Over on Reddit’s Men’s Rights subreddit, cheester warns all of us dudes about an especially insidious form of anti-male oppression: the racks of women’s magazines that lurk near the checkout counters of grocery stores everywhere!
can I get some feedback on womens magazines at the grocery checkout? Every issue states “new tricks he doesn’t know in bed” and shite like that. It’s obvious porn for the gals but why is it so accepted by everyone that it has carte blanche to be within a two foot reach as I pay for my food? If a magazine for men had on the cover: “20 Ways To Make Her Squirm Like A Fish”….there would be a national outrage.
Yeah, it’s not like Men’s magazines ever run anything like that.
Church groups and womens rights would say it demoralizes women and have the publication banned or put behind censored racks in seedy smoke shops.
Yeah. It’s not like this ever happens to women’s magazines.
But the womens mags are right there as a last shop item in the flourescent lit, sterilized, family atmosphere where every mother parades her toddlers and kids right past the 3 letter word in big black block letters;SEX on the cover of every flashy colored womens mag that comes out each month.
Not only is this oppression of men, it’s oppression of all toddlers who can read and know what the word “sex” means.
Also, feminists have never criticized women’s magazines in any way. “Ten Ways to Make Him Squirm” articles are the distilled essence of feminism! And most of them are written by the ghost of Andrea Dworkin.
NOTE: Does this even need a “sarcasm” tag?
that liberty requires good judgement and clear thinking on the part of all participants
Well Meller just excluded himself xD Uh oh… what does he do now? xD
Has nebody noticed btw, that when Zhinxy scolds Meller, he behaves? xD I wonder if even he realizes this… maybe it plays into some sort of dynamic he subconsciously enjoys. Neways, whenever she takes the schoolteacher tone with him he gets back in his seat xD
I’d rather starve free, Meller.
SOMEBODY has a CRU-USH! Meanwhile, he ignores me, just like NWO.
because throwing women who you perceive as sluts into sexual slavery is showing SUCH good judgement.
I think Meller is now bumped to first place on my list of internet douchebags. Sorry NWO, you’ve been moved to second place for now 🙁
Meller: I want a country at peace with the world! If it was good enough for Washington and Jefferson (“Peace and friendly commerce with all nations, entangling alliances with none…” It is good enough for me!
Given your tendency to keyboard logorrhoea I am not surprised that this little gem of yours slipped your mind I want a country at peace with the world! If it was good enough for Washington and Jefferson (“Peace and friendly commerce with all nations, entangling alliances with none…” It is good enough for me! WSJ.
I could go on, but I have made my point! Is Ron Paul a perfect libertarian? NO! Am I a perfect libertarian? NO! Are YOU?
I don’t claim to be a Libertarian. I certainly don’t espouse it as a form of gov’t. You, however do. The odd thing is you, the libertarian, want slavery to be the way of things… taking people who don’t adhere to your morality and forcing them into prostitution (if they are female. Male prostitutes servicing women make you queasy, and you won’t even talk about homosexual prostitutes).
I, the non-libertarian think that’s morally repugnant, and won’t countenance it. You get offended when I remind people that what you actually stand for is oppressing people.
December4, 2011 @8:18 pm
Ron Paul’s candidacy “enflames a crazy base”. Attagirl Zhinxi–President Obama needs all the help he can get in his re-election campaign!
And the base of support of Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, Michelle Bachmann, Gingrich, Goofy, Daffy, Sleepy et al is SOoooo reasonable, intelligent, and erudite!
Ron Paul’s supporters being crazy? Have YOU got the wrong election!
You show ’em all!
Meller: You support Paul: Q.E.D.
DKM’s “let’s just forget I said that and talk about important stuff like my political conspiracy theories” actually angers me more than his victim-blaming and sex-slave-planning did in the first place. We’re not going to play along and just talk to you like you didn’t just say women should all be sex slaves.
Holly: You noticed that he ignored that too? It’s not as if he doesn’t drop the subject when it’s supposed to be his politics either, go look at 100 %, he’s stopped there altogether.
What’s interesting is that elseweb he makes one comment and then hares off; here he stays to get put in his place. I begin to think he’s not here for the debate.
Begin?
But then again the debate isn’t really for him anyway, so all’s fair.
For fuck’s sake, DKM, her name is Zhinxy. Are you incapable of copy-paste?
Did anyone here ever espouse support of anyone in the Republican clown-car?
What the fucking fuck are you on about now? Yes, I have sex with people when I want to. I choose them for myself, because I don’t have any interest in being a sex worker. Yes, I work, Yes, I chose my job for myself. Yes, I got the education needed to perform said job. No, I didn’t take it away from any men (I work in a very narrow field that didn’t exist a decade ago.) I live in a house, all by myself! But it’s owner is my father! Who has no interest in who I sleep with! But he does care a lot whether or not I continue to run his business for him! He’s very happy that I do that (in his own words, he’d be screwed if AJ wasn’t there to do all of the crap he doesn’t want to – he recently retired and has never run a business before) and wants to continue the relationship business-wise for as long as possible, because he gets my services at a discount because I’m his daughter. Neither of his two sons are able to provide said services, though they both work for the business also. I’m much happier living on my own and working actually for my father than any of your insane fantasies.
I thought you were trying to be a libertarian, isn’t that supposed to be a “do what you will as an individual” sort of philosophy? How does coercing women into slavery fit into that?
amandajane: But women don’t know what they really want (to be kept by a man, and please him).
You, obviously are a “genetic mutant”, but it is to your credit that you are listening to your father and doing the work he has set out for you. If you have more than one job, you should quit the other one and find a husband.
That’s Meller’s take on it, you have the liberty to do what is best for you; as the men in your life decide it.
Okay… So what if it did? What if hitting your partner turned her into the perfect, quiet little kitchen and bed slave you’ve always wanted? Would it be okay?
My ex never even laid a hand on me and he still managed to make me so convinced of my own eternal guilt that I was terrified at the mere suggestion of an argument. I would start gibbering apologies and telling him how wonderful he was to try to mollify him, and when it never worked and he became angry I froze like a startled rabbit and didn’t argue back. I might have been your perfect mate. Who knows how much more he could have accomplished if he’d escalated to physical violence. So… was it okay? Since it worked and all?
Viscaria, December 4, 2011 @ 10:42pm
I just finished saying that is exactly what I DIDN’T want in a relationship! You saying that you were so terrified of him that you could hardly see straight! He didn’t treat you with gentleness, love and patience, he treated you with harshness and anger, bordering on brutality! That is not anything that I see as an improvement, nor is anything that I would endorse. Man and woman should appreciate each other, not oppress or exploit, still less brutalize, each other!
It would have been much better if you had a kind of man who could have brought out the inner woman in you, striving to please him out of joy and your own satisfaction; certainly never out of fear or guilt! He should have brought out the best in you, and you, the best in him,
Excellent suggestions in the direction of what I mean come from two websites:
1) http://www.fascinatingwomanhood.net
2) http://www.surrenderedwife.com
Both explain in much more detail what he was doing wrong, what you were probably doing wrong, and how you may be blessed with a much better relationship, or even marriage, in the future.
Have fun!
Ron Paul’s candidacy “enflames a crazy base”. Attagirl Zhinxi–President Obama needs all the help he can get in his re-election campaign!
_Yes yes, if libertarians have a sense of humor about ourselves, the demoblicans win. Night night, Meller. I will talk to you tomorrow.
You’re with us or you’re against us? XD
That’s what Meller has now? xD
DON’T MAKE JOKES OR OBAMA WINS!
xD
Ami – IT’S EVEN WORSE! I may I MAY get a ron paul supporter to LAY DOWN THE GUITAR TRACK! It’s crazy sabotage up in here!
It’s fascinating that your recommendation for a relationship with an abusive man is two websites that are almost entirely about women altering their behavior. It’s almost like you haven’t changed your mind at all about everything being women’s fault.
Mellertron, let’s get back to specifics :3 What do you believe will happen under a Ron Paul presidency (specifically, not general “THINGS WILL IMPPROOOOVVEEE!”) and what do you believe will happen if he doesn’t become president (for the sake of argument let’s say Obama wins re-election)?
Did you really just tell a woman who was in an abusive relationship that she should do more thinking about what she was doing wrong?
And you look at us with wide eyed incredulity when we tell you you’re victim blaming.
How does your theory that men hit their partners because their partners are “push their buttons” all the time?
Just stopped in to see what the ideology gang is up to. Looks to be about the same mindless ramblings as usual. I figure I’ll reply to any who responded to my comments from yesterday.
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@ozymandias42
“I’m not even going to be that kind of therapist. I’m going to be a sex therapist.”
I’m sure that’ll work out well! I can just picture some woman walking in complaining about her boyfriend doesn’t trust her and is trying to own her sexually as she’s dressed like a cheap hooker in cleavage county USA. An honest opinion would be, “put some clothes on, are you trolling for compliments or cock?” Not Ozy though, it’ll be evil mens controlling behavior.
Or better yet, someone like Ami walks in and winnys about not be respected. With just a mere quark of common sense the response should be, “This ain’t middle earth and you aren’t an elvin princess, now grow up.” But nooooooo. Ozy’ll be just sloppin over with leftist pop-psycho nonsense.
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“I would NEVER excuse an abuser. EVER.”
Too late on that count, princess. Everytime you take a womans word that she’s a victim of DV that’s what you do. She could be the initiator. Just because you lose a fight doesn’t mean you didn’t start it.
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@hellkell
“That’s crap, NWO, and you know it. The state doesn’t just roll in and take everything. Men can hire lawyers, yanno.”
Why would a man need a lawyer? Unless something of his,(children/property) is under threat of being taken away.
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@RocketFrog
“I would expect a man to act ethically because I am of the opinion that most human beings, regardless of gender, are able to make sensible choices, guided by reason and ethics. If you do not think men can do so, then you have a much lower opinion of men than I.”
Such a poor attempt at logic, and excusing womens poor behavior. Since you’re new here, these infantile techniques at shaming me into believing I’m misandric, simply don’t work. Perhaps in the hallowed halls of lefitist acedemia you might sway a weak-minded man to cower and beg forgiveness, but in the real world the big dogs bite back.
Lets have a look at the rest of your comment and we’ll correct your mistakes, shall we?
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“If a woman chooses to engage in psychological abuse of a man, as in the scenario you describe, you are correct that she is perpetrating an unethical action. She, also being a human being with the capacity for reason and ethics, has chosen to psychologically violate another human being. Doing something that one is fully aware is wrong may or may not be explainable, but it is not excusable.”
And since it isn’t excusable, there’s no reason to excuse her actions. I wonder if asp’s are jealous of the amount of poison that can flow from a womans mouth?
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“This does not grant her victim the right to do something wrong himself. Someone doing wrong to you may *explain* why you choose to do wrong in return, but it does not *excuse* it, and this has absolutely nothing to do with gender.”
It most definitely does grant her victim the right to retaliate. What kind of idiot would say you can’t defend yourself? If a precious woman cries sexual harrassment ya call Big Daddy to punish the bad man. Dontcha? Men stand up individually for themselves. Women run to the State and demand punishment.
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Here’s just a coupla studies showing women are at least, if not more violent than men.
http://csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
And here’s one by womensenews
http://www.womensenews.org/story/books/111203/women-are-aggressors-in-household-violence-too
Of course they titter and laugh it off, or they almost seem proud of the fact that women initiate more violence than men. And if were talking verbal abuse? Long live the queen!!!
Is that enough studies for you as proof positive that women are by far more physically violent? And definitely far more verbally, mentally and emotionally violent and abusive. Now since women bruise more easily than men, a woman can hit a man far harder than a man hits in return and it’ll look as if she is the victim. When in reality she is the aggressor. Didn’t erin pizzey open one of the first womens shelters, only to quit after realizing the women claiming victimhood were actually the abusers?
So why are women so violent towards men in particular? Are they easily indoctrinated by the MSM, indicating a weak state of mind? Are they callous and unfeeling towards men because men aren’t women, indicating a herd mentality? Is it a shit test to see if a man is strong enough to retaliate, thus, worthy as a mate to carry her genetic makeup?
Oh DKM. That’s not it at all. I was terrified of being such a horrible girlfriend that I made him justifiably angry, you nit. I was working so hard to be the perfect little woman – not exactly your flavour, since you and he have different tastes, but similar – to avoid “provoking” him.
Don’t worry though, I am in a good relationship with a good person now. But it might not fit your definition of “[bringing] out the inner woman in you” since we treat each other as equal partners and have loads of premarital sex. That’s what I get for hooking up with a renegade male!
“Now since women bruise more easily than men, a woman can hit a man far harder than a man hits in return and it’ll look as if she is the victim. When in reality she is the aggressor.”
Wouldn’t they BOTH be the aggressor in this case?
Or better yet, someone like Ami walks in and winnys about not be respected. With just a mere quark of common sense the response should be, “This ain’t middle earth and you aren’t an elvin princess, now grow up.” But nooooooo. Ozy’ll be just sloppin over with leftist pop-psycho nonsense.
xD
Actually my therapy is actually focused on my PTSD after being raped. >_> But thanks for your “concern” xD
So NWO, tell me how my therapists SHOULD treat me? 😀 And how you think they have. How do you believe psychs HAVE treated me in the past? :3
Also I AM an elven princess 😀
I find it funny that you whine so much about other ppl’s lives (which have no effect on yours whatsoever) when you’re the one who always wants special treatment, and wants EVERYBODY ELSE to live their lives just to make YOU comfortable XD You seem to be the one who wants to impose their fantasy world on other ppl o_O
FOR EXAMPLE, you seem totally obsessed w/ me and my life xD You bring it up even when I’m not around and it’s not the topic XD It’s “OMFG AMI IS EXISTING AND IT UPSETS ME!!! STOP HER STOP HER!” xD Ami this… and Ami that… xD I haven’t even talked to you in like a week and you’re still fretting about my existence xD
I really HAVE gotten into your head haven’t I? xD
WHAT CLOTHES?
Also, someone who treats you badly under any circumstances–is someone who treats you badly. If being human to them is contingent on your clothing, then wearing the “right” clothing doesn’t solve the real problem.
“Children/property.”
Says it all, really.