Apparently, or so I’ve learned from the manosphere, every single thing that women do is designed to torment men. Yesterday, we learned that women with jobs are leeching off of men just as much as women without jobs.
Further proof of female perfidy can be found in a recent post on the popular manosphere blog In Mala Fide with the provocative title Provocative Female Attire is an Assault Against Men. Guest poster Giovanni Dannato lays it out for anyone who needs convincing:
When a woman walks down a crowded sidewalk in revealing clothing, she is forcing herself on every man nearby.
The woman fully understands the powerful biological drives of men. She knows they cannot ignore her, not even if they want to.
Amazingly, the fact that a woman might show some cleavage does not automatically mean that she wants to have sex with every single man who sees her.
She has chosen to advertise herself to everyone passing by, but she is looking only for a few men. The wealthiest, the most famous, the most powerful men she can attract. …
There’s an old elementary school custom…when you bring something tasty to class, it’s understood that you should put it away unless you intend to share it with others. …
Likewise, a woman who puts her goodies blatantly on display is making false advertisements. Nobody supposes or expects that she could share herself with her entire audience—not even if she wanted to.
That’s right. Women are like gum. Or that pizza Spicoli had delivered to him in class in Fast Times at Ridgemont High that the mean Mr. Hand forced him to share with everyone. And if you gum-pizza-ladies are not willing to share yourself with every horny man (and, presumably, lesbian) who happens to notice you in your slut uniform, you are committing a terrible infraction.
Oh, sure, wearing a totally cute outfit is not specifically against the law, but, as Dannato reminds us,
looking for refuge in explicit written law is inherently disingenuous. …
[W]omen exposing themselves without intent to reciprocate the attention they attract is impolite and inconsiderate – an act of aggression in which they use the power of their sex as a weapon.
So how can men defend themselves against such evil feminine perfidy? By yelling “hey, whore! How much?” or “can I squeeze those titties?” or “Can you give me directions to Pussy Avenue?” Because street harassment – sorry, catcalling – is
a defense mechanism used by lower status men against women flaunting themselves publicly – for the benefit of millionaires only.
What else are men supposed to do?
[M]en are effectively strapped down, gagged, and muzzled while females can flaunt and taunt with impunity. For many men this pretty much sums up every single day of an entire lifetime at school and at work.
And women won’t even admit that when they put on a cute outfit and leave the house that they’re doing it to torment men.
Western Women don’t just abuse their incredible sexual power, they pathologically lie about their inability to understand the effects and implications of their actions. In fact, they seem to derive a sort of sociopathic pleasure from being able to sow unpleasantness and discord without consequence – all while playing innocent. They express their contempt and hatred for men even as they troll the populace for providers. Their enormous power comes without responsibility and they love it that way.
And now these evil women have come up with an even-more-dastardly-than-usual way to torment men “[i]n the most vengeful, derisive, and mocking way they know how.” Yep, you guessed it: The SlutWalks. Large groups of women tormenting men with sexy clothes in unison!
Apparently overwhelmed by contemplation of the sheer feminine evil of the SlutWalks, Giovanni ends his post abruptly at this point.
I admit I don’t have the patience to wade through the comments. If any of you do, please post any of your findings below.
EDITED TO ADD: Ironically, Ferdinand Bardamu (the guy behind In Mala Fide) aids and abets the evil sexy-woman assault on men with his own retro porn site Retrotic. NSFW, of course. And if Dannato’s post is to believed, not safe for straight men generally.
NOTE: This post contains sarcasm.
I thought you said there’s no such thing as harrassment?
Broseidon: There’s a world of difference between a well-executed compliment, e.g. “Nice outfit”, “You look stunning”, “Hey, you’re beautiful” (I personally really appreciate comments like that from people of any gender, though I realize not everyone would) and a comment that basically reduces a woman to her ass.
I’d appreciate the “nice ass” compliment from a partner or a (close) friend (because I’d feel comfortable around them and also know they saw me as a persona and not as the sum of my body parts. From a stranger on the street it could be anything from annoying to threatening, depending on the context.
I was once on my way from a dance class in my tracksuit bottoms when a car slowly rolled up next to me, a young man rolled down the windows and then decided to inform me that he “could see all of my bum and that this was disgraceful and how could I walk around like that for everyone to see?”. Tracksuit bottoms. I’m not making this up.
As for short skirts and cropped tops, I stopped wearing those as a teenager. Mainly because I got a lot of lewd call-outs from passer-bys, including one man who wanted me to come into his car, and another who masturbated in front of me.
Incidentally, if I find a man or woman on the street sexually attractive, I tend to keep it to myself. That doesn’t mean I don’t have an active libido, though.
Woman Logic 102
* Wear something tight and provocative that shows off your ass, because:
-You have a big ass and all non-potato-sack clothes are tight on it
-Your boyfriend likes it and you’re going to see him later
-You had no idea it showed that much and you’re completely embarrassed now but you don’t have a place to change
-It isn’t tight or provocative, but people can still tell you have an ass, and that’s enough apparently
-You want guys to notice you, but “notice” and “harass” are completely different actions
* Guy says “hey, nice ass”
-Or maybe that was “nice ass, ho” or maybe it was “wanna stuff my dick up that ass” or maybe it was “come over here and let me get a piece of that ass.”
-Seriously, on what planet is this an appropriate thing to say to a stranger no matter how nice/displayed their ass is? And you know damn well you’re not doing it with all innocent intention of making the woman happy about her body. Failure to get the message is willful at this point.
* Yell back “OMG, STOP HARASSING ME YOU CREEP”
-Guy probably doesn’t stop but it was worth a try.
-Sigh, try to get away before calls you a dyke bitch or tries something physical.
Pff, most of the time I don’t even yell anything back. I just keep my head down and walk past quickly. That doesn’t deter some people from calling you a “dyke” or, on one memorable occasion “a sticky cunt”, though.
Yeah, same here actually. It’s usually not worth engaging. Which just makes it more depressing when you go on the Internet and see men defending their precious right to give their judgements of stranger’s asses. There’s already basically no consequences for it, not even incredibly temporary social ones, but now you’re angry because we don’t like it? Jesus Christ!
That’s Biology 101, from the man who is unaware of the difference between an estrous cycle and a menstrual cycle.
And then he goes on to ‘splain how it can’t be helped, as it’s all in our biology, but he damns women for it, anyway.
And he’s still ignoring the very specific examples of real street harassment that were provided to him in an earlier thread. You just stay in that fantasyland of yours, tiny child.
Lol! I missed all the fun. But I can deduce that NWO thinks we all dress like this all the time:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kwICOTIuag0/S8R1T6JqrpI/AAAAAAAAAB0/XVLXkCp7DxU/s1600/sluts.jpg
Even in winter! Even in sub-zero temperatures!!!
The winter slut lol!
http://www.webpark.ru/uploads54/101229/Winter_girls_02.jpg
What’s more obvious is that the only women he actually sees and acknowledges are the ones that he’s personally attracted to, and he then claims that ALL women are that. The rest of the gender is invisible to him.
When I say I wear t-shirts and jeans every single day, I’m not exaggerating. And I hate the tiny sleeves on women’s tees so I actually wear men’s shirts. In the winter I wear men’s henleys because they’re more comfortable than sweaters, IMO.
So let’s revisit. I dress in men’s clothing and I STILL get harassed on the street.
Well it is a known fact that men dress the sluttiest. I just proved it there by saying it.
My question is: Where is the line? Who decides what’s too revealing, too slutty? I’ve seen lots of the young college girls showing off a little leg and cleavage in the summer. I don’t think they do this so much because they’re trying to torment men but because IT’S FUCKING HOT OUTSIDE.
I dress conservatively. On the rare occasion when a bit of cleavage is showing, I get way more attention than I want, so I remember to never wear that blouse/sweater again. That’s MY choice. But here’s the thing: a lot of men stare at me because of my face. I CAN’T COVER UP MY FACE.
Yes, Broseidon, the man (who is you, let’s not dance around that anymore) is totally just complimenting the woman on her nice figure. He’s not thinking about how he’d like to fuck her in that ass. He’s not viewing her as just an ass and not a human being.
I’ve seen neanderthals like you out on the street, often in groups of two or three, one time calling “Hey baby, come here!” at my friend as she walked by across the street from me near my college, and I was filled with such disgust that I was ashamed to be man, disgusted at how many men like you make this world such a shitty place to live in. Stop posting.
So, I’m curious: If everything is “nature” and “natural” in NWO’s world, how is it we have remarkable examples (and not-so-remarkable ones) of people actively contradicting “nature”?
Fire fighters and police officers throw themselves into danger for total strangers (so it isn’t even a “save my genes” thing). Men and women of various religious orders swearing (and keeping) celibacy. How suicides? If everything is governed by nature and passing on genes, people shouldn’t be committing suicide.
On the point of suicide, how is it that people are able to actually go through with particularly NASTY ways of dying? In 1996, a woman named Kathy Change self-immolated on the UPenn campus in Philly, right next to a large peace-symbol sculpture. She carefully tested on cuts of meat which accelerants would work the best. And, let us not forget one of the most dramatic examples of self-immolation (TW: guy on fire)–
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JRsw84CRRl8/TbgmLb1VoBI/AAAAAAAAChY/UlRuX9QJUK8/s1600/thich-quang-duc.jpg
One would think, even if they can subvert their “save my genes” instinct, that most people would not be able to stop the “avoid pain” instinct.
Yes, some of these examples are dramatic, but others are so common that we’ve probably stopped seeing many of them. Fire fighters may not always be the hero and save the child from the burning building, but they still put their hides on the line in the course of putting out “safe” or “easy” structure fires.
And there’s dozens of other examples I’m not listing. One could argue that medical workers are working against the best interests of their genetic competitiveness. I mean…save someone’s life to compete with THEIR genetic output? That makes no sense!
There is no effective line, as multiple posters such as Holly, Sorka, and blitzgal have given examples of harassment over entirely commonplace, innocuous clothing choices. Everyone will draw the line differently (even some women playing gender police).
@Joanna
“Lol! I missed all the fun. But I can deduce that NWO thinks we all dress like this all the time:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kwICOTIuag0/S8R1T6JqrpI/AAAAAAAAAB0/XVLXkCp7DxU/s1600/sluts.jpg
Even in winter! Even in sub-zero temperatures!!!”
A most excellent example of modern day womens complete lack of sexual control. This is the action you condone and support. They’ve simply devolved down to an animalistic state. Yet men are demanded to have complete sexual control at all times. The demand for women’s lack of sexual control is a demand for men’s lack of sexual control.
If a woman is being sexual merely by having a body, , then no, women cannot control themselves until we’ve perfected human uploading technology.
Eurosabra, was that a response to anything in this thread (or any thread anywhere on the internet, apparently) or do you have a Pavlovian reaction to seeing my handle now?
I think these guys give neanderthals a bad name, personally… (and we saps of Eurasian ancestry share a fair proportion of the neanderthal genome still)
And whoosh goes another point, billions of miles removed from what you delusionally call reality.
Being able to miss a point so astronomically should be considered performance art or something.
Asshole Logic 101:
Tell women to wear baggy, unflattering clothing so men won’t be tempted to harass them. Because they can’t control themselves apparently.
Someone had dubbed Owly the King of Neptune on another thread. It’s pretty hard to get more way out than Owly’s ravings without leaving the planetary system altogether — only dwarf planets and comets for company until you get to the next star.
I wonder if NWO can conceive of a woman who wears a short skirt but doesn’t want to have sex. Or (advanced topics now) a woman who wears a short skirt and wants to have sex with some men but not all men.
He seems to think that certain types of clothing (namely all of them…) are literally consent to sex with anyone who sees it.
I’d hate to see what he might do to an Old Navy mannequin.
You know what’s awesome? Being married to someone who also appreciates attractive women. I often point out attractive women to my wife on the street, and she’s just as likely as I to say “dang!”
Then we go home and have sex–or we would, if we didn’t have kids. Sigh!