored womens mag that comes out each month.
Not only is this oppression of men, it’s oppression of all toddlers who can read and know what the word “sex” means.
Also, feminists have never criticized women’s magazines in any way. “Ten Ways to Make Him Squirm” articles are the distilled essence of feminism! And most of them are written by the ghost of Andrea Dworkin.
NOTE: Does this even need a “sarcasm” tag?
Mellertoady,
Calling domestic violence the consequence of shrewishness is precisely blaming the victim. Do I need to quote the post where you capitalized CONSEQUENCE or do you still remember it?
And no one said anything about “woman good, man bad.” They said: violence not in self-defense is wrong, period, and that you are empirically wrong about the causes of domestic violence. Accusing others of “woman good, man bad” reasoning is simply projection based on your own misogynist mentality.
You are pathetic and contemptible.
Sincerely,
Moewicus
Fourthing
Because:
1. A man who is willing to hit you in anger is a bad person who doesn’t deserve you, even if he never actually hits you.
2. That never works. I’ve lived some of this myself with an abusive mother. You can’t be good enough. If an abuser says “do the dishes without being asked or I’ll hit you,” and their partner does the dishes? Next week they get hit because they grabbed a dish off the table without making sure the abuser was done. There is no such thing as satisfying an abuser because their real problem wasn’t your behavior to begin with.
Most “reading” on the subject is produced by ideologically driven feminists, who either are blinded by their feminist preconceptions, or, even worse, simply want one more issue to engage in their male bashing. If and when there are reasonably impartial and intelligent studies on this matter, I would be delighted to read about it, from sombody who had no axe (legal or political) to grind!
Chalk up DV as just one more subject that you (DKM) have demonstrated complete ignorance of.
dkm, im sorry that your reading didnt give you the answers you wanted to hear. this is nobody’s fault except your own.
Well, I just defeated Alduin. Now what do I do?
@David: I always find that amusing from both feminists and MRA’s. They want to point to studies that validate their own beliefs (so it also re-enforces their own thinking). But they cite and link to “sources” that are very clearly “on their side”.
A feminist pointing to a NOW study is just as bad as a MRA pointing to a fathers4justice study.
I don’t want to see biased studies, I want to see studies by people that don’t have an agenda to push.
Mellertoady, any Rhetoric 101 class will tell you that understanding and anticipating objections to your argument is important to the construction of a persuasive argument. As long as you understand that not doing so and making your argument to the opposition in complete ignorance about what the opposition says is simply public masturbation, go on ahead with that attitude.
I think you may get arrested for indecent exposure, though.
What would these studies you guys want even be on? “Percentage of DV victims who deserve it”?
@Holly: I don’t care what the study is on. I just want them to be fair, unbiased and accurate.
What “studies” did David link in this post?
oh look, its brandon, with the same tire platitudes about how both sides are equally as bad. brandon, i know you need your hand held through anything more complicated than an episode of south park, but some of us possess actual critical thinking skills, and you might want to leave the heavy lifting up to us.
?????
What is this I don’t even.
Here’s a study on parasites in mice: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-7998.1968.tb01665.x/abstract?systemMessage=Wiley+Online+Library+will+be+disrupted+3+Dec+from+10-12+GMT+for+monthly+maintenance
I have no reason to think it’s biased or inaccurate in anyway.
Therefore, feminism.
QED
@Holly: I don’t care what the study is on. I just want them to be fair, unbiased and accurate.
what’s a fair, unbiased, study. how would you judge this? do you know anything about statistics? methodology? anything except self-absorbed navel gazing. or is this another case of brandon looking down from his high perch and declaring that anybody he doesnt like must be guilty of something?
Says the man who pulls stuff out of his and then lies about it regularly. Yet he remains so above it all.
@Sharcules: Do you actually have a point to make or are you just going to ramble on and on about stupid shit?
seriously, brandon, we know youre dumb and lazy, why should anyone put any value on your judgments about the relative worth of subjects beyond your comprehension.
^out of his ass.
@Sharcules: Do you actually have a point to make or are you just going to ramble on and on about stupid shit?
yeah, youre clueless and out of your depth.
I dunno, Brandon, you gonna ramble on about your stupid shit and how you’re just so over it all and wouldn’t it be nice if we could all be you?
brandon id love to stick around and point out the flaws in your reasoning, but my supermodel girlfriend just showed up and she told me that your a total herb
The two ideas advanced in this post so far have been:
-Yeah, women’s magazines are pretty dumb, but there’s no grand conspiracy against men’s magazines.
-DKM’s “domestic violence wouldn’t happen if women were more doll-like” shtick is as wrong as it is disgusting.
I really don’t know what studies we’d need to back up either one of those.
@Sharcules: That’s funny. She told me you suck at fucking her. Weird huh?
You know, if those mice would just realize that a bible based relationship in which the male mouse was the head of the cage is better for everyone, the parasites wouldn’t infest them.
Damn mouse feminism is responsible for ALL mouse parasites.