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Hole lotta hate

Be thankful you live in a world that also contains things like this.

Though Thanksgiving is over, I’m still thinking about all the things I’m thankful for. I’m thankful that so many fine people have made this blog a kind of online home. I’m thankful for the steady stream of trolls that keep us all so busy.  I’m thankful for friends, and kitties, and Netflix streaming, and the delicious Thanksgiving buffet I gorged on yesterday. I’m thankful I’m nowhere near a mall today. I could go on and on.

But instead I’ll just point out that I’m extra, especially, really really super-duper thankful I’m not this guy, as happily “single [and] free” as he claims to be. Or one of the 42 bitter assholes on The Spearhead who upvoted this comment of his:

I was going to limit my usage of women to that of a nice meat hole, but I concluded even that is too risky. Now I try to avoid western women altogether. Decades of child support can ruin a man’s life. STDs can ruin a man’s life. A False rape claim can ruin a man’s life. Also, women have disproportionate support from the courts and law enforcement thanks to traitorous manginas. Nearly every man I know who is living with a wife or gf is miserable. Nearly every man I know who does not have a wife or gf has a higher quality of life-or at least appears to be happier. From my observations, men’s quality of life usually decreases after long stints in relationships.

I will stay single, stay free, and live alone.

I am pretty sure that the “meat holes” of the world are even more happy about this last bit than you are.

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zhinxy
zhinxy
12 years ago

Also, please wash your hands.

Demios
Demios
12 years ago

DKM
The embryonic “Publik skoolz” movement, prohibition, women’s sufferage, eugenics, with Planned Parenthood, and the anti-immigrant and anti-Catholic movements of the day weren’t exclusively feminist by any means, but to say that women didn’t have a large, growing, and decisive role in their growth…

History seems oddly different in Meller-land. For example, I was under the impression that prohibition was largely the fault of the temperance movement, whom were a subset of the conservatives at the time. Motivated out of anti-German sentiments in the population so soon after World War 1, they finally got the law they had been dreaming of passed.

I can’t for the life of me see what part of that would remotely coincide with the notion that men and women are equal and should be treated as human beings (which is one of the core ideas of feminism AFAIK). Then again, what do I know. My feminist brain must have warped me into accepting researched facts instead of wild random claims.

Oh well, I’ll let him live in Meller time. I’m curious, which one of the trolls here is qualified to be Meller Lite (sorry, I couldn’t resist).

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Meller how are the keys on your keyboard arranged? xD Specifically the “I” and “Y” ones…

Jodi
Jodi
12 years ago

I’ve worked doing clinical trials for the past 20 years. Somewhere between 20 and 30 percent of the trials I’ve worked on have not resulted in an approval by the FDA…and that’s just in my experience, working first in psychiatry, then cancer, and now a genetic mutation that kills primarily children and young adults.

Sure, the FDA and our process of getting new drugs approved is flawed, and it costs an enormous amount to develop new compounds, However, it’s a system that mostly works. How would you design a better one? Require less safety testing? Force companies (in our capitalistic society) to work for free? Decrease government oversight for corporations people are already suspicious of?

Back in the 50s, the patient group I work with now mostly died in infancy. Now — due to drugs — many make it to their 30s, and I am so very hopeful that this generation of kids will live to be senior citizens.

I’ve seen more than one promising drug from a small company fail because they ran out of money to continue with the compound. With the money that it takes to develop and test a new drug, Big Pharma is about the only way you’re going to get any new ones.

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
12 years ago

Reread the post! I was discussing what happened after the pharmatoxins (that we know about, and that make the news,often after thousands of deadly mishaps) RECEIVED FDA APPROVAL and were released for marketing!

As for what to do:

How about repealing import restrictions, covering alternative treatments with 1st Amendment protection (subject to the normal prohibition of false or misleading advertising) repealing the patent (monopoly granting) coverage for drugs, medical and surgical equipment, and personal civil and criminal liability for CEOs and lab testing staffs and salespeople for promoting or marketing pharmatoxins that were known to be very dangerous?

These very simple FREE MARKET measures would do two things almost immediately: Offer Patients and their Healthcare providers far safer, more effective and less expensive medicines (if available) and raise the quality and reliability of any medical and pharmacological research that these corporations do in order to remain competitive.

Again, little awareness is shown in above posts of what to do when so-called regulators are captured, both in terms of legal oversight and in terms of marketing policy, by the corporations whose dangerous and/or fraudulent activities they are supposed to be “regulating”.

Zhinxi–and what happens when your “interlocking local watchdog groups, consumer protection agencies (like the “Better Business Bureau funded by the local chamber of commerce–i.e. local profiteers–and not with evil government) are similarly taken over, or just as likely, you and your comrades “over-regulate” and drive legitimate and honest producers away, either overseas, or into bankruptcy court? No, Zhinxi, I am not “telling you what to do”, I am just pointing out what happens when you (and your comrades) do what you thnk is the best policy! At least my suggestions allow for a timely, and probably far superior, replacements for those evildoers when the pharmatoxin go out of business. or go to prison (lotsa luck!!).

At least businessmen, and their creditors and shareholders, have a stake in their honesty and reliability. If they are destructive, dishonest, or antisocial in their commercial or sales activities, they go out of business (barring bailouts, but you know that already, don’t you?) What happens to a government agency–or “private” agency acting as a front for government–when IT becomes dishonest or incompetent? At least “libertarian kindergarden” has some answers for the problems raised by government intervention and regulation. Marxist–or Naderite–sloganeering about “evils of deregulation” is stuff I get from any lousy politician (including O-bomber) any day of the week, so how independent are youall from “government” after all?

Demios, whom do you think funded, staffed, organized, and promoted the “temperance”–later on the Prohibition–movement?

Women–specifically feminists–whose “women’s sufferage” was very much a “progressive” cause. It was their activism as “sufferagettes” which, to a substantial degree, provided the “progressives” of the time with the money and personnel to advance their demented agenda, in its entirety, including women’s sufferage. Any notion of the equality of men and women on the part of women sufferagettes was then–as now–strictly window dressing for bigotry and tyranny! I’m not blaming women for the progressive era insanities, including Prohibition or eugennics, but in your quest for the vote, you proto-feminists certainly made a bad situation in this country, much worse!

CassandraSays-Please stop being disgusting! Nobody is “masturbating” here, least of all, not I !! I can enjoy my visions of enchanting women without doing that, at least not on a computer!

The typewriter on my comp is arranged the way that the standard ‘qwerty’ model found on all computers, and typewriter keyboards is arranged, Ami Angelwings. The placements of the I and Y keys too. I hope that this answers your question, if you had one. Go back to your girlygiggles, xD!

Kave, you and I never met, either you are “pulling the legs” kidding some of the other feminists here, or somebody was impersonating me! I don’t pick up women in bars or hotel lobbies, I would never introduce myself in such a manner to you (or any woman), and don’t you think that I have better judgement and good taste than to pick up modern women who post from a site like manboobz.com? Think about this, why would I seek a “bootycall” or “one night stand” from a site that I know to be infested with feminists? I would rather do in private what CassandraSays suggested above (albeit disgustingly) than have sex with a manboobzette!

Molly Ren
12 years ago

Well, speak of the devil! I just got back from updating DKM’s History of the Modern World! *goes back to add a section for Big Pharma*

Lauralot
Lauralot
12 years ago

Now that I’ve made the comparison, whenever DKM speaks, all I can picture is this:

Like, the only difference in my head is that he’d be obsessed with dolls, not romance novels.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
12 years ago

I once read a blurb on why FDR supported the FDA…he heard about people getting sick and dying from medicines made with anti-freeze. Now I cannot source that because it has been so long but it does have a ring of truth because I have seen so many other cases where businesses cut corners just for profit.

I want to have things like the FDA because I do not want to have to test any medicines I give to myself or my family to see if the maker made them with anti-freeze.

Too bad freedom means having less of it to make sure I do not get killed from badly made products.

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

I totally forgot to mention yesterday that I asked the boyfriend if I was cute and fluffy. He said: “You’re sexy, baby. ‘Cute and fluffy’ is reserved for cats and dogs.” Glad to know the person I’m with likes to distinguish between partner and pet, unlike our Meller.

Ooh ooh and then I spent like 20 minutes snuggling with one of his cats. By which I mean, sucking out its life essence to fuel my feminist rage!!

zhinxy
zhinxy
12 years ago

Zhinxi–and what happens when your “interlocking local watchdog groups, consumer protection agencies (like the “Better Business Bureau funded by the local chamber of commerce–i.e. local profiteers–and not with evil government) are similarly taken over, or just as likely, you and your comrades “over-regulate” and drive legitimate and honest producers away, either overseas, or into bankruptcy court? No, Zhinxi, I am not “telling you what to do”, I am just pointing out what happens when you (and your comrades) do what you thnk is the best policy! At least my suggestions allow for a timely, and probably far superior, replacements for those evildoers when the pharmatoxin go out of business. or go to prison (lotsa luck!!).

…..

i was assuming an anarchist free market model. Okay, so go on, what on earth do YOU think I want? And who are “my comrades?”

zhinxy
zhinxy
12 years ago

Did you read the post I linked? Of course I want patents gone. And the prescription monopoly. You ALREADY KNOW I WANT LIMITED LIABILITY GONE.

But please go on, what do YOU think I’m advocating, as a libertarian, and who are my comrades. I really want to know how you’re interpreting what I’m saying and what I’m like in your worldview.

Pecunium
12 years ago

PKFAE: I once read a blurb on why FDR supported the FDA…he heard about people getting sick and dying from medicines made with anti-freeze. Now I cannot source that because it has been so long but it does have a ring of truth because I have seen so many other cases where businesses cut corners just for profit.

It’s true. It was during Prohibition, and it was being used in the making of a “tonic” which could be legally sold. The seller was able to avoid any legal penalty because they had properly labelled what was in it, even though it was toxic. If you want I’ll look up the details (I have a book which talks about it, as well as other things which led to the establishment of forensic science in the US.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
12 years ago

I probably have the same book somewhere in my disorganized mess of a collection. Let one roommate move into your library…

But if you want to give me the name, I am happy to read it since I like quirky American history.

katz
12 years ago

Lauralot: Oh great, now I’m imagining DKM coming and crushing our feet with sledgehammers.

Pecunium
12 years ago

PFKAE: The Poisoner’s Bible.

zhinxy
zhinxy
12 years ago

How about repealing import restrictions,

I’m not even for the legitimacy of borders, so, okay…

Do you just have a “democraticy lefty soundy make assumptions script thingy” you play, even if you know you’re talking to another libertarian?

I’m not even going to talk to you about the rise of government progressivism, the new right, sloanist mass production, and managerialist liberalism, it’s pros and cons and myths and realities, and how it relates to feminism or no,* until you read some serious writing on the subject PUBLISHED IN THIS CENTURY. These are not “feminist books,” and rarely even touch on feminism. What they do is give a fascinating overview of what happened and how we got here, and talk about how and why to fix it. Without conspiracy theory. Without sexism. Without racism. (Gatto especially lays beautiful waste to the bell curve)

You have many assumptions about mass production, wage labor, factory science, and etc that are unquestioned assumptions from the very “farm to factory” move that was made, and the social engineering by left and right that took place. As a libertarian, your being out of touch with current technology and modern scholarship is one of the few things about you that you might be able to fix. (For example, you claimed that gold had “some exotic scientific use” – when gold is consumed more, and more and MORE due to the rise of solid state devices – THERE’S GOLD IN THEM THERE CALCULATORS! – this has great effect on arguments about it as consumable vs. money good. )

Kevin Carson – The Homebrew Industrial Revolution

http://homebrewindustrialrevolution.wordpress.com/

John Taylor Gatto –

http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/

The Underground History of American Education.

Gatto has touches of an old fashioned somewhat paleocon gentleman about him, Carson is a full throttle mutualist taking on the world. Both their books are free online .

You can do it, Meller! You give people reading lists ALL THE TIME! So read!

*Suffice to say for the very simplest of simplifications, that good intentions can have bad consequences, and so much of left and right and center were all played by power-seekers, social engineers, and business interests. It sucked. It is fascinating historically. It’s also time to move on.

zhinxy
zhinxy
12 years ago

Pecunium – Thankyou for the title!

(I better get that kindle for christmas, reading list is getting insane!)

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Zhinxi–and what happens when your “interlocking local watchdog groups, consumer protection agencies (like the “Better Business Bureau funded by the local chamber of commerce–i.e. local profiteers–and not with evil government) are similarly taken over, or just as likely, you and your comrades “over-regulate” and drive legitimate and honest producers away, either overseas, or into bankruptcy court?

Who are her comrades? o_O

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Aw, Meller, does it upset you that people realize that you basically have your hand down your pants every time you talk about how women will be enslaved in the golden future that is Mellortopia? Did you think we wouldn’t notice?

zhinxy
zhinxy
12 years ago

Just a note, meller, I will still talk to you about other things, but I will not talk to you about the rise of the new right, the progressivist movement, mass production, or public schooling et al, or what may or may not have been women’s role in it until you read those. Because I’ve read all the books you’ve reced on the subject so far already, and scholarship has moved on. I’m not going to argue with the ghost of libertarianism past. And they are freely available.

And seriously, who are my comrades?

Lauralot
Lauralot
12 years ago

@katz:

I don’t know if this is more or less creepy, but it just occurred to me that DKM really has more in common with Dolores Umbridge than Annie Wilkes. Both collect “cute” things, both think the world should be censored to their agenda, and both put forth a sickly-sweet persona to hide their seriously messed up ideas.

Kave
Kave
12 years ago

Nope David K Meller… that was totally you.

Kave
Kave
12 years ago

If not why would that jackass say “Hello I’m David K Meller”???????

P.S I wasn’t wearing a t.shirt saying I was a Man boobz feminist.

Pecunium
12 years ago

Correction: The Poisoner’s Handbook.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
12 years ago

Thanks Pecunium.