Manosphere dudes – MRAs, MGTOWers, PUAs and whatever other acronyms they will eventually invent – love to tell themselves little “just so” stories about women. One of their favorite stories is the story of the Bad Boy Cock Carousel.
The gist of it: Women in their twenties are at the height of their physical beauty. So they act like entitled bitches, sleeping with every Bad Boy and Alpha Asshole there is and ignoring the humble, honest, hardworking “nice guy” betas silently pining for them.
But once these mean girls hit the age of 27 or so, they suddenly become ugly monsters, and the bad boys stop returning their calls. So then the evil ladies try to glom on to the nearest beta male in an attempt to marry him and steal all of his money.
But the beta males don’t want none of that used-up pussy, and so they Go Their Own Way and everyone ends up forever alone. Or the guys learn “game” and start banging the hotties. Or they just go back to posting sammich jokes on Reddit. I think these are all supposed to be happy endings, because at least the evil bitches get their comeuppance.
Recently, someone posted a n especially creepy version of this Manosphere fairy tale in the comments here; it turned out to have been cut and pasted from a comment on Roissy/Heartiste’s “game” blog by a guy who calls himself PhillyBoy81. It’s long; I trimmed it a little for space.
“[A]lpha males” are doing all the rest of us a favor in the long run. They operate very much like short sellers in the dating market, exposing fraud and helping to discover the true prices of commodities (women).
Yep, we’re on the express train to Doucheytown.
Let’s take a 21-year old chick who’s between a 7/8 (cute to pretty. … She can pretty much get sex whenever she wants it and with whomever she wants to have it with. And that is ultimately her downfall.
Young women (and some older ones) have an overinflated sense of the value of their vaginas. I mean, they have Wharton MBAs paying for exotic trips and they’re drinking Cosmos in the VIP with the Wizards.
Apparently this is just how women in their early twenties live. Who knew?
Since they are able to get such easy access to “alpha” dick, it follows logically that they should also have access to “alpha” wealth, marriage, and the lifestyle that accompanies all of that, right?
Wrong. See, when women gain this enormous sense of pussy power, they swing for the fences. … So, the cute guy with a 3.8 GPA, but no car? Nope, not good enough. The nice-looking pre-med student? “Nah, I’ll just get back to him later. I heard Jude Law’s hotter brother is transferring here this semester.”
This had me worried for a second, but I looked it up: Jude Law does not have a “hotter brother,” or indeed a brother at all, which is good news for all straight men of equal or lesser hotness than Jude Law.
Anyway, back to the evil women:
They invariably end up overplaying their hand. They chase these players looking to get a ring, and then that ring never comes. So now they’re 27. It’s a good thing she kept that pre-med Johns Hopkins student in her back pocket just in case things didn’t work out with the player, right?
Wrong again. In a vacuum, women would have their way. Men beg for sex. Women decide whether to give it to them (and for most guys, they will not give it to you). But luckily, we don’t live in a vacuum. We live in the real world with social constraints, and there are two that work distinctly to a man’s advantage: reputation and age. …
Ladies don’t think … we won’t remember your bitchiness. And don’t think we won’t remember those guys who you ran behind like a cum bucket.
Hmm. I’m pretty sure the only place buckets are gifted with mobility is in old Disney cartoons.
We remember. And we punish.
When a man sleeps with 100 chicks, he’s a stud. When a woman sleeps with JUST ONE guy, that eliminates you as wifey material to ALL of his friends. …
Apparently penises have a sort of reverse-Midas Touch thing going on: every woman who touches one turns into a filthy, used-up slut.
The height of a woman’s value, in terms of her value as a long term partner, is around the age of 27. That is the praecipice. The older she gets, the more her singlehood gets scrutinized by men. Why the hell is she still single? Who’s cock has she been sucking all these years?
Clearly that is the first question every straight man should ask himself whenever he sees a single woman older than the age of 27. (Just make sure you don’t actually ask this question out loud; it doesn’t go over well.)
[L]et’s face it, what virile, successful bachelor wants to entertain a 29 or 30 year old as wifey potential. She’s going to want to become a baby factory right away and rip away the last vestiges of your freedom. I don’t think so. It’s now my time to swing for the fences and bang some of these 21 year olds that I couldn’t bang in college.
Hello creepy older dude lurking in the shadows at the frat party!
In conclusion, a woman’s value is really defined by the type of man who puts a ring on her finger, not the type of guy who will fuck her. It takes a lot of women a long time to understand this, and thus, they overplay their hand. If it wasn’t for the players dogging them out, these women would not get a sense of their true value and start to seek out men who fit within their price range.
It’s all about market equilibrium, yo! SCIENCE!
So that’s the story. It’s a stupid story. It’s not a true story. But it’s the story that manosphere dudes, like young children, want to hear over and over and over.
But I haven’t even gotten to the best part. Our pal MarkyMark, an excitable and somewhat addled Man Going His Own Way, reposted PhillyBoy81’s comment on his blog. In the comments there (as Man Boobz commenter Wetherby pointed out) we find this little gem:
A man is not being respected if the woman he is with has spent her youth, beauty and fertility on someone else.
Yep, that’s right. I’m just going to repeat that, because, wow.
A man is not being respected if the woman he is with has spent her youth, beauty and fertility on someone else.
All women older than 27 or so who date or marry men are disrespecting these men because … they are older than 27. Apparently women age out of spite. Maturation is misandry!
Doyourownresearch: You need to work on your Game. Because that weak-ass negging isn’t going to get you anywhere with the ladies, the guys are gonna laugh.
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LOL at doyourownresearch. Seriously, man, is “you’re ugly” the best you have to offer? I am disappoint, son.
*coffs modestly* My avatar is also a pic of me.
SNAKES IN THE MOTHERFUCKING HAIR SUCKA! Deal with it.
*preens*
No one is negging anybody, that would imply I’m attracted… pleeease Lol 🙂
Oooh! Oooh! What does Doyourownresearch think about me? Here is a pic! Be aware, I have attracted a high quality of hater in my time. I doubt you will reach “Auschwitz pussy” levels of sublimity. But that’s no reasn you can’t try for it, friendly little troll.
Doyourown: It’s ok. You can admit it, we won’t judge you.
Talking to doyourownresearch is like the Alliance trying to talk to the Horde. No matter what you say, you just have no idea what he’s going to hear.
Lol I have to admit you chunky women are funny. You should not hate men it’s not good for your health.
Are all you cupcakes over the age of 40? The reason why I’m asking is because I like the older ladies but I need attraction, is that so bad? Is that so hard to understand?
I seems you people get upset when men have options. Get over it.
Anonymouse: I’m a man. I have options. I like women. You, not so much.
Then again, I’ve not found women hating me,or “men” as a class, there are some individual men; perhaps yourself who have earned their opprobrium. You should really stop projecting your lacks onto women. It’s not good for your health. It seems you get upset whem women excercise their options (such as not trying to cater to your personal sense of what’s attractive).
You should just accept it, and move on, cupcake.
So Doyourownresearch has interpreted the responses he’s gotten as evidence that we – women all, apparently – are upset that he won’t sleep with us. I am devastated, myself.
Also, why do all these guys just assume we’re 40? Coulda sworn there were more than 3 25-and-under feminists around…
Because apparently being over 40 is the worst thing ever in the world and if you are over 40 you should be ashamed of yourself for being subject to time?
I’m nineteen!
Also, chunky? The only pics he’s seen are of me and Ami, and both of us are very much on the skinny side. I mean, don’t get me wrong, chubby ladies are awesome, but if he thinks we’re chunky I shudder to think what he considers acceptably slender.
You guys are fat! You guys are old! You guys are ugly!
Worst troll ever.
I’m fat and fifty-six and fantastic.
Also: love alliteration.
And I don’t give a fuck about whether or not men want to have sex with me or not because I gave up on them in 1982. Women all the way!
Ozy, I think he just saw my icon and thought that was what we all looked like. It’s completely accurate! 😉
Why does no one ever consider that we might all be bronze lions? >:(
Chunky? Unacceptable. Hey I don’t mind a little thickness on my ladies, I’m not that strict.
The last FWB, she was 24y/o size 5 weighed about 110lbs, man do I love beautiful women. I’m not sure why you insist on judging me on my options, stop trying to control someone’s behavior. A bunch of control freaks that’s what I see.
Anyways, carry on.
We’re not demanding that you fuck fatties, Doyourownresearch. We’re wondering why you’re acting like the fact that you don’t find us attractive is some kind of insult. Most of us already have our own partners, jobs and lives, ya know?
Hey, dude, if you want to go play in your all-male LAN party treehouse go ahead. If it’s a private event, no one cares.
As to the “you’re ugly! and also fat!” derail – care to provide pics of yourself? Because unless I find you attractive I don’t care whether or not you find me attractive. In your case, you’d be unfuckable due to personality defects even if you were good looking, I’m just curious about how delusional you are.
Ozy, were you the Phantom of the Opera for Halloween?
The thing about women and fear in public spaces, esp. after dark is that you can’t win. If they respond with caution, as they have been told to do, then they are “paranoid” and “man-hating”. If they respond with boldness and doing what the fuck they want, they are “emasculating”, “man hating”, and “not taking proper precautions” (women who are raped by strangers, a slim minority of rapes, are often blamed as not being cautious enough). If a woman doesn’t drink because she fears a man might rape her when she is drunk is a paranoid bitch. If a woman does drink, she is seen as “asking for it” when someone assaults or rapes her. There is a social double bind here for women that there isn’t for men.
Doyourownresearch, I’m going to suggest that you read this a couple of times so that it really sinks in: nobody here cares who you have sex with. Really. Really. As long as it’s consensual, go to it.
We’re also not concerned if you find us attractive, because nobody here is trying to sleep with you.
Doyourownreasearch is the worst troll ever. Try harder, cupcake.
stop trying to control someone’s behavior. A bunch of control freaks that’s what I see.
This from the guy who was telling women what to do/believe?
The Irony, it is rich.