Consider the plight of the poor, horny Man Going His Own Way. He may have convinced himself that women are icky monsters out to highjack his sperm and steal his money. He may have convinced himself we live in a femi-fascist gynocracy out to destroy men and civilization generally. Yet his disobedient penis can’t stop thinking about sex with these evil, filthy women.
And so he turns to his fellow MGTOWers to ask for help: what can I do, my brethren, to stop popping so many boners? Ed1974, a newbie on MGTOWforums.com, puts it this way in a plaintive recent post:
[M]ore than almost anything I want to be woman-free and contentment to live a woman-free life. For more or less all of my adult life I’ve played in to society’s demands that I have to have a woman, and preferably a pretty woman, in my life. I’ve done a lot of Internet dating and every friggin time I get involved with a woman I regret it. Either I just want to get some ass and the woman wants a lot more than that and makes a mess out of my life when I leave, or I end up spending way more money than I ever wanted to spend just to have her grace my life with her presence, or something else that fucks up my life. The bottom line is I sincerely want to live a life without the desire to have a woman in my life.
So Ed is taking steps to quell his desire:
1. I downloaded a firewall blocking all dating sites.
2. I’m going to read as many books on misandry that I can.
3. I’m going to take myself out of situations where I can get in trouble, such as bars.
4. I’m going to fill free time that I would normally spend out with some woman with something productive.
I also want to remember the bad times where I’ve had women who I’ve tried to get out of my life end up stalking me for months on end. And to be perfectly honest, I want to remember the time I got the clap from some skank. I also want to remember that I should be thankful that I’m not a baby daddy and I’ve never had any false rape charges against me.
Alas, but poor pretty Eddie is afraid that this won’t be enough, and begs the assembled MGTOWers for “other steps I should take.”
Site admin Nacho Vidal suggests he go another way entirely:
My advice would be to scrap the ‘steps’ you’ve taken and take your wanking up a notch! Also, have you looked into hiring a whore or two once a month?
Others jump in to endorse the masturbation-and-prostitute strategy, and encourage him to cultivate his hatred of women by reading from the ample selection of stories on the site about evil, depraved, disgusting women. As fairi5fair puts it:
I go to college and still get the biochemical reactions that play into the mate-spawn-die script when I see a 20 year old with a candy apple ass and perky tits, but my growing understanding of women in general helps to make it less urgent and more negligible everyday.
A few others have more novel advice. Our friend womanhater suggests a trip to the mall:
Sit in the food court, and spend a good three hours there. Leisurely sip on some coffee, and simply watch.
See all the soulless men being dragged around by cupcake holding her bags. You’ll see the total absence of hope in the eyes of men in this trap. You’ll see his brain calculating the immense debt being run up, and yet he knows he’s fucked.
Pay attention to the stupid whores in training aged 15 or so, and simply listen the absolute shit running out of their mouth. Watch their behavior and internalize that every twat you see aged 25 was doing the exact same shit a decade ago.
Every time I start to feel my ghosting resolve start to slip, I go to the mall for a few hours. Clears my fucking head every time.
NewWorldMan suggests a sort of mind-over-boner strategy:
Sounds like BS, I know, but telling myself (actually saying the sentence in my head at the moment of attraction): “I control my dick, my dick doesn’t control me — actually works for me.
Frederick326 suggests an anatomy lesson:
Read up on vaginas. They’re fucking disgusting.
And fairi5fair also links to the (somewhat NSFW) video below. I’m not sure what exactly it’s supposed to accomplish other than to remind us that Japan leads the world in baffling entertainment product:
“Hey, how come you get a pass for using an inanimate object to satisfy your sexual want’s while shaming the bad gender for doing the same thing? In fact, the gang seems quite taken with the idea. if it’s because your waskly wabbit ain’t enough like a man, just attach a wallet to the other end and it’ll be your dreamlover.”
I don’t chose a rabbit over a man, you big silly. They make good substitutes when my man isn’t around and I’m feeling frisky. My boyfriend has no money but I still love him. Funny that. I’ve no problem with guys masturbating their own way. Play with dolls all you like.
I don’t think anyone here has a problem with sex toys, per se. It’s the idea that sex robots can wholly supplant human companionship that’s so objectionable. And the constant refrain of “some day there will be lifelike sex bots, and then you feminists will be SORRY” is just fucking hilarious.
@Joanna
“I don’t chose a rabbit over a man, you big silly. They make good substitutes when my man isn’t around and I’m feeling frisky. My boyfriend has no money but I still love him. Funny that. I’ve no problem with guys masturbating their own way. Play with dolls all you like.”
Isn’t being frisky and using a machine to pleasure yourself simply a cop-out? Let’s be real here, you simply can’t get a man willing to do the job. Is you boy friends name bugs bunny by any chance?
“Isn’t being frisky and using a machine to pleasure yourself simply a cop-out? Let’s be real here, you simply can’t get a man willing to do the job. Is you boy friends name bugs bunny by any chance?”
Lol! Worst comeback ever! My boyfriend and I live in different counties. I see him at weekends. If I feel frisky during the week, I sort it out. My boyfriend’s name is not Buggs Bunny, oh witty one, but my rabbit is called Jessica.
No, not at all – why would it be?
Meller, my boyfriend and I get along very well, truefax. Neither of us is perfect, and, you know, we teach each other new stuff all the time, and we definitely don’t argue all the time. In fact, I’m trying to think of any couples I know who behave like what you’re talking about. I’ve known a few in the past. Most of them have broken up. A couple have stayed together — probably for the children, even though they’ve no doubt realized that they’re not a good match for each other.
Of course, I’ve never castrated anyone either.
Hey, I’ve noticed something, Meller. Lately you’ve moved from talking about actual animals to talking about plush fluffies. Don’t get me wrong — I think it’s wise, if you want something to masturbate on, to NOT use a live animal (or a dead one). And I know you prefer porcelain collectible dolls to actual women who talk and have vaginas and stuff. But I’m wondering why you think a stuffed toy or robot programed to purr and cuddle is a better companion than a dog or cat who can actually purr and cuddle. It’s just — even for you — weird.
NWO, when will you learn that taunting someone who has a boyfriend with “you don’t really have a boyfriend!” is entirely ineffective in hurting their feelings.
It’s like going up to Yao Ming and yelling “you’re short!” He’s not going to be hurt so much as head-tiltingly boggled that this was your choice in insults.
But really, I have no objection to people replacing the “lover” role in their lives with any sort of inanimate object that makes them happy. If you and your cyber-lover/doll collection/rabbit vibrator/plushy toy have a nice little life together, mazel tov.
It’s when you keep interrupting that supposedly nice little life to yell “I’M DOING THIS BECAUSE YOU ALL SUCK!” at the other gender that I start to have objections.
@Holly Pervocracy
Yea but she said. “I see him at weekends.”
Clearly she meant to say, “I see him on weekends.”
This was poorly conveyed, or a mistake, or both. And I have it on good authority both those mistakes = less intelligent. Or at least dumb.
I actually think both phrases are adequate. Unless this is another exclusively Irish thing O.o
@Holly Pervocracy
Excpet when you say… “But really, I have no objection to people replacing the “lover” role in their lives with any sort of inanimate object that makes them happy. If you and your cyber-lover/doll collection/rabbit vibrator/plushy toy have a nice little life together, mazel tov.”
It comes off in a completely mocking tone as I’m sure you meant it to be. However, no such tone was used about Joanna and her rabbit. Why is that? I mean I can go back and find all your mockery of DMK and his dollies. Why would you mock one gender while not mocking the other for the same action?
Yeah, but NWO, she’s never claimed that any group of people were pedophile serial killers or that any gender should be her sex slaves, so you know, advantage still goes to her.
Your problem isn’t that you make mistakes: it’s that you make them over and over again, no matter how many times people point them out to you. It shows a clear refusal to learn from your mistakes.
Take this, for example:
You mean, “Yeah”. “Yea” is something you’d see in the Bible.
You’re not stupid for making the mistake – lots of people do – but you will demonstrate your stupidity if you continue to say “yea” when you mean “yeah”. Got it?
“You’re not stupid for making the mistake – lots of people do – but you will demonstrate your stupidity if you continue to say “yea” when you mean “yeah”. Got it?”
Pushy feminist oppression!!!
NWO, how can you complain about being called dumb when you deliberately play dumb like this?
My problem with you is not your grammar, and my problem with DKM is not that he owns dolls. And I’m pretty sure you know damn well that this is the case. You’re not that dense.
@Spearhafoc
Yea.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/yea
NWOslave: her mistake would matter just a bit more if it was in a sentence were she was explaing how perfect she is, don’t you think?
Men, including sexists men, can (and do) use sex toys. You can too, there is nothing wrong with that. You can use them with your girlfriend, when you can’t see your girlfriend and for a number of reasons unrelated to the existence of girlfriends. That’s not the problem.
The problem is when you’re mad at people because they’re not good enough compared to an inanimate object.
” However, no such tone was used about Joanna and her rabbit. Why is that?”
My rabbit is not my sole source of sexual activity =P
@Kyrie
“Men, including sexists men, can (and do) use sex toys. You can too, there is nothing wrong with that.”
If there is nothing wrong with that, don’t you think everyone of you owe’s DMK an apology? Everyone of you has mocked him for this very thing.
Joanna, there is nothing wrong with people whose sextoys are the sole source of sexual activity. ^_^
“At weekends” is perfectly correct, NWO.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/6986701/People-happier-at-weekends-scientists-discover.html
It seems to be a British phrase, since I’ve never heard it here in America.
@Kyrie: Ha! True =D I prolly should have added “I don’t think they render real penis obsolete.”
I’ll admit that NWO is on to one weakness of ours. When someone says something outrageously horrible–when they say they want all women to be slaves or that they think women should either be forced to marry or forced into sex work–we do tend to pick on their minor flaws more.
So we do pick on NWO’s grammar more, and we do make fun of DKM’s dollies, but that’s just because they’ve both said bizarre and hateful things. It’s not because we care about grammar or dollies in themselves. We wouldn’t pick on a nice man who owned dolls, but DKM is not a nice man.
Are you kidding me, NWO? I’ve said, and I’m not the only one, that his love of dolls actually makes him appear a little more humane!
Which is actually what started a whole thread of “so what do you like, NWO?” as people were wondering if you too had something you actually liked.
What Holly said. People hardly ever pick on my grammar, and they are quite gentle when they call me out for saying offensive things.
Also, us unintelligent people are still people 😉