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Hole lotta hate

Be thankful you live in a world that also contains things like this.

Though Thanksgiving is over, I’m still thinking about all the things I’m thankful for. I’m thankful that so many fine people have made this blog a kind of online home. I’m thankful for the steady stream of trolls that keep us all so busy.  I’m thankful for friends, and kitties, and Netflix streaming, and the delicious Thanksgiving buffet I gorged on yesterday. I’m thankful I’m nowhere near a mall today. I could go on and on.

But instead I’ll just point out that I’m extra, especially, really really super-duper thankful I’m not this guy, as happily “single [and] free” as he claims to be. Or one of the 42 bitter assholes on The Spearhead who upvoted this comment of his:

I was going to limit my usage of women to that of a nice meat hole, but I concluded even that is too risky. Now I try to avoid western women altogether. Decades of child support can ruin a man’s life. STDs can ruin a man’s life. A False rape claim can ruin a man’s life. Also, women have disproportionate support from the courts and law enforcement thanks to traitorous manginas. Nearly every man I know who is living with a wife or gf is miserable. Nearly every man I know who does not have a wife or gf has a higher quality of life-or at least appears to be happier. From my observations, men’s quality of life usually decreases after long stints in relationships.

I will stay single, stay free, and live alone.

I am pretty sure that the “meat holes” of the world are even more happy about this last bit than you are.

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PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
13 years ago

Compare the size and scope of government in the USA, or any other country today, with the way it was when women first got the vote.

Maybe we should not tell DKM about Theodore Roosevelt who wanted to expand the power of government (and did) well before women got the vote. Or the rest of the Progressive movement.

KathleenB
KathleenB
13 years ago

Broseidon: Has anyone here said that their opinions represent those of the population as a whole? I doubt it. In fact, I seem to recall lots of people saying things like ‘this is only my opinion,’ and ‘your mileage may vary.’

darksidecat
darksidecat
13 years ago

zhinxy, your question about reading confuses the Meller. Meller does not think girls should be allowed to read at all, so it is a trick question to ask him what they should read.

zhinxy
13 years ago

Maybe we should not tell DKM about Theodore Roosevelt who wanted to expand the power of government (and did) well before women got the vote. Or the rest of the Progressive movement.”

If they had been women, they would have been even MORE big government, though. A man’s big governmentism is limited by his man-ness, just as a woman’s anarchism or libertarianism or small government liberalism or whatever is hampered by her woman-ness.

(And no, you don’t wanna know what Rand would have been like as a MAN! )

Also, if the state is not an essential feature of humankind, how can either gender be more or less statist? It’s like that “republican brain” vs. “democrat brain” nonsense. Because we’re totally wired for political categories that existed for SO LONG in our evolutionary history…

Jules
Jules
13 years ago

So am I correct in my understanding that Meller has actual dolls and apparently finds them sexually arousing?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Wait, won’t women need to be able to read in order to read cookbooks? Or are those going to just have pictures now?

KathleenB
KathleenB
13 years ago

darksidecat: Meller has told me that I need to stop reading ‘girly’ crap and start reading Real Books ™ – pre approved by Meller, of course.

zhinxy
13 years ago

zhinxy, your question about reading confuses the Meller. Meller does not think girls should be allowed to read at all, so it is a trick question to ask him what they should read.

I love how he grudgingly acknowledges it’s better than the crap she’ll read at public school, but he doesn’t know how it will affect her, I mean, she’s a GIRL, it’s gonna go right through her head.

Well, I am gonna make her read marx too. Who knows what I’m creating!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

I would refuse to let an impressionable child read Rand, not because of the ideas, but because they might mistakenly assume that her writing style was something to be imitated, and then all of their future college professors would hate me.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
13 years ago

And no, you don’t wanna know what Rand would have been like as a MAN!

Presumably just as overbearing and arrogant? And less weaselly about screwing around on his spouse?

zhinxy
13 years ago

Cassandrasays – There’s so many reasons, really… Keep Kids Off Rand!

Jules – So am I correct in my understanding that Meller has actual dolls and apparently finds them sexually arousing?

Yes. He has also mentioned special masturbatory techniques.

Jules
Jules
13 years ago

Huh. Ok, then.

Molly Ren
13 years ago

DKM wrote,

“I said that both fascinating womanhood and the surrendered wife were geared more to traditional Christian women (and their families) than others. I said that a more secular reader had to pick and choose ideas and advice that would be valid for HER. I didn’t say focus on the first somewhat goofy thing that you saw and then babble on to each other as if they (Andelin or Doyle) said nothing better!

“There is no reason for example, why atheistic women, or plump women, for that matter, could not benefit from their wise counsel Who knows, you may even find a man who fancies Rubenesque ladies, and who is not all that fussy when it comes to impeccable neatness! There is NO reason at all why a pair of atheists can not love one anther and see their union as blessed, that is, as the most important thing in their lives, even if they don’t believe in G-d!

“The matter of anxiety, bad temper, and perfectionism in the character of women who try to hard to assume the masculine role in the home and in life is common enough, with enough people, to damage a large number of relationships, married or not. If the price of “equality” is the loss of femininity and its allure and charm, then many men consider the price too high! You don’t have to be fundamentalist Christian (or Muslim, Jewish, or anything else) to understand this. TSW and/or FW can help you relax and enjoy life (and your womanhood) whether you are Christian or not, and for that matter, whether you are “pleasingly plump” or not!”

So what Meller’s really objecting to is that feminism makes women… perpetually crabby? That’s it?

Molly Ren
13 years ago

Also, I’m with Bee: I’m also in the camp of people who don’t *ever* want to raise kids. I’d rather write or own a business. But I also tend to think of housecleaning and kid raising as a HUMAN thing, rather than a female thing… one of the people who most *wants* to raise kids in my social circle is a guy!

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
13 years ago

Well cranky people are kind of hard to deal with.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

And this is yet another reason why Meller can’t find the fluffy slave of his dreams – he’s just too crabby (and too shouty).

Be more fluffy and cute, Meller! The man-bots with the kitty ears that will replace you are waiting in the wings if you do not comply.

Molly Ren
13 years ago

It’s just… we’re treated to pages and pages of how we’re not being womanly enough, cute enough, fluffy enough, and then he just talks about how *grumpy* we are?

zhinxy
13 years ago

Nevertheless, the dubious legal status of prostitutes (and sometimes even strippers or party girls) in many areas make this a high risk activity for many men!

… See the thing is Meller, I’m an ally who works for Sex Worker’s Rights, which are human rights. That means listening to what sex workers want and need. It means putting the voices of non-sex-workers last, and the words of men wanting “discreet” dead last. The thing is, your “non-marriageable women in the brothels” thing is not why I want to decriminalize sex work. Also, why can’t a sex worker or party girl BE a housewife?

Horror of horrors! I know!

…Seriously how much libertarianism are you actually familiar with if you’re so fussy and brothel-model about a simple thing like sex work? Much less that you think coercion.. NO NO, SORRY, NOT COERCION… just magically her family puts her there! is going to be involved.

Why is it that in just about every measure of “things you know and are familiar with if you are a libertarian who actually does anything, as opposed to posting on the internet about how feminism sucks and ron paul is great” you don’t seem all that on it? No knowledge of the leftist anti-war movement? No sense of the sex worker’s rights movement? No idea of the urban homesteading and greening movements? List goes on and on.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

I didn’t notice that. Being a party girl is dubiously legal? Um, maybe in Saudi Arabia…

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Ithilliana: I think leaving it to beaver is against everything Meller stands for. *rimshot*

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
13 years ago

The Progressive movement, Prohibition, Greenbackism, and later Free Silver,feminism (the sufferage movement) and eugenics (Margaret Sanger of Planned Parenthood fame) and Theodore R were not all explicitly feminist, but there is little doubt of a close and sustained association. To say that Progressivism would never have existed without feminism is probably stretching things a bit, but it would be foolish indeed to ignore how political women accelerated the growth of government, both on the Federal level, and on State and local levels.

This doesn’t PROVE that women are inherently collectivist, but it certainly doesn’t disprove it either! The embryonic “Publik skoolz” movement, prohibition, women’s sufferage, eugenics, with Planned Parenthood, and the anti-immigrant and anti-Catholic movements of the day weren’t exclusively feminist by any means, but to say that women didn’t have a large, growing, and decisive role in their growth and metastizing of this abominable collectivism upon the American economy and culture in both Church (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant) and State, as WOMEN, would totally distort the history of the period! If American women(?) didn’t cause ‘progressivism’ in all of its horrid reality–and I’m not only talking votes and officeholding here–they did nothing to stop it!

zhinxy
13 years ago

Why are so few men libertarians? Seriously, why is our movement so tiny?

zhinxy
13 years ago

If men naturally desire liberty, why aren’t our ranks swollen? Sure, we’re “mostly men” I guess, but why so few men?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Aw, is the angry dinosaur upset again?

Progressivism is a good thing, Meller. It’s just not good for you, since as mentioned you are a dinosaur. In 100 years or so people will look back and marvel at the fact that men like you ever existed. And then they’ll bless progress for the fact that the rest of the world eventually moved beyond such archaic nonsense.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
13 years ago

Oddly enough DKM is ignoring why women got involved in things like the Progressive movement. Or the temperance movement.