Well, here’s a new twist. We all know, from reading the endless tirades on the subject scattered all over the manosphere, that women are evil, selfish and ungrateful creatures whose primary goal in life is to leech off of men and make them miserable.
In a recent post titled Playing Career Woman, manosphere blogger Dalrock takes on some of the most evil and selfish ladies of the whole lot of them: upper middle class ladies who insist on going to college and getting jobs, then later leave the workforce to raise their children.
You might think that these ladies would deserve some props from traditional-minded manosphere dudes for supporting themselves instead of leeching off of men during their twenties, then settling into a more traditional housewifely role once they have children.
Oh, but you don’t realize just how evil and disruptive and oppressive their phony careers are to the men of the world. After all, these aren’t women who need to work to support themselves. No, according to Dalrock, these are “women who use their education and career as a way to check off the box to prove their feminist credentials before settling down into an entirely traditional role.”
According to Escoffier, a commenter on Dalrock’s site whom he quotes with approval, in the good old pre-feminist days:
Women who pursued careers (apart from traditional female roles such as teaching … ) were considered at best sort of harmlessly odd … but we know that family life is superior and more important.
Then came feminism:
Now it’s “You MUST do this for own sake, not to do it is to not realize your potential.” …
The way the [upper middle class] has “solved” this problem is to send girls to college, let them launch their careers–whether in soggy girly stuff like PR or crunchy stuff like business and law–and then they marry late (~30), have kids a few years later and drop out of working at least until the kids are grown.
This answers a couple of needs, not least the need for two incomes to accumulate assets so that the couple can eventually buy into a UMC school district.
Oh, but these women aren’t really earning money because they need it to, you know, pay bills and shit:
[T]he real importance of this solution is to her psyche. Getting the education and career are a way of telegraphing “I am a complete person, not some drone like June Cleaver. I am just as smart and capable as any man. In my altruistic concern for my children, I choose not to use my talent in the marketplace but to devote myself to them.” In other words, she needs that education and early career to mark her as better than a mere housewife, even though she will eventually choose to become a housewife.
According to Dalrock, such women are far more evil than the feminist women who get jobs and stick with them. (Emphasis added.)
Men and women who work hard to support themselves understand that they are in it for the duration. There is a determined realism to them. … These aren’t the women we are talking about. The women Escoffier described see having a career as a badge of status to be collected on their way to their ultimate goal of stay at home housewife. They aren’t really career women, they are playing career woman much the way that Marie Antoinette played peasant and Zoolander’s character played coal miner.
In the comments, someone calling himself Carnivore explains just how unfair this all is to the poor innocent working men of the world:
When men get a degree or go through a vocational program and then land a job, they’ve normally got 40+ years to contribute to increasing the wealth of society. Women “playing” career damage society:
1. They displace men for positions in college or vocational school.
2. Upon landing a job, they displace other men for the job position.
3. The increase in the labor pool drives down wages (supply & demand).
4. While in the labor pool, women are less effective and less productive than men.
5. Because they are in the labor pool and cannot compete with men, women support labor laws to enforce “equality” which burden businesses and can cause men to get fired due to some infringement or just to meet quotas.
6. When they leave the labor pool after becoming bored, there is now a hole than can be difficult to fill because the men who would normally fill it have been displaced for all the reasons above.
Carnivore places part of the blame on the feminism-infected parents who taught these women the wrong things:
Women do NOT know what they want. They have to be guided. Most parents have so bought into feminism that they don’t see any other way. It’s a riot – or sad – talking to parents when they go into all the detail about choosing a college, going on campus visits, making sure she gets into the best school, etc., etc. You would think these parents would spend their time and energy on prepping their daughters for the most important life decision – choosing a man for marriage, how to make a husband happy and how to raise healthy children.
The commenter called Ray takes it one step further:
i was in the workplaces during feminism 1.0, and it had nothing to do with fairness, equity, egalitarianism, or any other positive attribute
in fact, it was a slaughter, resulting in the vast disenfranchisement and destruction of millions of american men — there were dozens of ways men could be hassled, RIFd, and forced from employment, and they were (all to chants of Equality and Empowerment)
this resulted in the massive unemployment of the very men needed to create, invent, and revitalize the culture. and to be fathers to sons . …
no female should be employed, or educated, if it means a qualified male must be excluded
Women, stop leeching off men by paying your own way!
NOTE: This post contains SARCASM.
@Katz: I have never laid an unwanted hand on a woman…ever. But you can think whatever you want.
I am seriously tempted to ask this of a family court judge I know…I am sure the answer would be illuminating.
Brandon’s entire life is like a chapter out of some unpublished Foucault treatise, control, punishment etc etc etc.
We get it Brandon. Everything in Brandonland is better. Good for you.
@Elizabeth: If the child was receiving child support, was living with the mother and she was having a hard time caring for the child, I would say that is grounds to have a custody hearing
And yet, the original comment was not the mother is always saying “you NEED to get Billy XYZ” it was a one time thing.
A one time thing where your response was to completely refuse at all to do the thing regardless of how childish it made you look. I suppose it is progress to see that you actually would not outright refuse to do it if it involved your kid.
Fucking hell. That video is in response to this:
“I don’t really care about a lot of things.”
Brandon: See yea, here’s what I was talking about.
“I’m not constantly demanding, because that doesn’t get me what I want”
vs
“I’m not constantly demanding, because then I would be an asshole.”
But, like, if there is ever any point when you have a list of choices, and one of those choices is to be an asshole with little or no personal consequence, you just go straight to being an asshole. Even if not being an asshole might help someone out, even if there is another equally good choice that doesn’t involve being an asshole, it seems from what you say here that all things being equal, you will choose to be an asshole.
And for the life of my I just cannot figure out why.
@Elizabeth: Of course it is sweetie. I would just say fuck off and hang up on the first sign of rudeness. It’s not like I would try and correct it by saying “I would appreciate if you asked me instead of ordered me”.
I even mentioned it earlier in the thread when man-hating Lauralot wrote some fake dialog between me and my hypothetical child’s mother.
But no, you are right…I would just throw a tantrum instead of politely asking her not to do something.
So I get to be Man-Hating Lauralot from now on?
Awesome! Do you want to be Baby-Eating Brandon, Elderly-Abusing Brandon, or Kidnapping-Women Brandon?
Response to:
“Billy needs school supplies by tomorrow.”
= “I would be as passive-aggressive as I could be towards her if she was ordering me around. She would find out real quick that being a cunt to me isn’t going to get her what she wants.”
(Seriously, these things aren’t even on the same planet. I’m sure that in real life, I’d find this pathological, but from the safe distance of an entire Internet, it’s just funny.)
Response to
“Hey everyone! Brandon eats babies, pushes old people in wheelchairs over into wet cement, and kidnaps college girls and keeps them locked up in his basement! I don’t have to prove it; everyone would just bitch and moan over the evidence anyway. Besides, it’s my opinion and that’s my right.”
= “Nice…go ahead and think that all you want. I could care less. Also it is wrong.”
IT WAS SARCASM.
Response to the thought that at some point, some woman might accuse you of rape.
=
VIDEOTAPE ALL THE SEX ACTS
Brandon, you couldn’t be funnier if you tried.
@Shora: You can’t figure out why because your assumption is inaccurate.
@Lauralot: All three will work just fine because all three are 1) incorrect and 2) absurd on its face.
Baby-Eating Brandon has the most attractive acronym.
Still, I’m not sure David will go for it; he doesn’t abide by the Do Unto Trolls as they would Do Unto You philosophy (and, really, neither do I).
@Voip: I know it was sarcasm, you just can’t see that I was being dismissive and indifferent about it.
Why do I see this as being:
Brandon: Judge, she demanded I obtain pens for the child. Obviously she is an unfit mother. Therefore I should get full custody and she should have to pay me child support.
Judge: Any response from the defendant?
Brandon’s Grateful to be rid of him Ex: Your honor, I asked him to get pens because it was his weekend with our son and Billy needed some pens to complete a school project. I was merely reminding the father of his duty to ensure that our child had the necessary tools to complete it. Brandon refused to get the pens until right before I picked our son and I had to request the teacher to give our son an extension. When I asked Brandon why he refused, he said it was because I was rude to him. Not sure what he is talking about.
Brandon: you said I NEED to buy our son pens-that was being incredibly rude!
Judge: You mean like you just were sir? Petition denied.
By the fifteenth time you pulled this stunt, she would be fully prepared to explain in detail to the court how stupid you are being. And since most family court judges get to know the parties really well, she probably would not need to even say that much.
I assure you, based on the answers you give here, it is not inaccurate. Maybe you’re really a chill, empathetic guy and just play an asshole on the internet?
Or do you really think you don’t present yourself as an asshole around here?
Those people loooove fathers like him.
FUN FACT: I almost didn’t go to college because my child support had my non-custodial dad down as contributing X amount of money and we had no idea until the last minute that he actually would. Meanwhile, my sister’s orthodonture was delayed because he dragged his ass on paying for it. I know exactly what you are.
Oh, it’s not something I intend to keep up, I just think it’s hilarious how much he doesn’t get the joke.
That and he keeps insisting we can do what we want as he doesn’t care, when every post here demonstrates otherwise.
**SORRY: My financial aid, not “my child support.”
@Katz: I eat baby….cows. So baby cow eating brandon is actually accurate. Feel free to use that one…I am giving it a GPLv2 license.
I called it correctly-“I totally meant that even though I have spent response after response saying the exact opposite.”
You said it once as part of a dialogue someone else made-every other time it was “ignore the request regardless of how petulant it shows me to be” or say “fuck off” and run away.
@Voip: It’s nice that you see your father as a walking wallet…only there to buy you and your sister shit.
This sure is a lot of effort for someone who gets the joke:
All three will work just fine because all three are 1) incorrect and 2) absurd on its face.
Sweetie, nobody who gets a joke feels the need to state ALSO IT IS WRONG, BEEP BOOP WHAT IS THIS THING CALLED LANGUAGE.