Consider the plight of the poor, horny Man Going His Own Way. He may have convinced himself that women are icky monsters out to highjack his sperm and steal his money. He may have convinced himself we live in a femi-fascist gynocracy out to destroy men and civilization generally. Yet his disobedient penis can’t stop thinking about sex with these evil, filthy women.
And so he turns to his fellow MGTOWers to ask for help: what can I do, my brethren, to stop popping so many boners? Ed1974, a newbie on MGTOWforums.com, puts it this way in a plaintive recent post:
[M]ore than almost anything I want to be woman-free and contentment to live a woman-free life. For more or less all of my adult life I’ve played in to society’s demands that I have to have a woman, and preferably a pretty woman, in my life. I’ve done a lot of Internet dating and every friggin time I get involved with a woman I regret it. Either I just want to get some ass and the woman wants a lot more than that and makes a mess out of my life when I leave, or I end up spending way more money than I ever wanted to spend just to have her grace my life with her presence, or something else that fucks up my life. The bottom line is I sincerely want to live a life without the desire to have a woman in my life.
So Ed is taking steps to quell his desire:
1. I downloaded a firewall blocking all dating sites.
2. I’m going to read as many books on misandry that I can.
3. I’m going to take myself out of situations where I can get in trouble, such as bars.
4. I’m going to fill free time that I would normally spend out with some woman with something productive.
I also want to remember the bad times where I’ve had women who I’ve tried to get out of my life end up stalking me for months on end. And to be perfectly honest, I want to remember the time I got the clap from some skank. I also want to remember that I should be thankful that I’m not a baby daddy and I’ve never had any false rape charges against me.
Alas, but poor pretty Eddie is afraid that this won’t be enough, and begs the assembled MGTOWers for “other steps I should take.”
Site admin Nacho Vidal suggests he go another way entirely:
My advice would be to scrap the ‘steps’ you’ve taken and take your wanking up a notch! Also, have you looked into hiring a whore or two once a month?
Others jump in to endorse the masturbation-and-prostitute strategy, and encourage him to cultivate his hatred of women by reading from the ample selection of stories on the site about evil, depraved, disgusting women. As fairi5fair puts it:
I go to college and still get the biochemical reactions that play into the mate-spawn-die script when I see a 20 year old with a candy apple ass and perky tits, but my growing understanding of women in general helps to make it less urgent and more negligible everyday.
A few others have more novel advice. Our friend womanhater suggests a trip to the mall:
Sit in the food court, and spend a good three hours there. Leisurely sip on some coffee, and simply watch.
See all the soulless men being dragged around by cupcake holding her bags. You’ll see the total absence of hope in the eyes of men in this trap. You’ll see his brain calculating the immense debt being run up, and yet he knows he’s fucked.
Pay attention to the stupid whores in training aged 15 or so, and simply listen the absolute shit running out of their mouth. Watch their behavior and internalize that every twat you see aged 25 was doing the exact same shit a decade ago.
Every time I start to feel my ghosting resolve start to slip, I go to the mall for a few hours. Clears my fucking head every time.
NewWorldMan suggests a sort of mind-over-boner strategy:
Sounds like BS, I know, but telling myself (actually saying the sentence in my head at the moment of attraction): “I control my dick, my dick doesn’t control me — actually works for me.
Frederick326 suggests an anatomy lesson:
Read up on vaginas. They’re fucking disgusting.
And fairi5fair also links to the (somewhat NSFW) video below. I’m not sure what exactly it’s supposed to accomplish other than to remind us that Japan leads the world in baffling entertainment product:
@David Futrelle
Sorry to not actually flounce when I said I would but one last comment if you’ll permit me.
If you calculate the number of mass murderers who are gay as oppossed to their percentage within the population, doesn’t that make bi/gays about 15x as likely to be a mass murderer?
Also, if you calculate the number of rapes of boys/men, including prison rapes, doesn’t that make bi/gays 15x as likely to be a rapist? Just so we’re clear on who is bi/gay, the definining act of bi/gay is man having sex with a boy/man.
“Also, if you calculate the number of rapes of boys/men, including prison rapes, doesn’t that make bi/gays 15x as likely to be a rapist? Just so we’re clear on who is bi/gay, the definining act of bi/gay is man having sex with a boy/man.”
So you’ve now decided that, when calculating the total number of rapes, rapes of women and girls just don’t count at all?
I mean, it’s not like we didn’t know that about you, but it’s kind of you to finally state it so clearly so that we have it there for future reference.
Perfectly straight men rape other men. It’s an act of domination and to humiliate the victim.
This part isn’t verifiable. A man by the name of Ludwig Tiene was a kapo at Auschwitz, but the source of the story is from the writings of Yehel Dinur, who wrote under the pseudonym Ka-Tzetnik. Although he was a Holocaust survivor, his books contain heavy fictional elements, and I wouldn’t trust them without independent verification.
Yeah, NWOslave, go ahead and tell prison rapists they’re gay.
YEHIEL, sorry. I accidentally the spelling.
Arks: Well, that’s a depressing way to think about it.
I prefer to think of everyone as beautiful. Just talking about the people on this site whose pics I’ve seen (and, uh, remember): Holly has a dreadfully cute smile. Ami has awesome hair. Spear has the coolest sense of style. Nobby looks adorably like an ancient Greek satyr. Pecunium has nice hands. Et cetera, et cetera. Even the ones I’m less than attracted to… with a little practice, you can see something beautiful about everyone. The world I live in is one full of gorgeous people, and that makes me so happy.
I pity you that you feel like you have to live in a world of ugliness.
I don’t know. What raw numbers are you using?
That’s not something you can just drop down as a rhetorical question. All you’ve stated is “if there are more gay murderers, there are more gay murderers.” Well, yes, but how many gay murderers or rapists are there?
“I can name five or six really gross ones” is not the answer.
Wait a minute NWO, I thought you were a Holocaust denier! How is it that when you finally admit that persecution of Jews took place, that the Nazis were bad, it’s in the context of accepting the most half-baked pseudo-history to hit the stacks since Spear of Destiny? You’re an iron-ribbed skeptic, until the story’s about those evil gays, and then any lurid atrocity tale will do. What do you think the Holocaust looked like? The Nazis are just minding their business, until GAYS OUT OF NOWHERE?
das vi danya
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This is apropos of very little, but I used to think that “say la vee” was the single worst homophonic butchery of a common non-English phrase ever written. It has now been bumped.
I’m honestly impressed, NWO.
Maybe that’s how they say it in your trailer park, but where I come from, that’s not how you say it. For fuck’s sake, if you are using a word in a language you don’t know (which you don’t, obviously), at least give yourself the trouble to look it up, okay? It’s one word, ignoramus, and you misspelled it to boot. Or are you claiming that “teaching controversy” would involve Russian professors teach gibberish as “Russian”?
That doesn’t pass what we edumacated folk call “academic rigor”. That’s because (1) all civilizations, societies, nation-stations, etc. collapse at some point; (2) since there are always gays in the population, you can always blame societal collapse on them; and (3) since “accepted gayness as the norm” is a very vague concept, you can always claim that a given society collapsed because it didn’t oppress gay people enough.
Also, how do you define a civilization as “collapsed”? Are you referring to a political collapse or cultural extinction? I ask because, you see, Ancient Greece is widely seen as the cradle of Western Civilization, with such a profound influence that it’s fair to say we are still living in the Greek Age. And yet, ancient Greek societies accepted gayness as normal (within certain parameters), some even encouraged it. And Greece didn’t even exist as a nation-state until the 19th century. Neither or these things stopped Greece from shaping the West as we know it today.
Also:
“When we have meat before us and such eatables we receive the impression,
that this is the dead body of a fish, and this is the dead body of
a bird or of a pig; and again, that this Falernian is only a little
grape juice, and this purple robe some sheep’s wool dyed with the
blood of a shell-fish: such then are these impressions, and they reach
the things themselves and penetrate them, and so we see what kind
of things they are. Just in the same way ought we to act all through
life, and where there are things which appear most worthy of our approbation,
we ought to lay them bare and look at their worthlessness and strip
them of all the words by which they are exalted.”
The MGTOW ought to study their classics.
@VoiP
“This part isn’t verifiable. A man by the name of Ludwig Tiene was a kapo at Auschwitz, but the source of the story is from the writings of Yehel Dinur, who wrote under the pseudonym Ka-Tzetnik. Although he was a Holocaust survivor, his books contain heavy fictional elements, and I wouldn’t trust them without independent verification.”
I just can’t resist one last comment, you guys are making this too damned easy. If I had said this about a man who had done this to girls, everyone of you would’ve screamed, “rape apologist.” Everyone of you would’ve screamed how I condone the rape and murder of young girls.
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@Joanna
“Perfectly straight men rape other men. It’s an act of domination and to humiliate the victim.”
The only way to be gay is to have sex with the same gender. The very act of a man having sex with a man/boy is the defining act of being gay. The only way to actually be gay is for a man to have sex with a man/boy. You simply can’t be gay otherwise. It might be an act of domination and humiliation. Which makes it a gay act of domination and humiliation. They could’ve just as easily beat the crap out of someone and made them eat dog poop as an act of domination and humiliation. The fact that a man doesn’t do that but instead has rapes them makes it a gay act. A man just can’t have sex with a man/boy without being gay.
If the only way to be gay was to have sex with men and boys, I was asexual until I was seventeen. Huh, all that frantic masturbation and porn-writing would have made me think differently…
Oh, so when I was attracted to a girl, and we dated, and cuddled and kissed and shared a bed, but never actually had sex (this was in high school), that was really straight of us?
But I’ve had sex with a couple girls by now so I guess I’m a lesbian now. I’ll let my boyfriend know.
” A man just can’t have sex with a man/boy without being gay.”
Yes they can.
NWO, you really need to write more precisely. If we were to belive the illogical drivel that you just posted, straight women would be gay, since they’ve had sex with men, and lesbians would be straight, if they have not had sex with men.
NWO, have you heard of the concept of “situational sexuality”?
Er, this might come across as saying that I hope NWOslave gets raped, which I don’t. I phrased very poorly. Sorry about that.
It’s just that I doubt many prison rapists identify as gay in any way, shape or form. They happen to rape men because men are all they have access to. They’re really a perfect example of how rape is about power and not the attractiveness of the victim.
“They’re really a perfect example of how rape is about power and not the attractiveness of the victim.”
When you read the PUA dribble it’s all about power, putting a bitch in her place etc, rather than actually being attracted to a woman.
*busily adds all this to the Book of Larnin’*
Perhaps the story of how the word sodomite came to be.
Voila:
The Bible: it’s full of surprises when you actually read it!
Spear: Man, I didn’t even see the “I hope you get raped” interpretation. I just thought the rapists would laugh at him.
I may or may not have too much faith in human nature…
“I just thought the rapists would laugh at him.”
I thought they’d knock his teeth out =o
Thinking the sin of Sodom was homosexuality requires you to believe that God was totally down with angel rape if it happenef to be heterosexual.
Why does no one ever get called a Gomorrhite?