Consider the plight of the poor, horny Man Going His Own Way. He may have convinced himself that women are icky monsters out to highjack his sperm and steal his money. He may have convinced himself we live in a femi-fascist gynocracy out to destroy men and civilization generally. Yet his disobedient penis can’t stop thinking about sex with these evil, filthy women.
And so he turns to his fellow MGTOWers to ask for help: what can I do, my brethren, to stop popping so many boners? Ed1974, a newbie on MGTOWforums.com, puts it this way in a plaintive recent post:
[M]ore than almost anything I want to be woman-free and contentment to live a woman-free life. For more or less all of my adult life I’ve played in to society’s demands that I have to have a woman, and preferably a pretty woman, in my life. I’ve done a lot of Internet dating and every friggin time I get involved with a woman I regret it. Either I just want to get some ass and the woman wants a lot more than that and makes a mess out of my life when I leave, or I end up spending way more money than I ever wanted to spend just to have her grace my life with her presence, or something else that fucks up my life. The bottom line is I sincerely want to live a life without the desire to have a woman in my life.
So Ed is taking steps to quell his desire:
1. I downloaded a firewall blocking all dating sites.
2. I’m going to read as many books on misandry that I can.
3. I’m going to take myself out of situations where I can get in trouble, such as bars.
4. I’m going to fill free time that I would normally spend out with some woman with something productive.
I also want to remember the bad times where I’ve had women who I’ve tried to get out of my life end up stalking me for months on end. And to be perfectly honest, I want to remember the time I got the clap from some skank. I also want to remember that I should be thankful that I’m not a baby daddy and I’ve never had any false rape charges against me.
Alas, but poor pretty Eddie is afraid that this won’t be enough, and begs the assembled MGTOWers for “other steps I should take.”
Site admin Nacho Vidal suggests he go another way entirely:
My advice would be to scrap the ‘steps’ you’ve taken and take your wanking up a notch! Also, have you looked into hiring a whore or two once a month?
Others jump in to endorse the masturbation-and-prostitute strategy, and encourage him to cultivate his hatred of women by reading from the ample selection of stories on the site about evil, depraved, disgusting women. As fairi5fair puts it:
I go to college and still get the biochemical reactions that play into the mate-spawn-die script when I see a 20 year old with a candy apple ass and perky tits, but my growing understanding of women in general helps to make it less urgent and more negligible everyday.
A few others have more novel advice. Our friend womanhater suggests a trip to the mall:
Sit in the food court, and spend a good three hours there. Leisurely sip on some coffee, and simply watch.
See all the soulless men being dragged around by cupcake holding her bags. You’ll see the total absence of hope in the eyes of men in this trap. You’ll see his brain calculating the immense debt being run up, and yet he knows he’s fucked.
Pay attention to the stupid whores in training aged 15 or so, and simply listen the absolute shit running out of their mouth. Watch their behavior and internalize that every twat you see aged 25 was doing the exact same shit a decade ago.
Every time I start to feel my ghosting resolve start to slip, I go to the mall for a few hours. Clears my fucking head every time.
NewWorldMan suggests a sort of mind-over-boner strategy:
Sounds like BS, I know, but telling myself (actually saying the sentence in my head at the moment of attraction): “I control my dick, my dick doesn’t control me — actually works for me.
Frederick326 suggests an anatomy lesson:
Read up on vaginas. They’re fucking disgusting.
And fairi5fair also links to the (somewhat NSFW) video below. I’m not sure what exactly it’s supposed to accomplish other than to remind us that Japan leads the world in baffling entertainment product:
Also, I’m not dumb in any situation, which means I’m smarter than you Ozymandias.
Not really, he can be good looking and a woman would want him possibly at first.
Then she talks to him and goes “oh my goodness gracious, look at the time, I have to meet my dear old grandmother at the airport before I leave forever. Nice to meet you.”
MRAL, you’ve made it abundantly clear that in social situations, especially those involving women, you’re dumb as bricks.
MRAL, in which situations are you the smartest, would you say?
Wrong thread! I think he’s too embarrased to talk about his erectile situation, so he’s avoiding this one.
ry because no woman would ever want his ugly creepy ass anyway, amirite guys???
See, and by creepy, we mean “says things like this about women and their hideous meat holes”, not as you MRA’s like to think “Is Not Brad Pitt Bieber Gates PUA or whatever alpha means today”
How can we be so shamey???
Cassandrasays – Ooh, awesome, I’ll go looking for where else he is…
Actually, wait, right thread! I’m confused now. Lack of sleep plus trying to transcribe an hour long interview, only half of which is in English, it making me loopy.
You should try some trazodone and nyquil! It makes me so eloquent and findey of threadz!
Not really, he can be good looking and a woman would want him possibly at first.
But have we not been taught by the wisdom of feminist blogs that women can spot creepiness a mile away and guys who are alone deserve to be that way? AKA the argument that’s always pulled out and given a good dusting-off when any guy complains he can’t get a date? Make up your minds.
Seriously, MRAL, genuinely curious where do you really feel you shine?
Actually I think Broseidon and friends know very well that creepy means “please stop wanking through your pants while staring at me on the train while I’m trying to read a book, random businessman” rather than “ew, you’re not hot enough for me”. They’re angry precisely because they know that they are guilty of behavior that women find creepy, but they aren’t going to stop just because some bitches tell them to because dammit why should they? Etc, ad nauseum.
See, and by creepy, we mean “says things like this about women and their hideous meat holes”, not as you MRA’s like to think “Is Not Brad Pitt Bieber Gates PUA or whatever alpha means today”
Only problem with that is, 99% of guys in fact do not talk that way and are still labeled “creepy” just because they aren’t attractive enough or you’re in a bad mood that day.
PS: You should try to make your statement as ridiculous as the one you’re aping, if you want this to work XD
“They’re angry precisely because they know that they are guilty of behavior that women find creepy, but they aren’t going to stop just because some bitches tell them to because dammit why should they? Etc, ad nauseum.”
And if they can bring in the shy guy who just has problem’s socially as their sheild, well, damn right they’re gonna bring in that guy!!!
So tell us, broseidon, what standards are we allowed to have for creepiness?
You think that 99% of guys are labelled as creepy, in a general sense? Wow, you really need a better group of friends if that’s been your experience.
>>why is NWO nicknamed Owly?
That sounds a lot like O RLY?, that owl macro that I guess comes to mind immediately whenever NWOSlave spouts one of his trademark ‘facts’.
Maybe that’s why? Not sure.
Cassandra: Ah yes, the old “if you defend yourself, you must be feeling guilty!” nugget. By your logic, I could call you anything and take your denial as proof that I’m right.
with you so far.
Oh HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO
Seriously, be less blazingly wrong.
<blockquote.Also, I’m not dumb in any situation, which means I’m smarter than you Ozymandias.
Everything you’ve ever said about social science has been dumb as dumb can be, off the very top of my head.
Did you ever read the Shroedinger’s Rapist thread comments? I can’t remember if it was that one or the other thread that spawned it, but things really got out of control when someone got out of control when someone got upset on behalf of her friend who lots of women find creepy, a friend who WALKS AROUND CARRYING A FUCKING SWORD ALL THE TIME.
Not really the lack of Brad Pitt-ness that was the issue in that case, but once again it became all about how it’s mean for women not to welcome men with open arms when the men in question are acting in strange and disconcering ways.
“You think that 99% of guys are labelled as creepy, in a general sense? Wow, you really need a better group of friends if that’s been your experience.”
No, I was talking about 99% of the guys who are labeled as creepy. If you’re going to twist and misinterpret my words, at least make it more subtle.
“Only problem with that is, 99% of guys in fact do not talk that way and are still labeled “creepy” just because they aren’t attractive enough or you’re in a bad mood that day.”
Evidence please? If all you mean is that any given guy might somehow, even innocently, somehow seem at SOME POINT “creepy” to SOME woman, (and any woman might seem creepy to some man, I mean, I’ve unintentionally scared some people in my life, it happens – Also, I’m ACTUALLY autistic and have trouble with social cues and facial expressions, I’ve creeped dudes out and so I understand the innocent PROBABLY HAS ASPERGERS dude you bring into these discussions) at SOME point in her life… Because there’s billions of women, and a dude might actually creep one out… So, is that what you mean by “labeled creepy?” – Cause that is not all women or even more than one woman labeling people with a SCARLET L for loser, or c for creep, or b for beta, or whatever.
Regardless, what are legitimate standards of creepiness, in your view, and why in the name of heaven does the OP not meet them?
So what do you mean by labelling… If you mean, some woman somewhere might have thought they were creepy, then what do we do about that, also? What are legitimate standards for women to have?
Why are you so convinced that women think 99% of men are creepy, Broseidon? That’s not reality, so was it hyperbole or do you actually think that, and if so, why, and based on what evidence?
CassandraSays: You are willfully misinterpreting what I said and arguing against positions I never held. Therefore I see no point in further responding to you.
zhinxy: “So tell us, broseidon, what standards are we allowed to have for creepiness?”
You can have whatever standards you want, I won’t tell you how to behave. I’ll just point it out and laugh, something I believe you and the gang here have quite an appreciation for.