Consider the plight of the poor, horny Man Going His Own Way. He may have convinced himself that women are icky monsters out to highjack his sperm and steal his money. He may have convinced himself we live in a femi-fascist gynocracy out to destroy men and civilization generally. Yet his disobedient penis can’t stop thinking about sex with these evil, filthy women.
And so he turns to his fellow MGTOWers to ask for help: what can I do, my brethren, to stop popping so many boners? Ed1974, a newbie on MGTOWforums.com, puts it this way in a plaintive recent post:
[M]ore than almost anything I want to be woman-free and contentment to live a woman-free life. For more or less all of my adult life I’ve played in to society’s demands that I have to have a woman, and preferably a pretty woman, in my life. I’ve done a lot of Internet dating and every friggin time I get involved with a woman I regret it. Either I just want to get some ass and the woman wants a lot more than that and makes a mess out of my life when I leave, or I end up spending way more money than I ever wanted to spend just to have her grace my life with her presence, or something else that fucks up my life. The bottom line is I sincerely want to live a life without the desire to have a woman in my life.
So Ed is taking steps to quell his desire:
1. I downloaded a firewall blocking all dating sites.
2. I’m going to read as many books on misandry that I can.
3. I’m going to take myself out of situations where I can get in trouble, such as bars.
4. I’m going to fill free time that I would normally spend out with some woman with something productive.
I also want to remember the bad times where I’ve had women who I’ve tried to get out of my life end up stalking me for months on end. And to be perfectly honest, I want to remember the time I got the clap from some skank. I also want to remember that I should be thankful that I’m not a baby daddy and I’ve never had any false rape charges against me.
Alas, but poor pretty Eddie is afraid that this won’t be enough, and begs the assembled MGTOWers for “other steps I should take.”
Site admin Nacho Vidal suggests he go another way entirely:
My advice would be to scrap the ‘steps’ you’ve taken and take your wanking up a notch! Also, have you looked into hiring a whore or two once a month?
Others jump in to endorse the masturbation-and-prostitute strategy, and encourage him to cultivate his hatred of women by reading from the ample selection of stories on the site about evil, depraved, disgusting women. As fairi5fair puts it:
I go to college and still get the biochemical reactions that play into the mate-spawn-die script when I see a 20 year old with a candy apple ass and perky tits, but my growing understanding of women in general helps to make it less urgent and more negligible everyday.
A few others have more novel advice. Our friend womanhater suggests a trip to the mall:
Sit in the food court, and spend a good three hours there. Leisurely sip on some coffee, and simply watch.
See all the soulless men being dragged around by cupcake holding her bags. You’ll see the total absence of hope in the eyes of men in this trap. You’ll see his brain calculating the immense debt being run up, and yet he knows he’s fucked.
Pay attention to the stupid whores in training aged 15 or so, and simply listen the absolute shit running out of their mouth. Watch their behavior and internalize that every twat you see aged 25 was doing the exact same shit a decade ago.
Every time I start to feel my ghosting resolve start to slip, I go to the mall for a few hours. Clears my fucking head every time.
NewWorldMan suggests a sort of mind-over-boner strategy:
Sounds like BS, I know, but telling myself (actually saying the sentence in my head at the moment of attraction): “I control my dick, my dick doesn’t control me — actually works for me.
Frederick326 suggests an anatomy lesson:
Read up on vaginas. They’re fucking disgusting.
And fairi5fair also links to the (somewhat NSFW) video below. I’m not sure what exactly it’s supposed to accomplish other than to remind us that Japan leads the world in baffling entertainment product:
Usual crap. Men look – woman are meant to be looked at. Bleh.
NWO, far be it from me to think I can derail your train of willfully obtuse thought, but I don’t have an objection to sexbots per se, or sex toys. What I do have a problem with is someone who wants a sexbot after they wipe out half the population, or keep a few left as sex slaves. That’s why I think Mellertoad is disgusting and mock-worthy.
And as usual you’re wrong about what women want. Do all women want this? Or just some? How do you know?
All this talk of sexbots is reminding me of Tanith Lee’s Silver Metal Lover (http://www.sff.net/people/victoriastrauss/reviewsilver.html). One of my favorite of her novels!
If he thinks there is a “need for DV”, then he shouldn’t be in a relationship in the first place. If someone is so mad zie wants to hit zir partner, zie should walk away anyway, even if there is no sexbot to go to.
@Holly Pervocracy
“…And it’s pretty misandrist, frankly, to claim that men only care about sex and would be totally satisfied with a brainless sexbot so long as it was sexy. Most men aren’t nearly that shallow, and you’d have to have some fucked-up ideas about the male gender to think so.”
Men don’t care only about sex, but it is a major biological drive. And it is used as a weapon by the fairer sex. Not only the sex itself, but women use their gender for gain, attention, sympathy. It’s not that men are shallow it’s women.
What do women place on the table?
Not loyalty, they have sexual agency, the opposite of loyalty.
Not concern, tenderness or sympathy for even individual men above women as a whole. Just two of your posts off the top of my head, slavering beast, and 100% support of women who merely accuse any man. Both are an insult to men and endemic of the society we live in. Both posts were given rave reviews from the entire crew.
The constant support for gays and men wearing dresses , both of which is anti-masculine to say the least.
Women say they don’t dress for other men, but that’s exactly what it is. Disloyalty, flaunting your sexuality for all men instead of the man you claim to love.
Men don’t have any rights to a live child, or to even the children they have.
So what exactly so do modern day women place on the table?
I think it’s abundantly clear from this thread that NWO doesn’t have the slightest idea what a relationship actually involves. Worse, he’s under the mistaken impression that 90% of men are similarly clueless.
NWO, have ever experienced affection on any level?
@thebionicmommy
“If he thinks there is a “need for DV”, then he shouldn’t be in a relationship in the first place.”
A man yelling at a woman is DV, (emotional coercion). A woman yelling at a man isn’t DV. Women’s law. Predominant aggressor theory.
I’d link to that article about how feminists are better in bed, but I’m guessing NWO will just ignore me again.
@Joanna
“NWO, have ever experienced affection on any level?”
Quite a stupid qeustion. I’ve been engaged, I’ve had plenty of relationships with women. The good ones get snapped up pretty quickly, they’re quite rare.
NWO, when my boyfriend was grieving after a personal loss I came to his house with chocolate. I took him out to a bar and bought him drinks and food and listened to his woes. I let him vent and I held his hand and talked him through some of the things he was feeling. We went home and I held him and he cried a little and I spooned around him until he fell asleep.
So you telling me I have no tenderness or sympathy isn’t even hurtful. It’s just calling a giant short. It’s a nonsensical insult, one that reveals just how little you know.
You didn’t actually understand either one. The “Slavering Beast” one was about how rapists look the same as other men, not about how all men are rapists. The other one was about supporting rape victims personally, not about going after accused men personally–the two are separate activities.
How can you say you’re pro-male when you hate way more men than I do? (Also, I notice you made an exception for DKM’s dollies.)
Right, because we always go out in a transparent shirt, a miniskirt, and no panties. Not, say, jeans and t-shirts.
Only as much and as little as any other human does.
So, let me see if I’ve got this. Someone with personal autonomy — the ability to be independent — who chooses to stay with their partner is not loyal. Only a person who has no option but to stay with their partner because of some external force is loyal.
That’s some fucked up shit right there, milkslave.
This isn’t true. This isn’t even a thing.
I’d find sources, but you don’t believe in sources, so. I said it wasn’t true, therefore I have proven it wasn’t true.
Proven it. That’s proof.
Then why give up on affection?
“The good ones get snapped up pretty quickly, they’re quite rare.”
There are 7 billion people in the world. Everyone is different and very few is what most people consider “the good ones”. That’s down to compatibility and human diversity.
So, NWO, are we to assume you ended up with the bad ones?
NWO, honey, my poly network includes 25% people attracted to men and 100% people attracted to women. We’re servicing a lot of straight dudes here. It all balances out!
Also, I am attracted to James Deen, Andrej Pejic and Ryan Ross, among others, for being pretty, and Meryl Streep, Elizabeth Bear and Idina Menzel, among others, for their achievements.
Yeah, NWOslave, Holly laid down some proofs. What proofs have you set up against her proofs? No proofs. No proofs at all.
It’s obvious that the only reason you reject her proven proofs is Hatred.
Whatever “bad” means in NWO land, that is.
This might seem off topic, but it will be quite relevant shortly. Do any of the ladies here wear a bra to bed?
Joanna – No! Bras are terrible contraptions. I need them to go out in public and not look a little too “hello, no bra here!”, but as soon as I’m in private, off it goes.
@Holly Pervocracy
“NWO, when my boyfriend was grieving after a personal loss I came to his house with chocolate. I took him out to a bar and bought him drinks and food and listened to his woes.”
Ya know what Holly? You might be all you claim to be and a bag of chips to boot. Here’s the problem though, one of your personal flaws.
You do support women who say they’ve been harrassed in any way.
You deny the laws that entitle and privilege women over men.
You deny men and women are different and have different natures.
You deny men and women have different abilities.
You deny laws that most definitely discriminate against men.
You deny the wholesale slander of all men in the MSM.
You deny the massive charity for women only.
And this attitude is promoted and accepted by virtually all women.
Um, I totally offer things to my partners beyond sex. Even the fuckbuddies, I like to think that I also provide snark and excessive D&D references.
Blah blah blah NWO. I’m not going to work hard to refute silly accusations that took you 5 seconds and zero thought to make. You can’t just list out crap and have me jump, not every time.
Do you still think women should be slaves to men? Because it’s a bit silly arguing over the minor details of charity program allocation when that’s on the table.
@Holly: IKR? I was with a guy years ago who was flabbergasted I didn’t wear a bra to bed cos his last gf did or something. He still finds it weird for some reason. But I guess my point is that individuality thing that NWO seems to have problem grasping. Just because the girl you were with slept in a bra, doesn’t mean all girls sleep in a bra.
“And this attitude is promoted and accepted by virtually all women.”
You can’t possibly know all women. That’s like 3.5 billion people!
I love how all of Holly’s flaws boil down to “disagreeing w/NWO” and/or “not being a misogynist”. XD