Consider the plight of the poor, horny Man Going His Own Way. He may have convinced himself that women are icky monsters out to highjack his sperm and steal his money. He may have convinced himself we live in a femi-fascist gynocracy out to destroy men and civilization generally. Yet his disobedient penis can’t stop thinking about sex with these evil, filthy women.
And so he turns to his fellow MGTOWers to ask for help: what can I do, my brethren, to stop popping so many boners? Ed1974, a newbie on MGTOWforums.com, puts it this way in a plaintive recent post:
[M]ore than almost anything I want to be woman-free and contentment to live a woman-free life. For more or less all of my adult life I’ve played in to society’s demands that I have to have a woman, and preferably a pretty woman, in my life. I’ve done a lot of Internet dating and every friggin time I get involved with a woman I regret it. Either I just want to get some ass and the woman wants a lot more than that and makes a mess out of my life when I leave, or I end up spending way more money than I ever wanted to spend just to have her grace my life with her presence, or something else that fucks up my life. The bottom line is I sincerely want to live a life without the desire to have a woman in my life.
So Ed is taking steps to quell his desire:
1. I downloaded a firewall blocking all dating sites.
2. I’m going to read as many books on misandry that I can.
3. I’m going to take myself out of situations where I can get in trouble, such as bars.
4. I’m going to fill free time that I would normally spend out with some woman with something productive.
I also want to remember the bad times where I’ve had women who I’ve tried to get out of my life end up stalking me for months on end. And to be perfectly honest, I want to remember the time I got the clap from some skank. I also want to remember that I should be thankful that I’m not a baby daddy and I’ve never had any false rape charges against me.
Alas, but poor pretty Eddie is afraid that this won’t be enough, and begs the assembled MGTOWers for “other steps I should take.”
Site admin Nacho Vidal suggests he go another way entirely:
My advice would be to scrap the ‘steps’ you’ve taken and take your wanking up a notch! Also, have you looked into hiring a whore or two once a month?
Others jump in to endorse the masturbation-and-prostitute strategy, and encourage him to cultivate his hatred of women by reading from the ample selection of stories on the site about evil, depraved, disgusting women. As fairi5fair puts it:
I go to college and still get the biochemical reactions that play into the mate-spawn-die script when I see a 20 year old with a candy apple ass and perky tits, but my growing understanding of women in general helps to make it less urgent and more negligible everyday.
A few others have more novel advice. Our friend womanhater suggests a trip to the mall:
Sit in the food court, and spend a good three hours there. Leisurely sip on some coffee, and simply watch.
See all the soulless men being dragged around by cupcake holding her bags. You’ll see the total absence of hope in the eyes of men in this trap. You’ll see his brain calculating the immense debt being run up, and yet he knows he’s fucked.
Pay attention to the stupid whores in training aged 15 or so, and simply listen the absolute shit running out of their mouth. Watch their behavior and internalize that every twat you see aged 25 was doing the exact same shit a decade ago.
Every time I start to feel my ghosting resolve start to slip, I go to the mall for a few hours. Clears my fucking head every time.
NewWorldMan suggests a sort of mind-over-boner strategy:
Sounds like BS, I know, but telling myself (actually saying the sentence in my head at the moment of attraction): “I control my dick, my dick doesn’t control me — actually works for me.
Frederick326 suggests an anatomy lesson:
Read up on vaginas. They’re fucking disgusting.
And fairi5fair also links to the (somewhat NSFW) video below. I’m not sure what exactly it’s supposed to accomplish other than to remind us that Japan leads the world in baffling entertainment product:
@Holly Pervocracy
“I’ve had people grope me, threaten me, threaten to give away my personal information online, make me watch porn when I didn’t want or expect it, yell at me that they wanted a blowjob, send unsolicited emails about doing painful and disgusting things to my body, talk in front of me about how much they’d pay to have sex with me, and corner me while talking about my body. If none of these things are harassment… well, I do have to admit, there were no bananas.”
And I have your internet word as proof. Do you accept my word at face value? Why should accept your’s?
I told you people long ago the end result of women devolving down to an animalistic state. Right now, in the western world women have no sexual control. Contrary to the popular belief amongst feminists, men and women are different.
I can’t believe we have to go over this again. A womans sexuality is her body. Nothing else. Any talent a woman has, money, power, ability by a woman is never seen by men as sexually desirable, ever. Never in any culture anywhere in the world no matter how secluded has a woman ever been considered sexually desirable due to anything but her body, ever. So it can’t be culture, socialization. It is biology.
When women are taught sexual control growing up, that icky monogomy and loyalty thingy, a culture can flourish. Men and women are above their base animal state and all is good. In the modern world women have no sexual control. None. Zero, Zip. Nadda. Like an animal, women now prance about sexually exciting all men within eyeshot. Men are demanded to remain above this sexual animal state, because out in the animal kingdom, male animals take the female animal that purposely excite them. A very small portion of men succumb to their animal nature and rape. All women succumb to their animal nature and try to sexually excite men. Eventually, since all women have succumbed to their animal nature, so will all men. History, history, history. It happens every time.
Polliwog – Huh, you can’t wear a belt? I honestly never considered that. I have a kind of manly shape myself–big belly, flat ass–so I need to wear a belt with most pants. But I never realized that some people actually can’t make a belt fit.
Too bad, really. I get to be not-slutty and you don’t. That’s sure a, uh, real animalistic thing you’re doing to men there, having a different-shaped torso from me!
Oh, poor put upon NWO. Where’s your proof for this claim?
And can strippers and prostitutes in NWOland be harassed ever?
NWO, did the 1911 Britannica say this? or did you take a biology course? How did you get this info?
Any talent a woman has, money, power, ability by a woman is never seen by men as sexually desirable, ever. Never in any culture anywhere in the world no matter how secluded has a woman ever been considered sexually desirable due to anything but her body, ever.
Oh, NWO. Never change.
I mean, do please change, because you’re delusional and I can’t imagine you’re happy, but I have to admit, your current delusional, miserable, ranting self does a good job of cracking me up when you say things like this.
oh, look. NWO opened his pie hole. Nonsense came out. Kinda getting boring, isn’t it?
@Polliwog
“Lots of men actually don’t, in point of fact. Are they slutty? Heck, I’ve personally witnessed my boyfriend (who finds belts uncomfortable) bending over far enough that his jeans slip down and expose the top of his buttocks – is he a dirty slut who’s trying to inflame women with lust, or just a dude that didn’t notice that his shirt had ridden up a bit?”
I’ve thought we went over this biology thingy. A womans body is her sexuality. See my above post. A mans sexuality are his actions. Which is why women go after athletes, men in power, men of talent, musicians, artists and such. None of these men need to be exceptionally handsome or anything. The power/talent is a mans sexuality. Women write love letters and marriage proposals by the thousands to convicted murderers. His actions have proved he is powerful enough to ensure good genetics.
“Nothing else. Any talent a woman has, money, power, ability by a woman is never seen by men as sexually desirable, ever.”
I believe this to be incorrect. Actually a whole lot of women are certainly seen as desirable for intelligence and personality. Leading to the amusing British term ‘thinking man’s crumpet’.
More nonsense, NWO acting like he knows anything about women’s sexuality. If he weren’t so fucking hateful, it might be cute, As it is, he’s just another boring asshat troll.
I really wanna slap whoever popularized this evo-psych bullshit. Look what happens when a maroon like NWO getsaholt of it.
You asked. Sadly, I neglected to hire a camera crew to follow me at all times, and legal action was pretty hopeless, so there’s no proof. But would I lie? Like I said, legal action was hopeless.
Sexual control consists of your wardrobe choices??? I thought it was control of who you made sexual advances to and how you responded to sexual advances! Silly Holly!
Okay, but my boyfriend gets powerful turned on by seeing me do nerdy things. Just sayin’. Also, are you aware that “sexuality” does not mean “sex appeal”? You really need a dictionary.
I’m dressed entirely in men’s clothing right now. Shirt and pants. (and boxers!) The only lady-thing I’m wearing is an extremely unflattering sports bra. Am I still out of sexual control?
I’m kinda loving how NWO’s idea of “sexuality” and “sexual control” come down entirely to clothing. I have a closet full of sexualities! I think I’ll wear the red sexual control today! I put some brown hiking-boot-style sexualities on my feet and a black sexual control around my waist, don’t tell the Fashion Police!
Are women considered desirable by men if she has power, talent, wealth?
Are men considered desirable by women if he has power, talent, wealth?
Why do you always see male rock stars, athletes, men of power and wealthy men of average or below average looks with beautiful women? Why do never see the reverse? Biology.
Sometimes.
Sometimes.
You ever hear of a “cougar,” NWO? A lot of their appeal is their life experience and often wealth.
Allow me to blow your mind:
http://pics.livejournal.com/scotbord/pic/0001ahse/s640x480
(Dame Judi Dench and boyfriend)
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2005/news/050822/dmoore.jpg
(Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher)
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/news/060807/oprah_winfrey.jpg
(Oprah Winfrey and boyfriend)
@Holly Pervocracy
Meh, when suddenly a whole lot of men start not controlling their animalistic nature to have sex with what sexually entices them, don’t say I didn’t warn ya.
Personally I find it quite interesting in a detached sort of way. It’s actually funny watching women devolve down to an animal-like state and scream about men being animals.
Polliwog – Huh, you can’t wear a belt? I honestly never considered that. I have a kind of manly shape myself–big belly, flat ass–so I need to wear a belt with most pants. But I never realized that some people actually can’t make a belt fit.
Not well, nope. I mean, if I had the money to get all my pants professionally tailored, I could wear baggier things and not look silly, but as it is, even wearing stretchy pants, I pretty much always have to wear relatively long, baggy tops to cover up the large amount of excess fabric at the waistband.
It’s annoying. I’m cis and largely comfortable with being a woman in a very female-looking body (think Christina Hendricks, but shorter and a lot less staggeringly gorgeous), but god knows there are times when I really, really want to trade and be a dude for a while, and “when shopping for pants” ranks high on the list of those times. (Probably beaten out only by “when shopping for bras.” I hate shopping for bras.)
Too bad, really. I get to be not-slutty and you don’t. That’s sure a, uh, real animalistic thing you’re doing to men there, having a different-shaped torso from me!
I know, right? I’m such a filthy animal with my “having big boobs and hips.” I do it on purpose just to torment men! The back pain and lack of clothes that actually fit me are just perks, really.
NWO, you’re the one making men into animals by implying they can’t control the whole harassing and rape thing you dolt. Don’t try and drag the rest of the male population down the drain with you.
To clarify here, by “animal-like state,” you mean not wearing a belt?
Fair enough. I suppose animals don’t wear belts.
But I tell you what, NWO: I have seen the light. I don’t want to be an animal any more! I want to be a human being! Tell me how!
Is it just the belt thing? I already did that. So we’re good. (I’m also dressed, as I mentioned, entirely in men’s clothes except for a very unsexy bra. So I’m having trouble seeing how I’m any more animal than a guy with my proportions.)
It’s ridiculous anyway. I’ve been playing along here, but you should know this is all ridiculous. Men are able to make choices, you misandrist. They can choose to learn what harms and distresses others and decide not to do those things. If they don’t do that, they aren’t animals; they’re evil human beings.
@Holly Pervocracy
Ahhh the cougar myth. No one finds them sexy, young men just fuck them because the hot young girls are in an animal frenzy fucking the rock stars, athletes, men of talent, power and wealth. Most of those cougars are the used cast-offs of the rock stars, athletes, men of talent, power and wealth.
NWO, I have to go to class, but you should know that you’ve long since past the point where you’re describing events on Earth.
(To be fair, how would you know? As far as I can tell you don’t have friends, don’t watch TV, don’t read the news, and don’t go outside much, so I’m not sure where you would have learned about Earth. But you should recognize that limitation.)
What you’re describing is so far outside human experience that it’s not even hurtful anymore. You could replace “man” and “woman” with anything. “Wugs are animalistic beasts who will get their comeuppance from zugs! Zugs are only attracted to wugs for their bodies!” Makes as much sense as anything.
Can someone add a script that inserts [citation needed] after every post by NWO? It’d save a whole lot of time.
@Holly Pervocracy
“Men are able to make choices, you misandrist.”
Nice try Holly dearest. Women are also able to make choices. They’ve chosen, en masse, to act like animals in heat. Oddly enough, as history has shown, when women decide it’s their right to act like animals in heat, they’re eventually treated like animals in heat.
Devolving into animals? What, are we on Pleasure Island now?
I want to act not like an animal in heat! Tell me HOW!
@Joanna
They’re ACTION FIGURES!!!!
@DKM, you know all this sexbot talk is all fun and games until they seduce your top scientist, get the codes to the mainframe and nuke the planet. Next thing you know you’re being chased all over the galaxy trusting in some woo mumbo-jumbo and trying to make your scientist put his pants on and figure out where the 13th colony is!
@ NWA
Sam Tredwell is that you? I’m sorry, we’ve discontinued the Cherry 2000 line of fembots.