Consider the plight of the poor, horny Man Going His Own Way. He may have convinced himself that women are icky monsters out to highjack his sperm and steal his money. He may have convinced himself we live in a femi-fascist gynocracy out to destroy men and civilization generally. Yet his disobedient penis can’t stop thinking about sex with these evil, filthy women.
And so he turns to his fellow MGTOWers to ask for help: what can I do, my brethren, to stop popping so many boners? Ed1974, a newbie on MGTOWforums.com, puts it this way in a plaintive recent post:
[M]ore than almost anything I want to be woman-free and contentment to live a woman-free life. For more or less all of my adult life I’ve played in to society’s demands that I have to have a woman, and preferably a pretty woman, in my life. I’ve done a lot of Internet dating and every friggin time I get involved with a woman I regret it. Either I just want to get some ass and the woman wants a lot more than that and makes a mess out of my life when I leave, or I end up spending way more money than I ever wanted to spend just to have her grace my life with her presence, or something else that fucks up my life. The bottom line is I sincerely want to live a life without the desire to have a woman in my life.
So Ed is taking steps to quell his desire:
1. I downloaded a firewall blocking all dating sites.
2. I’m going to read as many books on misandry that I can.
3. I’m going to take myself out of situations where I can get in trouble, such as bars.
4. I’m going to fill free time that I would normally spend out with some woman with something productive.
I also want to remember the bad times where I’ve had women who I’ve tried to get out of my life end up stalking me for months on end. And to be perfectly honest, I want to remember the time I got the clap from some skank. I also want to remember that I should be thankful that I’m not a baby daddy and I’ve never had any false rape charges against me.
Alas, but poor pretty Eddie is afraid that this won’t be enough, and begs the assembled MGTOWers for “other steps I should take.”
Site admin Nacho Vidal suggests he go another way entirely:
My advice would be to scrap the ‘steps’ you’ve taken and take your wanking up a notch! Also, have you looked into hiring a whore or two once a month?
Others jump in to endorse the masturbation-and-prostitute strategy, and encourage him to cultivate his hatred of women by reading from the ample selection of stories on the site about evil, depraved, disgusting women. As fairi5fair puts it:
I go to college and still get the biochemical reactions that play into the mate-spawn-die script when I see a 20 year old with a candy apple ass and perky tits, but my growing understanding of women in general helps to make it less urgent and more negligible everyday.
A few others have more novel advice. Our friend womanhater suggests a trip to the mall:
Sit in the food court, and spend a good three hours there. Leisurely sip on some coffee, and simply watch.
See all the soulless men being dragged around by cupcake holding her bags. You’ll see the total absence of hope in the eyes of men in this trap. You’ll see his brain calculating the immense debt being run up, and yet he knows he’s fucked.
Pay attention to the stupid whores in training aged 15 or so, and simply listen the absolute shit running out of their mouth. Watch their behavior and internalize that every twat you see aged 25 was doing the exact same shit a decade ago.
Every time I start to feel my ghosting resolve start to slip, I go to the mall for a few hours. Clears my fucking head every time.
NewWorldMan suggests a sort of mind-over-boner strategy:
Sounds like BS, I know, but telling myself (actually saying the sentence in my head at the moment of attraction): “I control my dick, my dick doesn’t control me — actually works for me.
Frederick326 suggests an anatomy lesson:
Read up on vaginas. They’re fucking disgusting.
And fairi5fair also links to the (somewhat NSFW) video below. I’m not sure what exactly it’s supposed to accomplish other than to remind us that Japan leads the world in baffling entertainment product:
“If they’re tall and good looking, persistence is ‘romantic.’”
Put down the Twilight novels, Arks.
NWO: Do you remember when you tried to do math? Remember how you forgot how time scales into all population demographics? Or how about how you have continually failed statistics? Never mind that you fail to source much of your knowledge and it is often just incorrect or horrid misreadings.
Yeah, we’ve harped on you for many things NWO. Feminist hatred alone it is not. It is because you are actually just bad with information, bad with application of intelligence, and bad with logic, as evidenced by many of your interactions here over time. Don’t act like all that you’ve said exists in a vacuum. You’ve proven your own ignorance and capacity time and time again.
@Spearhafoc
“That’s the thing though, NWOslave. You haven’t acquired any knowledge. You’re a willfully ignorant anti-intellectual cretin.”
Is that because you said so?
The statement I’ve made at the top of this page is a fact. Why am I, “a willfully ignorant anti-intellectual cretin?”
Wouldn’t a good description of a willfully ignorant anti-intellectual cretin be someone who attacks someone else for no other reason than hatred, reguardless of how correct their position is on any subject?
Yeah, NWO I’m actually really not so feminist but I still think you’re a gobshite.
“Wouldn’t a good description of a willfully ignorant anti-intellectual cretin be someone who attacks someone else for no other reason than hatred, reguardless of how correct their position is on any subject?”
Yes, but you are never correct. Ever.
Buy a mirror.
And see what I said above about you acquiring knowledge, and name for me one instance of you actually acquiring a fact that you didn’t know before. (From Sesame Street, if necessary.) Every time you’ve been presented with facts here, you’ve ignored them or called them lies, and you’ve refused to provide facts of your own. Is there anywhere you get facts? Because if not, then “willfully ignorant” is the only word for it.
NWO, I’m still curious as to where you acquired the knowledge that homosexuals are 15 times more likely to be pedophiles.
Hey NWO. If you assume feminists automatically hate you because you are a man, and refuse everything they have to say because of that belief, (which is circular reasoning) the result is that people are going to have a low opinion of you, which in your mind, validates your assumption that all feminists hate men.
Have you considered that the way people treat you depends on how you treat them?
I distinguish, usually, between smart and intelligent and educated. Educated means you have access to a bunch of facts; intelligent means you have above average reasoning and/or memory capabilities; smart means you have a yearning to know and a desire for the truth. Your education and intelligence are not your fault: no one can hold your genes or your nutrition, your access to free time and libraries or your shitty schools against you.
But whether or not you’re smart is your own damn fault. My biggest problem with our trolls is that, although some of them are educated and a few are even reasonably intelligent, not one of them has showed the least ability to be smart. (Well, except MRAL, which is part of the reason I like him despite myself.)
@Flib
“Yeah, we’ve harped on you for many things NWO. Feminist hatred alone it is not.”
If that’s the case. Please explain to me why I’m being attacked for the statement at the top of the page. The statement I’ve made is 100% correct. There can only be one reason for such a relentless attack. Hatred.
Exactly.
You make moronic claims (ex. Russian and Spanish use the same alphabet, only contracts written in capital letters are binding, etc), and when someone who’s actually an expert on the topic, or at least knows a thing or two about it, points out that you’re wrong, you continue making the claim. That’s not the sign of an intelligent thinker.
@NWO: Read the rest of the paragraph that you quoted me from. That answer is the same. You do not exist in a vacuum.
NWOslave, you’ve outright stated that you want 51% of the population to be slaves to the other 49%. It’s not all that shocking that people here hate you.
“Yet by feminist standards, if they’d misspelled one word or misplaced one coma they’d be unintelligent fools.”
That’s not a feminist thing. That’s an internet thing. If you’ve ever trolled any other sites apart from feminists sites you’d know that.
I will agree, NWO, that there are intelligent people with very bad grammar. For instance, dyslexics, or the poorly educated, or people who are learning a foreign language, or even the NSWATM contributor Marc (who is a sweetheart, even if he can’t use apostrophes). There is a correlation, insofar as people with good grammar are likely to be more intelligent than people with bad grammar, but it’s hardly a strong correlation.
The same is true of knowledge and intelligence.
…That doesn’t make you smart, though.
@ozymandias42
“But whether or not you’re smart is your own damn fault. My biggest problem with our trolls is that, although some of them are educated and a few are even reasonably intelligent, not one of them has showed the least ability to be smart.”
How can anyone here claim a greater intelligence when I’m being attacked simply for being NWOslave? I’m smart enough to know I’m being attacked not for the statement I’ve made above, but for the hatred you all possess.
if this isn’t the case, why am I being attacked for a statement which is 100% fact?
I doubt that many commenters here actively hate you, NWO. They might think you’re an asshole, but being an asshole doesn’t necessarily mean you’re hated – just that people find you annoying and frustrating and obnoxious.
Me, I kind of pity you, because you’re obviously very unhappy and that makes me sad.
You say things that are not factual all the time, NWO-like the flouride stuff for example. We offer you factual rebuttals and you mock them. So it makes sense to me that we’d deride you a bit.
Once again, you’re confusing “smartness” with “psychic powers.” If you know a thing because you’ve acquired and synthesized knowledge, you’re smart. If you know a thing because you just do, you’re psychic.
I’m pretty sure you’re not either, because you’ve failed to acquire the knowledge “I’ve previously expressed the desire for all women to be slaves of men, as well as many other hateful and/or factually incorrect things” and synthesize it into “they probably still don’t like me because of that.”
If creepiness is all about behaviour, why do people talk about creepy looks on a photo (eg. due to bad light conditions…)? Then people have also talked about creepy music…
@Graham
You can pity me, you can hate me, you can call me an asshole. The simple fact remains, everyone of you is attacking me for stating a position that anyone with even the slightest intelligence would agree with.
Even if, as everyone of you as a monolithic block contend, I’m normally always wrong. The only possible excuse for the relentless attack upon me is indoctrinated hatred.
Talacaris – They’re different meanings of the word? And I have heard people say that someone is “creepy looking,” although it usually has more to do with their dress and grooming than their body.
But we’re not arguing that “creepy” is always used fairly. Only that when it’s used against a guy who happens to refer to vaginas as slime-dripping meat jars, that usage probably has something to do with his behavior.
NWO: The statement I’ve made at the top of this page is a fact. Why am I, “a willfully ignorant anti-intellectual cretin?”
Because when someone (anyone) points out the mistaken facts you believe in, you say, “nunh-unh!”, and repeat it as if that somehow will make reverse the falsity of it.
As an example I offer the following into evidence:
If that’s the case. Please explain to me why I’m being attacked for the statement at the top of the page. The statement I’ve made is 100% correct. There can only be one reason for such a relentless attack. Hatred.
Which, well before this was said, I (among others) has made detailed responses as to why you were in error.
You, blithely, carry on as if no one has eyes to read. As if the mere act of you denying any such thing has taken place makes it so.
That, my dear, is textbook stupidity: repeating the same course of action with the expectation of different results.
Get down off that cross, NWO, we need the wood.
We’ve spent this entire page disagreeing with the position in ways substantially different from “this is wrong because I don’t like NWO.” You either haven’t read those parts or are willfully ignoring them.
This, right here. This is why your statement is wrong. I don’t disagree with the rest of your comment. Poor communication skills do not necessarily correlate with lack of intelligence (philosophers and anthropologists are famous for being shitty writers), although it’s harder to convince people you’re smart if you can’t adequately communicate.
But what you did with that one sentence was a) misinterpret and wildly overexaggerate what someone was saying (Spearhafoc was pointing out, as many have done, that making grammatical errors while pointing out how smart you are is pretty funny, not that one error makes you dumb) and b) make that overexaggeration into something that feminists do for reals, which is itself an overexaggeration (not all feminists care or know about grammar and spelling) as well as misapplied (I’ve seen people point out the same thing that Spearhafoc did in many places that had nothing to do with feminism – it’s a people thing, not a feminist thing). Your own hatred for feminism turned a perfectly innocent comment into frothing ridiculousness.
And that is why people think you’re a hateful idiot.