Manosphere dudes – MRAs, MGTOWers, PUAs and whatever other acronyms they will eventually invent – love to tell themselves little “just so” stories about women. One of their favorite stories is the story of the Bad Boy Cock Carousel.
The gist of it: Women in their twenties are at the height of their physical beauty. So they act like entitled bitches, sleeping with every Bad Boy and Alpha Asshole there is and ignoring the humble, honest, hardworking “nice guy” betas silently pining for them.
But once these mean girls hit the age of 27 or so, they suddenly become ugly monsters, and the bad boys stop returning their calls. So then the evil ladies try to glom on to the nearest beta male in an attempt to marry him and steal all of his money.
But the beta males don’t want none of that used-up pussy, and so they Go Their Own Way and everyone ends up forever alone. Or the guys learn “game” and start banging the hotties. Or they just go back to posting sammich jokes on Reddit. I think these are all supposed to be happy endings, because at least the evil bitches get their comeuppance.
Recently, someone posted a n especially creepy version of this Manosphere fairy tale in the comments here; it turned out to have been cut and pasted from a comment on Roissy/Heartiste’s “game” blog by a guy who calls himself PhillyBoy81. It’s long; I trimmed it a little for space.
“[A]lpha males” are doing all the rest of us a favor in the long run. They operate very much like short sellers in the dating market, exposing fraud and helping to discover the true prices of commodities (women).
Yep, we’re on the express train to Doucheytown.
Let’s take a 21-year old chick who’s between a 7/8 (cute to pretty. … She can pretty much get sex whenever she wants it and with whomever she wants to have it with. And that is ultimately her downfall.
Young women (and some older ones) have an overinflated sense of the value of their vaginas. I mean, they have Wharton MBAs paying for exotic trips and they’re drinking Cosmos in the VIP with the Wizards.
Apparently this is just how women in their early twenties live. Who knew?
Since they are able to get such easy access to “alpha” dick, it follows logically that they should also have access to “alpha” wealth, marriage, and the lifestyle that accompanies all of that, right?
Wrong. See, when women gain this enormous sense of pussy power, they swing for the fences. … So, the cute guy with a 3.8 GPA, but no car? Nope, not good enough. The nice-looking pre-med student? “Nah, I’ll just get back to him later. I heard Jude Law’s hotter brother is transferring here this semester.”
This had me worried for a second, but I looked it up: Jude Law does not have a “hotter brother,” or indeed a brother at all, which is good news for all straight men of equal or lesser hotness than Jude Law.
Anyway, back to the evil women:
They invariably end up overplaying their hand. They chase these players looking to get a ring, and then that ring never comes. So now they’re 27. It’s a good thing she kept that pre-med Johns Hopkins student in her back pocket just in case things didn’t work out with the player, right?
Wrong again. In a vacuum, women would have their way. Men beg for sex. Women decide whether to give it to them (and for most guys, they will not give it to you). But luckily, we don’t live in a vacuum. We live in the real world with social constraints, and there are two that work distinctly to a man’s advantage: reputation and age. …
Ladies don’t think … we won’t remember your bitchiness. And don’t think we won’t remember those guys who you ran behind like a cum bucket.
Hmm. I’m pretty sure the only place buckets are gifted with mobility is in old Disney cartoons.
We remember. And we punish.
When a man sleeps with 100 chicks, he’s a stud. When a woman sleeps with JUST ONE guy, that eliminates you as wifey material to ALL of his friends. …
Apparently penises have a sort of reverse-Midas Touch thing going on: every woman who touches one turns into a filthy, used-up slut.
The height of a woman’s value, in terms of her value as a long term partner, is around the age of 27. That is the praecipice. The older she gets, the more her singlehood gets scrutinized by men. Why the hell is she still single? Who’s cock has she been sucking all these years?
Clearly that is the first question every straight man should ask himself whenever he sees a single woman older than the age of 27. (Just make sure you don’t actually ask this question out loud; it doesn’t go over well.)
[L]et’s face it, what virile, successful bachelor wants to entertain a 29 or 30 year old as wifey potential. She’s going to want to become a baby factory right away and rip away the last vestiges of your freedom. I don’t think so. It’s now my time to swing for the fences and bang some of these 21 year olds that I couldn’t bang in college.
Hello creepy older dude lurking in the shadows at the frat party!
In conclusion, a woman’s value is really defined by the type of man who puts a ring on her finger, not the type of guy who will fuck her. It takes a lot of women a long time to understand this, and thus, they overplay their hand. If it wasn’t for the players dogging them out, these women would not get a sense of their true value and start to seek out men who fit within their price range.
It’s all about market equilibrium, yo! SCIENCE!
So that’s the story. It’s a stupid story. It’s not a true story. But it’s the story that manosphere dudes, like young children, want to hear over and over and over.
But I haven’t even gotten to the best part. Our pal MarkyMark, an excitable and somewhat addled Man Going His Own Way, reposted PhillyBoy81’s comment on his blog. In the comments there (as Man Boobz commenter Wetherby pointed out) we find this little gem:
A man is not being respected if the woman he is with has spent her youth, beauty and fertility on someone else.
Yep, that’s right. I’m just going to repeat that, because, wow.
A man is not being respected if the woman he is with has spent her youth, beauty and fertility on someone else.
All women older than 27 or so who date or marry men are disrespecting these men because … they are older than 27. Apparently women age out of spite. Maturation is misandry!
People, stop debating with Whatever! He studied porn, and hentai, and Game of the Throne!
Lol. Most human reactions are never, or only in a very very simplistic way, depicted in porn.
Anyway, since none of us were trying to have sex with you at this moment, I really don’t see the problem.
Anyway, whatever, have you considered the possibility that people *can* get better at sex with experience?
And since my answer wasn’t clear enough the first time apparently: yes, porn actress will look older with time, but it’s because they get older, not because they had sex. And the process is the same for men.
Wait… I thought it was the opposite? Wait, no, that’s only true is she stays with the same guy. But… I thought his penis was getting bigger? So how will she ever shape herself on his penis if he keep changing?
“Bah humbug, there are more things in heaven and earth than exists in your philosophy.”
What, like women who’ve had multiple partners in the past and yet manage to love their current one?
Japan also has a fetish in which guys fuck their little sisters. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying the fetish, but acting as if it accurately reflects real life in any way is…… problematic.
Oh also if I was with a male partner long-term, and his body started to change as it aged, I probably wouldn’t react with scorn. FWIW.
Hmm, good point. This definitely requires further study, beginning with an immediate review of previously-read material 😛
They are not part of our actual reality. Even if that theory was accurate, they are not real to our reality. They are fake.
There are plenty of examples from the real world to use even if they were from 475 years ago.
“What, like women who’ve had multiple partners in the past and yet manage to love their current one.”
If you’ll be bothered to check my previous post, I said it was a problem people CAN have, not WILL have.
Well, they’re real enough to me 😀
Nothing if you want to illustrate your point, everything if you try to prove something or convince someone.
“I said it was a problem people CAN have, not WILL have.”
And yet you continue to argue the point to death including Japanese fetish porn and many-worlds theory as examples, in order to prove what? That this problem people CAN have is a reason to shun all women who’ve had multiple partners because they’re somehow damaged goods?
Get real.
In certain number of the many circles I regularly frequent, GoT is gospel.
I am sorry you cannot distinguished between fiction and reality. 🙁
“Whatever”‘s me-so-wacky schtick is almost as boring as The Brandon Show Starring Brandon.
I wish we had more trolls who understand that “brevity is the soul of wit” business.
Actually, each of my current posts addresses only the most recent reply. So, whatever point I had in post 1 is no longer the point I have in post 10 or whatever. I live in the moment, you know.
Well, since you’re not entertained, my life has no more meaning … NOT! Hah, as a manly man, I troll only for my own amusement, nobody else’s 😛
Whatever, I love Game of Throne, that’s just don’t mean I believe it’s the same thing as the reality.
And if you say a crazy/offensive thing then later another one, that doesn’t mean we have to pretend to forget you believe crazy/offensive thing number 1. Unless you’ve said you know believe otherwise.
Whatever is Scott Adams. Has to be-he also claims to live only in the Now.
Brandon, is that you?
I’ve lost count of women I’ve dated. I’ve had two failed marriages. My girlfriend has had one failed marriage and at least 2 boyfriends that I know of.
Are we supposed to be bitter and resentful of each other?
I mean really, my first choice was when I was in the 4th grade!
Edward Cullen, is that you?
Viscaria is not a 100 year old glittery vampire. Duly noted.
The trolls here need to move out of their parent’s basement and interact with real people.
Wa-Wa-Whaa…!
Ja! Hyu need a nize hat!
I love it when people argue to the death, then when they discover they’re losing, claim they were only trolling.
Until GRRM decides to spend another decade on the next book :/
There once was a man called Whatever,
Riling up feminists on the ‘net wherever,
O, but under his desk
Lay an old hentai conquest
“Let go? Haha, I’ll never!”
It’s a guy thing, my dear. Frankly, winning or losing, according to the formal rules of debate, doesn’t really matter to me, as long as somebody replies and keeps the discussion flowing 😀 Fighting in any form is real fun for many guys. Why do you think we love to constantly trash-talk each other all the time? Then again most of you are womyn, so I guess you can’t relate, no?
Our new trolls are boring. Where’s NWO with a rant about baby eating illuminati feminist whores? At least that would have a bit of pep.
Also, Ullere, just because you are too boring in general to get much response from me does not mean you racism about Native Americans back there went unnoted. Waaaah, Native Americans aren’t going along with attempts to destroy, by force usingcolonial national power, their traditional kinship structures in favor of those of white people, the hooorrrroooorrr!
Your desperate need for any attention regardless of kind is also worrisome, Whatever. I sincerely hope you get the help you need.
NNOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
That explains religion, but not much about the real world.
At least Tyrian was smart enough to be aware of his environment and the consequences of acting within them, unlike our current troll.