Consider the plight of the poor, horny Man Going His Own Way. He may have convinced himself that women are icky monsters out to highjack his sperm and steal his money. He may have convinced himself we live in a femi-fascist gynocracy out to destroy men and civilization generally. Yet his disobedient penis can’t stop thinking about sex with these evil, filthy women.
And so he turns to his fellow MGTOWers to ask for help: what can I do, my brethren, to stop popping so many boners? Ed1974, a newbie on MGTOWforums.com, puts it this way in a plaintive recent post:
[M]ore than almost anything I want to be woman-free and contentment to live a woman-free life. For more or less all of my adult life I’ve played in to society’s demands that I have to have a woman, and preferably a pretty woman, in my life. I’ve done a lot of Internet dating and every friggin time I get involved with a woman I regret it. Either I just want to get some ass and the woman wants a lot more than that and makes a mess out of my life when I leave, or I end up spending way more money than I ever wanted to spend just to have her grace my life with her presence, or something else that fucks up my life. The bottom line is I sincerely want to live a life without the desire to have a woman in my life.
So Ed is taking steps to quell his desire:
1. I downloaded a firewall blocking all dating sites.
2. I’m going to read as many books on misandry that I can.
3. I’m going to take myself out of situations where I can get in trouble, such as bars.
4. I’m going to fill free time that I would normally spend out with some woman with something productive.
I also want to remember the bad times where I’ve had women who I’ve tried to get out of my life end up stalking me for months on end. And to be perfectly honest, I want to remember the time I got the clap from some skank. I also want to remember that I should be thankful that I’m not a baby daddy and I’ve never had any false rape charges against me.
Alas, but poor pretty Eddie is afraid that this won’t be enough, and begs the assembled MGTOWers for “other steps I should take.”
Site admin Nacho Vidal suggests he go another way entirely:
My advice would be to scrap the ‘steps’ you’ve taken and take your wanking up a notch! Also, have you looked into hiring a whore or two once a month?
Others jump in to endorse the masturbation-and-prostitute strategy, and encourage him to cultivate his hatred of women by reading from the ample selection of stories on the site about evil, depraved, disgusting women. As fairi5fair puts it:
I go to college and still get the biochemical reactions that play into the mate-spawn-die script when I see a 20 year old with a candy apple ass and perky tits, but my growing understanding of women in general helps to make it less urgent and more negligible everyday.
A few others have more novel advice. Our friend womanhater suggests a trip to the mall:
Sit in the food court, and spend a good three hours there. Leisurely sip on some coffee, and simply watch.
See all the soulless men being dragged around by cupcake holding her bags. You’ll see the total absence of hope in the eyes of men in this trap. You’ll see his brain calculating the immense debt being run up, and yet he knows he’s fucked.
Pay attention to the stupid whores in training aged 15 or so, and simply listen the absolute shit running out of their mouth. Watch their behavior and internalize that every twat you see aged 25 was doing the exact same shit a decade ago.
Every time I start to feel my ghosting resolve start to slip, I go to the mall for a few hours. Clears my fucking head every time.
NewWorldMan suggests a sort of mind-over-boner strategy:
Sounds like BS, I know, but telling myself (actually saying the sentence in my head at the moment of attraction): “I control my dick, my dick doesn’t control me — actually works for me.
Frederick326 suggests an anatomy lesson:
Read up on vaginas. They’re fucking disgusting.
And fairi5fair also links to the (somewhat NSFW) video below. I’m not sure what exactly it’s supposed to accomplish other than to remind us that Japan leads the world in baffling entertainment product:
@Holly Pervocracy
“Do you still think women should be slaves to men?” Said the trustee to the slave.
@Joanna
“You can’t possibly know all women. That’s like 3.5 billion people!”
Neither can you, yet if the women on manboobz are a good indicator of women in general, the answer is self evident.
Okay, make me a sandwich.
If you find yourself not making me a sandwich, and not suffering any consequences for it, you are not my slave. (In fact, you’re not anyone’s slave and that’s an insult to real slaves and I think we’ve been down this path before. For example, very few actual slaves get to rant on the Internet about how horrible their masters are for several hours at a time.)
…Also, that’s not a “no.”
“Neither can you, yet if the women on manboobz are a good indicator of women in general, the answer is self evident.”
Well, I don’t know any women like the ones you describe, so saying all women are like that is clearly wrong.
That’s not an answer.
I’m against slavery. I don’t think anybody should ever, under any circumstances be forced into slavery. Holly thinks the same thing, as do most of the other posters here.
Do you think slavery is ever justified, NWOlsave? Whether it’s a “what’s good for the goose is good for the gander”* thing or not?
*Is that what you meant by “zero sum game”? If so, that’s not what “zero sum” means.
@darksidecat
“I love how all of Holly’s flaws boil down to “disagreeing w/NWO”
My flaws fall into the same category, I disagreed with a woman, now every woman here has named me a misogynist.
And the Manboobz ladies are awesome ^_^
“I disagreed with a woman, now every woman here has named me a misogynist.”
You’re a misogynist because you hate women. There’s a difference.
“You deny men and women are different and have different natures.”
Since your view of a woman’s nature so far has been “souless harpy who only pretends to like people so they’ll buy her stuff”, then yeah, we’re gonna disagree with you.
When you disagree with women (or anyone) about people’s basic humanity, you kind of tend to get labelled a bigot. It’s not a function of the disagreement so much as of the vileness of your opinions.
What do women place on the table?
Not loyalty, they have sexual agency, the opposite of loyalty.
NWO, this doesn’t even begin to make sense. Having the right and ability to choose whom you have sex with is not only not in any way, shape, or form the opposite of loyalty, it’s also something everyone, male or female, has. By your bizarre reasoning, the fact that I freely choose to have sex only with my boyfriend means I am disloyal to him. How does that make sense even inside your head? Seriously, please explain this. I want to hear how my freely-made choice to boink the hell out of my boyfriend and no one else is disloyal to him.
Not concern, tenderness or sympathy for even individual men above women as a whole.
Exactly! When my boyfriend had cancer and I sat next to him and held him and cried with him while the chemo made him double over in pain, I was doing it because I feel no tenderness or sympathy for him! Makes perfect sense!
Again, NWO, this shit is just silly.
Just two of your posts off the top of my head, slavering beast, and 100% support of women who merely accuse any man. Both are an insult to men and endemic of the society we live in. Both posts were given rave reviews from the entire crew.
Yeah, you really didn’t understand either post. “Rapists don’t wear neon signs saying ‘HI I’M A RAPIST.’ They just seem like ordinary dudes” is not actually remotely the same thing as “Ordinary dudes are all rapists.” Most men are not rapists. But the ones who are rapists don’t look like some sort of special monster. They look like – for example – friendly, elderly football coaches who do volunteer work with kids. Acknowledging that sometimes friendly, elderly football coaches who do volunteer work with kids are rapists is not actually an attack on men as a whole.
As for the latter, it’s been explained to you about a dozen times that being sympathetic to victims is not the same thing as immediately hunting down their alleged attackers, and I don’t see the point in explaining it yet again, since you’ll just ignore it, anyway.
The constant support for gays and men wearing dresses , both of which is anti-masculine to say the least.
It’s really, really silly when you explicitly include “being supportive of men” as an example of how women are not supportive of men. We all know you hate men who deviate from your particular idea of what men ought to be, but that doesn’t actually make supporting them not supporting them.
Women say they don’t dress for other men, but that’s exactly what it is. Disloyalty, flaunting your sexuality for all men instead of the man you claim to love.
Even ignoring the stupidity of the whole “you dress for other men even if you SAY you don’t” thing, my everyday attire when not at work is a t-shirt (frequently with some sort of geeky pop culture reference on it), jeans, and sneakers. What exactly am I flaunting? Also, you’ve explicitly stated that what women should wear is “whatever a man wants.” Given that my boyfriend gave me a couple of the aforementioned geeky t-shirts, please explain how wearing them is disloyal. I’m quite curious. Please do tell!
Let’s be fair now. I never said straight people were all pedophile serial killers, and I never told men that they were asking to be raped, and I never told men they should be my sex slaves!
@Spearhafoc
“Is that what you meant by “zero sum game”? If so, that’s not what “zero sum” means.”
We already went thru the zero sum game nonsense. My reply was something along the lines of preferring the motto of Al Capone in the untouchables. If you pull a knife, I pull a gun, if you pull a gun, I pull a machine gun. In other words, one-upmanship.
@Holly Pervocracy
Primary aggressor law, witholding sex from a woman is DV. It’s emotional coercion.
Gosh Polliwog, that must have been tough =(
“Primary aggressor law, witholding sex from a woman is DV. It’s emotional coercion.”
You make it sound like it’s intentional O.o Proof!
How does a woman’s nature differ from a man’s, NWOslave? What does the ideal woman act like?
NWO, that’s escalation, not zero-sum.
Yeah, that’s not actually what a zero-sum game means at all. This is what we were talking about with “willfully ignorant,” by the way. There is knowledge available in this matter. Avail yourself of it.
http://www.investorwords.com/5383/zero_sum_game.html
“Situation or interaction in which one participant’s gains result only from another’s equivalent losses.”
(I didn’t link Wikipedia because I know how you get. But the same definition is a zillion places on the Internet and in many books.)
Do you understand how that’s different from your understanding of the term? Are you willing to admit, ever, that you had the word wrong and you will use it differently in the future?
So then, since you used your Zero Sum Game (sic) to get out of answering a question, I’ll ask it again.
What should women wear?
Show us a picture of a woman dressed in clothes that display appropriate modesty and femininity; a woman who’s not “flaunting her sexuality” and therefore doesn’t deserve to be raped.
We’re all curious, NWOslave. What should they wear?
ON WHAT PLANET.
Seriously. I want some sort of link or citation here naming what PLANET this occurs on.
Hey, NWO! What makes you happy?
NWO, I too want to know what is appropriately modest attire for me to wear so I don’t get raped.
And I want to know what a woman’s true nature is like. Do you agree with Meller about his stuff about Good Old-Fashioned Girls!! or do you disagree with him?
@Holly Pervocracy
“Yeah, that’s not actually what a zero-sum game means at all. This is what we were talking about with “willfully ignorant,” by the way. There is knowledge available in this matter. Avail yourself of it.”
I know, all of you have given me the link many times. I told you, I prefer one-upmanship. You cry about being oppressed because your precious feelings are hurt, and I give you a law showing how you can kick a man out of his home with a restraining order for you precious feelings. See, one-upmanship. Your precious feelings seem quite inconsequencial compared to the violence of the State wielded indiscriminantly by women.
Here, I will help.
THINGS THAT HAVE RECENTLY MADE OZY HAPPY AND MIGHT MAKE NWO HAPPY
Cake
Achieving something you didn’t think you could
Silly songs about being a bird-plane
Christmas music
Giving presents to people you love
Talking to your friends
Writing stories
Christmas-flavored tea
Taking a shower
Baking
Taking a nap
Reading Rolling Stone
Meeting new people
Watching the world go by out of the window of a car
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