Consider the plight of the poor, horny Man Going His Own Way. He may have convinced himself that women are icky monsters out to highjack his sperm and steal his money. He may have convinced himself we live in a femi-fascist gynocracy out to destroy men and civilization generally. Yet his disobedient penis can’t stop thinking about sex with these evil, filthy women.
And so he turns to his fellow MGTOWers to ask for help: what can I do, my brethren, to stop popping so many boners? Ed1974, a newbie on MGTOWforums.com, puts it this way in a plaintive recent post:
[M]ore than almost anything I want to be woman-free and contentment to live a woman-free life. For more or less all of my adult life I’ve played in to society’s demands that I have to have a woman, and preferably a pretty woman, in my life. I’ve done a lot of Internet dating and every friggin time I get involved with a woman I regret it. Either I just want to get some ass and the woman wants a lot more than that and makes a mess out of my life when I leave, or I end up spending way more money than I ever wanted to spend just to have her grace my life with her presence, or something else that fucks up my life. The bottom line is I sincerely want to live a life without the desire to have a woman in my life.
So Ed is taking steps to quell his desire:
1. I downloaded a firewall blocking all dating sites.
2. I’m going to read as many books on misandry that I can.
3. I’m going to take myself out of situations where I can get in trouble, such as bars.
4. I’m going to fill free time that I would normally spend out with some woman with something productive.
I also want to remember the bad times where I’ve had women who I’ve tried to get out of my life end up stalking me for months on end. And to be perfectly honest, I want to remember the time I got the clap from some skank. I also want to remember that I should be thankful that I’m not a baby daddy and I’ve never had any false rape charges against me.
Alas, but poor pretty Eddie is afraid that this won’t be enough, and begs the assembled MGTOWers for “other steps I should take.”
Site admin Nacho Vidal suggests he go another way entirely:
My advice would be to scrap the ‘steps’ you’ve taken and take your wanking up a notch! Also, have you looked into hiring a whore or two once a month?
Others jump in to endorse the masturbation-and-prostitute strategy, and encourage him to cultivate his hatred of women by reading from the ample selection of stories on the site about evil, depraved, disgusting women. As fairi5fair puts it:
I go to college and still get the biochemical reactions that play into the mate-spawn-die script when I see a 20 year old with a candy apple ass and perky tits, but my growing understanding of women in general helps to make it less urgent and more negligible everyday.
A few others have more novel advice. Our friend womanhater suggests a trip to the mall:
Sit in the food court, and spend a good three hours there. Leisurely sip on some coffee, and simply watch.
See all the soulless men being dragged around by cupcake holding her bags. You’ll see the total absence of hope in the eyes of men in this trap. You’ll see his brain calculating the immense debt being run up, and yet he knows he’s fucked.
Pay attention to the stupid whores in training aged 15 or so, and simply listen the absolute shit running out of their mouth. Watch their behavior and internalize that every twat you see aged 25 was doing the exact same shit a decade ago.
Every time I start to feel my ghosting resolve start to slip, I go to the mall for a few hours. Clears my fucking head every time.
NewWorldMan suggests a sort of mind-over-boner strategy:
Sounds like BS, I know, but telling myself (actually saying the sentence in my head at the moment of attraction): “I control my dick, my dick doesn’t control me — actually works for me.
Frederick326 suggests an anatomy lesson:
Read up on vaginas. They’re fucking disgusting.
And fairi5fair also links to the (somewhat NSFW) video below. I’m not sure what exactly it’s supposed to accomplish other than to remind us that Japan leads the world in baffling entertainment product:
“DKM doesn’t seem to get that if men (or rather, a very select population of men) retreat into the comforting arms of their cyberlovers, women will still exist. It’s not like we just evaporate because no one is dating us. Even if we’re all doomed to spinsterhood, we’ll still want jobs and stuff.”
Really? Cos all men everywhere cease to exist when I turn on my rabbit. I thought that’s how they work. O.o
I almost hesitate to do this, given DKM’s proven propensities, but it’s too apt!
A model demonstrates the surgical changes needed for her to look like BARBIE:
http://hoydenabouttown.com/?p=10933
(possibly not too safe for work)
Women: are not and never will be dolls.
ithiliana, that is creepy….
Meller, I still don’t understand with feminists should be afraid of sexy robots. Unless you plan on murdering non-fluffy women the day you get your cyber wife, that’s no more bad news for us than MGTOW.
Because
1) The users will mainly be woman-haters, so no big deal losing them.
2) We have brainwashed the world (or so you say), I bet we can convince a few men to keep dating us.
3) Your elaborate and smiling sex-toys won’t be able to have babies. So you, and the other users won’t have babies, only the feminists and those brainwashed manginas will. Next generation will be feminists (including male ones) only! We win the world!!
4) If 3 doesn’t work, why couldn’t we get our own sex robots? Remember, we are evil independent women that have a salary, so we could buy them. Which mean we will all have tall brad pitt that makes our ‘gina tingle 24/7!
5) Once you’re dead, people, including feminists, will keep on laughing. So, whoever laughs best, it won’t be you. Probably the last human alive, but I don’t believe his laugh will be that good.
I’d like to ask you to stop it, or at least curb your use a bit. It’s very disorienting to have to stop existing once every day.
“I’d like to ask you to stop it, or at least curb your use a bit. It’s very disorienting to have to stop existing once every day.”
Lol. I’m not the only woman with one you know XD
DKM, I do understand where you and the rest of the pro-robogirl contingent is coming from- I totally get it. It’s tempting, when you look at all the arrogant, mean, condescending women with superiority complexes and huge bloated egos, to consider the possibility of bypassing all that with a synthetic android. But to me, it’s just not feasible.
For one, I think such technology is MUCH farther away than you guys think, but even if it wasn’t, I can’t get excited about the prospect. I mean, no matter how advanced, robots are still robots. It’s circuitry and binary and 10101011110101 and all that shit. A computer, and computers are fucking stupid. Oh, it can do shit quick, but it needs to be told exactly what to do and how to do it, in a language it understands. I’m a computer science minor, so I have experience in coding, and it’s frustrating as fuck. A symbol or letter or slash out of place and the thing sits there. It doesn’t think, it’s like a really advanced pulley. In other words, EVERYTHING needs to be preprogrammed. And you just can’t do that with social interaction, which is why a female android could NEVER emulate even a simplistic relationship. It would be akin to talking in Microsoft Sam’s voice. That’s creepy. I remember I used to play video games obsessively in middle school and early high school, and then I sort of started realizing that it’s all bits of code and numbers and shit. Now, I mean, I still play them recreationally (mostly online) but whenever I try to get into something big, with a time commitment- like Skyrim- I start thinking about how none of it is real, and it kills the immersion. I would imagine something similar would happen with robogirls. You know?
@Joanna: I know! Definitely creepy. I’ve seen a lot of stuff on how unrealistic the doll’s proportions are, but the images on an actual woman’s body (a model no less!) are chilling.
Though there is that one woman I read about who has dedicated herself to remaking herself as Barbie….ew, apparently there is more than one.
I shall not link…
Joanna, that might be weird but I find this picture actually sexy, and badass. It looks like she’s saying: “I know my body doesn’t fit this stupid standard of beauty, and it never will. All these parts of my body that supposedly makes me unfit, I like them. This is what a (very beautiful) human looks like, not the doll!”
I agree with you Kyrie. I was referring to the Barbie proportions contrasted against human proportions as creepy. If someone looked like that in real life, they’d be freaks of nature =o
Ithiliana-
The attractiveness of dolls comes not so much from their appearance, but from the fact that so many of you modern women have very unattractive personalities, where men and male dominance is concerned. All you can do is argue with them, assert “anything you can do, I can do better”, and otherwise be competitive, bitter, and castrating shrikes! Dolls can be given very feminine personalities, can be dressed and made up to suit their owner, and (eventually) will be programmed and evolved to please the man in their lives better than any “modern women”.
That this woman may be physically unattractive compared to a current run of barbie doll is almost irrelevant compared to that fact!
All that over-educated, opinionated castrating modern women do is ARGUE with their men! Everything is a contest or power struggle, everything is who is ‘right”and who is “wrong”, everything is compromise and jockying for position. Maybe there are some contemporary males who can live with this, but it cannot be a permanent basis for relationship for men to retain our sanity! We need something better, and it may be that dolls (or plush fluffies) are the beginnings of a considerable improvement!
It is true that, true to KathrineB and Pecunium’s observations, there ARE still traditional women, but there aren’t enough of them, many of them who are the best at being traditional fluffy wife-and-mother type domestic women have a serious defect, to wit: extremely intense religious convictions that may be most difficult for less devout men to live with and to love, and also, I hate to admit it, there is a certain amount of defection, suggesting that some are actually unhappy being real women, and are modern women in disguise, and it would be unfortunate for a man–and his children–to have such a woman in his home, or in the community, for that matter, as her happiness and health are in his hands, and are his responsibility! We need both a larger number of, and more reliable Sweet old-Fashioned Girls!
I agree with the modern woman above–youall can be “right” to your hearts content, but Men Will Go Their Own Way, and feminists will have nothing but tame, castrated renegade males, or “husbandbots”, which will be little different than what they already have, so they are, unlike men, back to where they started!
I don’t know, I’m not convinced
that DKM isn’t just a really clever parody troll.
Really, Meller? I couldn’t stand being with anyone who doesn’t challenge me or just does everything I say. I need someone who keeps me on my toes, points out my flaws and carries his own opinion. What’s the point otherwise?
You’ll rue the day you turned down a labotomy and sex slavery, ladies! You have Mellertoad’s word on that!
God Dammit, Meller, look what a mess you’re making of our lovely rugs. YOU are the reason we can’t have nice things! Next time you feel the need to bloviate, excuse yourself from the conversation and do it outside. Preferably off the property line. It’s only good manners.
Your opinion is not fact, us being unattractive to you does not mean we not attractive to anybody. That fact you want to have sex with a robot and possibly pets, if I understood well one of your previous comment does not mean anything about the sexual desire of other men.
So? A hundred time again, what if? What if you marry your blender, your flesh light or your doll (but please don’t marry a puppy)? We actually like what we “have”.
Do go your own way, as long as you don’t hurt anything alive that’s none of our problem.
Not true! Sometimes there is snuggling.
I can have a job and opinions and premarital sex and snuggle with my man.
It is a wonderful world we live in.
Meller: You know that shrikes are cute little birds that look a bit like sparrows, yes? Kinda takes the sting out of the insult.
Hang on, how can you bang on about wanting a fluffy submissive wife and then claim that feminists want ‘tame, castrated renegade males, or “husbandbots’?
You basically admit to wanting the gender-flipped equivalent of that.
Hey gang, I’m back for a sec and just dropped by to mock the mockers.
@Joanna
“Really? Cos all men everywhere cease to exist when I turn on my rabbit. I thought that’s how they work. O.o”
Hey, how come you get a pass for using an inanimate object to satisfy your sexual want’s while shaming the bad gender for doing the same thing? In fact, the gang seems quite taken with the idea. if it’s because your waskly wabbit ain’t enough like a man, just attach a wallet to the other end and it’ll be your dreamlover.
Sexbots for everybody!
On the flip side, Joanna, I can’t imagine anything more boring than spending time with Mellar’s conception of ideal womanhood–it would be like having an ultra-bland version of Stepford wife.
DKM keeps threatening that he and men like him will Go Their Own Way, but he has yet to articulate why the rest of us should care, as there doesn’t really appear to be any downside.
Caraz: But that’s okay, because he’s a man, and MANLY need take priority over girlygiggle bullshit. Or something like that, I’ve learned to tune out most of his crap.
I think there is something to be said for stylization and exaggerations of the human form in animation, illustrations, toys and whatnot.
Belle from Beauty and the Beast has a head wider than her waist, and Green Lantern from the Justice League cartoon has shoulders that could fit five heads across (the usual is three).
I think they’re both perfectly reasonable designs, despite their lack of realism – although they’re obviously aiming at different goals (beauty vs power) and I realise that says a lot about the gender roles and the enforcement of them in our society. I understand there are issues to talk about in regards to representation, but I don’t think it should be done in a way that implies only strict recreation of the human form is acceptable. Adherence to reality can sometimes cause serious problems in terms of the Uncanny Valley or general unnaturalness(just look at the rotoscoping used in early Disney movies).
FFS, NWO, could you at least warn us before you take a dump on the rug? We could put newspapers down or something.