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Women oppress men by “playing” at having a career

Silly woman! You probably don't even know how to work that computer.

Well, here’s a new twist. We all know, from reading the endless tirades on the subject scattered all over the manosphere, that women are evil, selfish and ungrateful creatures whose primary goal in life is to leech off of men and make them miserable.

In a recent post titled Playing Career Woman, manosphere blogger Dalrock takes on some of the most evil and selfish ladies of the whole lot of them: upper middle class ladies who insist on going to college and getting jobs, then later leave the workforce to raise their children.

You might think that these ladies would deserve some props from traditional-minded manosphere dudes for supporting themselves instead of leeching off of men during their twenties, then settling into a more traditional housewifely role once they have children.

Oh, but you don’t realize just how evil and disruptive and oppressive their phony careers are to the men of the world. After all, these aren’t women who need to work to support themselves. No, according to Dalrock, these are “women who use their education and career as a way to check off the box to prove their feminist credentials before settling down into an entirely traditional role.”

According to Escoffier, a commenter on Dalrock’s site whom he quotes with approval, in the good old pre-feminist days:

Women who pursued careers (apart from traditional female roles such as teaching … ) were considered at best sort of harmlessly odd … but we know that family life is superior and more important.

Then came feminism:

Now it’s “You MUST do this for own sake, not to do it is to not realize your potential.” …

The way the [upper middle class] has “solved” this problem is to send girls to college, let them launch their careers–whether in soggy girly stuff like PR or crunchy stuff like business and law–and then they marry late (~30), have kids a few years later and drop out of working at least until the kids are grown.

This answers a couple of needs, not least the need for two incomes to accumulate assets so that the couple can eventually buy into a UMC school district.

Oh, but these women aren’t really earning money because they need it to, you know, pay bills and shit:

[T]he real importance of this solution is to her psyche. Getting the education and career are a way of telegraphing “I am a complete person, not some drone like June Cleaver. I am just as smart and capable as any man. In my altruistic concern for my children, I choose not to use my talent in the marketplace but to devote myself to them.” In other words, she needs that education and early career to mark her as better than a mere housewife, even though she will eventually choose to become a housewife.

According to Dalrock, such women are far more evil than the feminist women who get jobs and stick with them. (Emphasis added.)

Men and women who work hard to support themselves understand that they are in it for the duration.  There is a determined realism to them. … These aren’t the women we are talking about.  The women Escoffier described see having a career as a badge of status to be collected on their way to their ultimate goal of stay at home housewife.  They aren’t really career women, they are playing career woman much the way that Marie Antoinette played peasant and Zoolander’s character played coal miner.

In the comments, someone calling himself Carnivore explains just how unfair this all is to the poor innocent working men of the world:

When men get a degree or go through a vocational program and then land a job, they’ve normally got 40+ years to contribute to increasing the wealth of society. Women “playing” career damage society:

1. They displace men for positions in college or vocational school.

2. Upon landing a job, they displace other men for the job position.

3. The increase in the labor pool drives down wages (supply & demand).

4. While in the labor pool, women are less effective and less productive than men.

5. Because they are in the labor pool and cannot compete with men, women support labor laws to enforce “equality” which burden businesses and can cause men to get fired due to some infringement or just to meet quotas.

6. When they leave the labor pool after becoming bored, there is now a hole than can be difficult to fill because the men who would normally fill it have been displaced for all the reasons above.

Carnivore places part of the blame on the feminism-infected parents who taught these women the wrong things:

Women do NOT know what they want. They have to be guided. Most parents have so bought into feminism that they don’t see any other way. It’s a riot – or sad – talking to parents when they go into all the detail about choosing a college, going on campus visits, making sure she gets into the best school, etc., etc. You would think these parents would spend their time and energy on prepping their daughters for the most important life decision – choosing a man for marriage, how to make a husband happy and how to raise healthy children.

The commenter called Ray takes it one step further:

i was in the workplaces during feminism 1.0, and it had nothing to do with fairness, equity, egalitarianism, or any other positive attribute

in fact, it was a slaughter, resulting in the vast disenfranchisement and destruction of millions of american men — there were dozens of ways men could be hassled, RIFd, and forced from employment, and they were (all to chants of Equality and Empowerment)

this resulted in the massive unemployment of the very men needed to create, invent, and revitalize the culture. and to be fathers to sons . …

no female should be employed, or educated, if it means a qualified male must be excluded

Women, stop leeching off men by paying your own way!

 

NOTE: This post contains SARCASM.

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Shora
13 years ago

Sorry, the above comment was supposed to have this:

So if he was a prick…then why would you have any expectations that he would help you? Seems like you helped cause your own grief by putting faith in a faith-less man.

in the blockquote.

Also, brandon, we’re not humorless. We just don’t think you’re funny.

Lauralot
Lauralot
13 years ago

You should have just come to the conclusion that you can’t depend on him and write him off.

Like little Billy would have to do for you?

Brandon
Brandon
13 years ago

@Shora: Funny…I think the same about you.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

It’s like feminists can’t read. One explanation before I go to bed…let’s hope you can comprehend it.

You aren’t at fault for having a shitty father. You aren’t at fault for having faith in him. You are at fault for constantly giving him that faith over and over again all the while he doesn’t follow through. You should have just come to the conclusion that you can’t depend on him and write him off. You would have probably saved yourself a lot of emotional wear and tear.

This was the second sentence in the quote to which you are referring.

We didn’t “put our faith in him,” the state put him down for paying a certain amount based on his income.

Perhaps you missed it?

Shora
13 years ago

You aren’t at fault for having a shitty father. You aren’t at fault for having faith in him. You are at fault for constantly giving him that faith over and over again all the while he doesn’t follow through. You should have just come to the conclusion that you can’t depend on him and write him off. You would have probably saved yourself a lot of emotional wear and tear.

If I say “If you don’t pay the money you are obligated to, I don’t get to go to school/fix my teeth/eat” Is not having faith in someone, it’s being dependent on an unreliable person to do what they are supposed to. if she had a choice I’m sure she would have chosen to not have to rely on someone unreliable to go to college.

Brandon
Brandon
13 years ago

@MHLauralot: Umm…no. Nice try at hurting me though. Its hard to hurt someone that doesn’t really get offended at anything.

Lauralot
Lauralot
13 years ago

Which is why you keep posting to tell me you’re not offended?

Shora
13 years ago

@Shora: Funny…I think the same about you.

Aaah the timeless kindergarden comeback. Yes, yes, Brandon, I’m glue and you’re rubber, very clever.

Polliwog
13 years ago

It’s totally OK to deny your children higher education to prove you’re not a walking wallet. That’s a mistake they won’t make again!

Well, duh! Besides, the college probably sent out information saying something totally offensive like, “You need to send your first tuition payments by August 12th.” I mean, really, the only reasonable response to that is to prevent your kids from getting an education, since you can’t let that college be rewarded for their terrible rudeness! It’s BrandonLogic(TM)!

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Its hard to hurt someone that doesn’t really get offended at anything.

Except for the phrase, “Could you go to the store? We need toilet paper.” That will send you into relationship-destroying RAAAAGE.

Brandon
Brandon
13 years ago

@Laura: Actually, I am doing it to see what new thing you will do to amuse me. Dance puppet dance!

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

Child’s mother: Brandon, you need to pick up Baby Brandon from daycare by 6pm.

Brandon: Fuck you, woman, I do what I like! *arrives at 7pm, has to pay extra $1 per minute late*

Child’s mother: Brandon, buy soccer cleats this weekend for Baby Brandon.

Brandon: Oh mah gawd, you controlling cunt! *buys child-sized tennis shoes, ballet slippers, ice skates, swim flippers, running shoes, Uggs, and stilettos instead*

Child’s mother: Brandon, look out! There’s a bear! Run!

Brandon: Bitch, respect mah authoritah! *is eaten by bears*

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

Except for the phrase, “Could you go to the store? We need toilet paper.” That will send you into relationship-destroying RAAAAGE.

no no, it is simply saying “you NEED to get toilet paper.”

Even though the rest of the planet gets that it is being asked and thinks nothing of it, to Brandon that is enough to send him into a complete snit because it is rude and demanding and he is a special snowflake that no one else can ever be mean to.

Lauralot
Lauralot
13 years ago

@Laura: Actually, I am doing it to see what new thing you will do to amuse me. Dance puppet dance!

There is not enough ROFLMAO in the world.

katz
13 years ago

Lauralot: Truly, there is not. “I wanted you to laugh at me! It’s all part of my plan!”

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

I came here to mock Brandon and ROFLMFAO, but I’m all out of ass.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

That bear deserves a medal.

Lauralot
Lauralot
13 years ago

That bear deserves a medal.

Ladies and gentleman, the best line in this thread.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

That bear deserves a medal.

That bear deserves some Pepto Bismol!

katz
13 years ago

No, we tried reverse psychology yesterday. So far he hasn’t cut his balls off, to the best of my knowledge.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

Here you go Mr. Bear It kind of looks like a medal.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

The really funny thing is a Pepto Bismol commercial came on at JUST THAT second as I wrote the last post.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

Is it me, or is Brandon acting out various stages in child development? He doesn’t seem to fully grasp that people outside of himself have feelings, he doesn’t realize that dragging his feet and sulking when his mom baby-momma asks him to do stuff is immature, he doesn’t understand that actions have consequences…

Brandon, watch closely: *holds up toy and shows it to him, then moves toy behind my back so he can’t see it* Does the toy still exist, Brandon?

Lauralot
Lauralot
13 years ago

What’s that test they give to figure out where you are in the stages of developing morals? Where there’s a scenario like your wife is dying but you’d have to steal medicine to save her or something similar?

It’d be really interesting to see what stage of that he’s in.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

1) Never marry; that’s stupid.
2) Deny dying woman medicine anyways; I’m not a wallet, bitch.
3) Go home, bang Ashley.
4) Profit!

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