Over on Reddit’s Men’s Rights subreddit, cheester warns all of us dudes about an especially insidious form of anti-male oppression: the racks of women’s magazines that lurk near the checkout counters of grocery stores everywhere!
can I get some feedback on womens magazines at the grocery checkout? Every issue states “new tricks he doesn’t know in bed” and shite like that. It’s obvious porn for the gals but why is it so accepted by everyone that it has carte blanche to be within a two foot reach as I pay for my food? If a magazine for men had on the cover: “20 Ways To Make Her Squirm Like A Fish”….there would be a national outrage.
Yeah, it’s not like Men’s magazines ever run anything like that.
Church groups and womens rights would say it demoralizes women and have the publication banned or put behind censored racks in seedy smoke shops.
Yeah. It’s not like this ever happens to women’s magazines.
But the womens mags are right there as a last shop item in the flourescent lit, sterilized, family atmosphere where every mother parades her toddlers and kids right past the 3 letter word in big black block letters;SEX on the cover of every flashy colored womens mag that comes out each month.
Not only is this oppression of men, it’s oppression of all toddlers who can read and know what the word “sex” means.
Also, feminists have never criticized women’s magazines in any way. “Ten Ways to Make Him Squirm” articles are the distilled essence of feminism! And most of them are written by the ghost of Andrea Dworkin.
NOTE: Does this even need a “sarcasm” tag?
OK, so ignoring the fact that Meller’s now doing a 180 with this “Garsh no, why would I ever advocate that a man would abuse his partner to keep her in line!”, this part:
I have no problems whatsoever if a person wants to be in a relationship where their only purpose is to strive to please their partner. But Meller, come on: It’s not an either-or thing. It’s not like women either have to subordinate their own desires, goals, and plans or they must face abuse from the men in their lives. That only happens when they’re in a relationship with an abusive asshole.
With those two ladies? Not likely.
“So why are women so violent towards men in particular?… Is it a shit test to see if a man is strong enough to retaliate, thus, worthy as a mate to carry her genetic makeup?”
I know whenever I see a guy I want to bonk, the first thing I do is go over and punch him in the shoulder as hard as I can. If he doesn’t have a bruise the next day we get to have sex!
Actually no, I don’t do this. I don’t even do this to my subs. WTF, dude?
Oh and I just noticed xD
http://web.archive.org/web/20081121015211/http://www.interlog.com/~sarah/themenace/Pages/coren.htm
NWO: “This ain’t middle earth and you aren’t an elvin princess, now grow up.”
Coren: Many of us indulged in fantasies at some time or another, usually when we were very young. Then we matured and put away childish things.
I TOLD you guys that Coren is the Canadian NWO except he gets paid for it XD
They sound so similar so often it’s frightening (and hilarious) xD
Except Coren’s smart enough to make money off of being a troll and NWO isn’t xD
Wait is NWO around RIGHT NOW? 😀
Cuz I am too! 😀
Yay!
Kk, NWO answer my questions now 🙂 (about how you believe I HAVE been treated, how do you believe I SHOULD be, and we’ll work from there to figure out how I would be treated in NWOrld :3 )
*jeopardy music plays*
the whole “grow up” thing I never understand tho xD Is being a man or a woman now some sort of childhood fantasy that we’re supposed to grow out of? xD Or more than likely, this is a “LOOK I DIDN’T GET EVERYTHING I WANT IN LIFE WHY IS IT THAT YOU CAN BE HAPPY!? UNFAIR UNFAIR!” jealousy thing xD
NWO wanted to grow up to be a Jedi, but he didn’t have the midi-chlorians for it xD And therefore EVERYBODY ELSE MUST BE UNHAPPY TOO!!! GROW UP OZY AND STOP HAVING FUN SEX THAT I CAN’T HAVE!! GROW UP AMI AND STOP BEING HAPPY AND NOT SUICIDAL!!! GROW UP MOLLY AND STOP BEING OKAY WITH BEING FAT!!! I HATE MYSELF AND EVERYBODY ELSE SHOULD TOO! XD
There’s somebody in here that needs to grow up and live their own life instead of being angry at others living theirs and it’s not Ozy, Molly or me XD
Hmmm… still no NWO… he must be writing a complicated and nuanced reply to me :3
DKM said It would have been much better if you had a kind of man who could have brought out the inner woman in you…
At first I thought that was surprisingly gender-egalitarian of you. For you to acknowledge (in…your own way) that we all have shades of what can be culturally defined as masculine and feminine inside of us. Then I remembered you are DKM.
Why do you presume all people whom identify as female (although odds are you never took trans women into account) somehow, without exception, have the exact same fluffy archetype pseudo-personality sleeping inside of them. Furthermore, why do you make this assumption that “all men” WANT that? One of the first things that attracted me (I’m male* BTW) to the woman I love is an indomitable force of will she seems to have deep down (it’s hard to explain). She is the LAST person whom would ever presume that her place is as a submissive helpmeet at a man’s side. You know what, I would not have it any other way.
*I identify as agendered (kind of…it’s complicated). However, I am biologically male and attracted to females. FWIW, I’m indifferent to pronouns, so don’t worry about that.
Bee-December 4,2011 @11:23pm
Bee, I NEVER advocated that men “abuse their women” to “keep them in line” or for any other purpose. I don’t even say that women should “subordinate” their desires to keep their man happy. I suggest repeatedly that happiness can and does come from both partners, with the male bringing out the best in the female, and vice versa.
How :”slavery” got into this is anybody’s guess! He is trying to cultivate, or allow her to cultivate, her inner woman, and she is using her body (and hopefully, her spirit) to provide him with ecstatic rapture! Talking about which sex is “dominant” here, if it makes any sense, is about as relevant as talking about which hand is “dominant’ when playing a piano concerto?
“I suggest repeatedly that happiness can and does come from both partners, with the male bringing out the best in the female, and vice versa.”
Unless one or both partners is queer and becomes even MORE QUEER in the relationship! Then it’s WRONG!
We aren’t. We’ve cited statistics on this so many times that I’m not going to tire myself out finding and sourcing them again just so you can either ignore them or yell “The statistics lie!” at them.
Nope! We have very strong minds! So strong that we aren’t taken in by two-bit conspiracy mongers selling us a ridiculous bill of goods about the “NWO” and the “Rothchilds” and “flouride” that we swallow whole even though we don’t understand it well enough to even know the correct names of the lies we’ve been told!
As opposed to your great sensitivity and generosity toward women?
This is just plain ridiculous, but an anecdote I told here a few days back: I had a guy hit me on the second date once. (I did not hit him first.) It was clearly a test, that’s for sure–a test to see if I’d put up with it. He tried to spin it as an ironic “it’s funny because I’d never really hit you!” joke and get me to laugh it off. I did not. There was no third date.
There went his superior genes, huh?
Oh, on the whole DV thing that NWO believes xD He does know that a lot of abusive relationships become abusive and violent AFTER people start dating or get married right? There aren’t a lot where on the first date, somebody hits somebody and that’s why they decide to become a couple >_>
So much for his mate selection theory of contradiction XD (srsly, do women WANT men to hit them or not? He seems to think both xD )
OF COURSE, if NWO has proof otherwise, I eagerly await it :3
Oh and NWO, you’re up for a bunch of “end of year” awards on the forum! 😀 You should check, you might rack up quite a few! 😀
@demios: Indomitable women = women that are basically men because most of their femininity is gone.
But you seem like the kind of guy that likes to submit to a woman. So it makes sense for you to be the woman in that relationship.
Brandon, that last comment I made was for DKM, not you! XD
Hmmmm… funny… I showed up and NWO suddenly vanishes… again…
how strange xD
Surely a coincidence XD
There’s no ICE BURN like telling an agender person they aren’t a real man!
pwnage
Why can’t it be both?
My preferred lifestyle includes but is not limited to; going to school, working to pay rent on my apartment, dancing, reading books, playing videogames, chillin with mah bros, and having sex with attractive men. I do all of these things now. Why would I trade that for a brothel?
I know you refer to me when I say that I’m sexually overactive, but I prefer making pancakes and cuddling with a close friend before we have sex to walking the streets.
Question: Do you really think the only thing “sexually overactive” women do is prostitute themselves?
That is not “protection”, that is “control”. This is also hilariously laughable when paired with:
Unless she wants to have sex for pleasure instead of money, be alone in a tavern, be sexy or provocative, or approach strangers.
Somebody let me know on gtalk or something when he’s back :3
“Question: Do you really think the only thing “sexually overactive” women do is prostitute themselves?”
DKM’s screeds about women and sex make so much more sense now!
Also I can’t believe I overlooked the use of the word “tavern”. I mean, some bars are still called that, but usually for historical reasons.
My preferred lifestyle includes but is not limited to; going to school, working to pay rent on my apartment, dancing, reading books, playing videogames, chillin with mah bros, and having sex with attractive men. I do all of these things now. Why would I trade that for a brothel?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_iKLevhkVaMo/S83eGsb_RrI/AAAAAAAABgU/rpf1oGQ15us/s1600/ark+addendum+-+Autobot+City.jpg
What if the brothel looked like that? xD
Ooh ooh Shora you reminded me! I would like to formally put forward DKM’s use of the word “tavern” as further evidence that he is either a) sending these messages from the distant past or b) a centuries-old vampire.
Wait, I just had an idea.
Meller, have you ever sent Ron Paul your ideas of a “libertarian” future (involving this-is-totally-not-slavery of women and “marriage or brothels” and etc etc xD)? :3
If not, can we? :3 I’ll be sure to give you credit for it if you’re worried about us stealing your credit :3
I think Mellertron is a millions year old Cybertronian robot…
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/graphics/news3/TF_ComicCon2009exclusive.jpg
Again, I think that Megatron’s slogan (“Peace through Tyranny”) fits Meller so much to a T xD
Meller: How :”slavery” got into this is anybody’s guess!
That would be the parts where you say that women belong to men. That they can leave their husbands if their fathers/brothers approve. That they must, “at all costs” stay in a relationship.
Those would be the slavery passages.
Then there is the comment that, he ought to have used other methods. Not, “he should never have abused you,” just that his means of obtaining compliance weren’t what you think were best practices.
You still think that physical abuse is second best, but when put to the test you don’t say, “My god that should never have happened; no matter what you did. You were wise to leave him.”
So you condone abuse, you just think being too overt in it is poor form.