Manosphere dudes – MRAs, MGTOWers, PUAs and whatever other acronyms they will eventually invent – love to tell themselves little “just so” stories about women. One of their favorite stories is the story of the Bad Boy Cock Carousel.
The gist of it: Women in their twenties are at the height of their physical beauty. So they act like entitled bitches, sleeping with every Bad Boy and Alpha Asshole there is and ignoring the humble, honest, hardworking “nice guy” betas silently pining for them.
But once these mean girls hit the age of 27 or so, they suddenly become ugly monsters, and the bad boys stop returning their calls. So then the evil ladies try to glom on to the nearest beta male in an attempt to marry him and steal all of his money.
But the beta males don’t want none of that used-up pussy, and so they Go Their Own Way and everyone ends up forever alone. Or the guys learn “game” and start banging the hotties. Or they just go back to posting sammich jokes on Reddit. I think these are all supposed to be happy endings, because at least the evil bitches get their comeuppance.
Recently, someone posted a n especially creepy version of this Manosphere fairy tale in the comments here; it turned out to have been cut and pasted from a comment on Roissy/Heartiste’s “game” blog by a guy who calls himself PhillyBoy81. It’s long; I trimmed it a little for space.
“[A]lpha males” are doing all the rest of us a favor in the long run. They operate very much like short sellers in the dating market, exposing fraud and helping to discover the true prices of commodities (women).
Yep, we’re on the express train to Doucheytown.
Let’s take a 21-year old chick who’s between a 7/8 (cute to pretty. … She can pretty much get sex whenever she wants it and with whomever she wants to have it with. And that is ultimately her downfall.
Young women (and some older ones) have an overinflated sense of the value of their vaginas. I mean, they have Wharton MBAs paying for exotic trips and they’re drinking Cosmos in the VIP with the Wizards.
Apparently this is just how women in their early twenties live. Who knew?
Since they are able to get such easy access to “alpha” dick, it follows logically that they should also have access to “alpha” wealth, marriage, and the lifestyle that accompanies all of that, right?
Wrong. See, when women gain this enormous sense of pussy power, they swing for the fences. … So, the cute guy with a 3.8 GPA, but no car? Nope, not good enough. The nice-looking pre-med student? “Nah, I’ll just get back to him later. I heard Jude Law’s hotter brother is transferring here this semester.”
This had me worried for a second, but I looked it up: Jude Law does not have a “hotter brother,” or indeed a brother at all, which is good news for all straight men of equal or lesser hotness than Jude Law.
Anyway, back to the evil women:
They invariably end up overplaying their hand. They chase these players looking to get a ring, and then that ring never comes. So now they’re 27. It’s a good thing she kept that pre-med Johns Hopkins student in her back pocket just in case things didn’t work out with the player, right?
Wrong again. In a vacuum, women would have their way. Men beg for sex. Women decide whether to give it to them (and for most guys, they will not give it to you). But luckily, we don’t live in a vacuum. We live in the real world with social constraints, and there are two that work distinctly to a man’s advantage: reputation and age. …
Ladies don’t think … we won’t remember your bitchiness. And don’t think we won’t remember those guys who you ran behind like a cum bucket.
Hmm. I’m pretty sure the only place buckets are gifted with mobility is in old Disney cartoons.
We remember. And we punish.
When a man sleeps with 100 chicks, he’s a stud. When a woman sleeps with JUST ONE guy, that eliminates you as wifey material to ALL of his friends. …
Apparently penises have a sort of reverse-Midas Touch thing going on: every woman who touches one turns into a filthy, used-up slut.
The height of a woman’s value, in terms of her value as a long term partner, is around the age of 27. That is the praecipice. The older she gets, the more her singlehood gets scrutinized by men. Why the hell is she still single? Who’s cock has she been sucking all these years?
Clearly that is the first question every straight man should ask himself whenever he sees a single woman older than the age of 27. (Just make sure you don’t actually ask this question out loud; it doesn’t go over well.)
[L]et’s face it, what virile, successful bachelor wants to entertain a 29 or 30 year old as wifey potential. She’s going to want to become a baby factory right away and rip away the last vestiges of your freedom. I don’t think so. It’s now my time to swing for the fences and bang some of these 21 year olds that I couldn’t bang in college.
Hello creepy older dude lurking in the shadows at the frat party!
In conclusion, a woman’s value is really defined by the type of man who puts a ring on her finger, not the type of guy who will fuck her. It takes a lot of women a long time to understand this, and thus, they overplay their hand. If it wasn’t for the players dogging them out, these women would not get a sense of their true value and start to seek out men who fit within their price range.
It’s all about market equilibrium, yo! SCIENCE!
So that’s the story. It’s a stupid story. It’s not a true story. But it’s the story that manosphere dudes, like young children, want to hear over and over and over.
But I haven’t even gotten to the best part. Our pal MarkyMark, an excitable and somewhat addled Man Going His Own Way, reposted PhillyBoy81’s comment on his blog. In the comments there (as Man Boobz commenter Wetherby pointed out) we find this little gem:
A man is not being respected if the woman he is with has spent her youth, beauty and fertility on someone else.
Yep, that’s right. I’m just going to repeat that, because, wow.
A man is not being respected if the woman he is with has spent her youth, beauty and fertility on someone else.
All women older than 27 or so who date or marry men are disrespecting these men because … they are older than 27. Apparently women age out of spite. Maturation is misandry!
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See how simple everything is!
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yes it does simplify things when you discount half of the human race! except then you’ll just find someone else who has physical differences from you to blame when life isn’t 100% awesome all the time, non-white men probably, no amount of hate will make hateful people happy.
BTW, are women allowed to marry and have sex with women in mellertopia?
@Whatever: Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.
BTW, are women allowed to marry and have sex with women in mellertopia?
Oh sure they are, they just won’t because magic.
Seriously, every time someone asks Meller why the hell people would go along with his master plan, his answer is basically “They just would!”
*grabs two porcelain dolls, clacks them together a couple times*
Huh, how would that even work? Who would be the human in that “relationship”? Let’s be honest, that’s a silly question realistically but it’s a fun mind twister! Like the sound of one hand clapping, or if two trees fall together in a forest is that a marriage?
*clacks dolls again, frowns at them in thoughtful confusion*
>>I play console rpgs for the plot.
Do you like porn for the plot too? Because quite frankly, the level of writing for both is about on the same level
Stop clacking the the doll, porcelain is fragile and you will break them! Which means that when ladies try to marry, they die.
On an earlier thread, DKM was talking about how awesome it would be for us lady folk if our daddies went out to find us husbands we would have no choice but to marry, so that we would never be forced to go outside without male protection. He seemed to be okay with lesbian arranged “marriages” (scare-quotes his). Doesn’t really seem to work within the rules of his little fever-dream, but in Mellerworld Meller makes the rules!
Hey, don’t diss modern pop art. What are you, some kind of elitist? Snob! And Itchy, baby, you’re breaking my heart…not! You know why they say snow was made by a woman? Because no one else would have made it so cold 😀
DKM: But… I don’t want to be a sex worker OR a housewife. I want to write books.
What are you going to do with the old sex workers? o.O
Because no one wrote their name in it with pee?
Viscaria:
Not on Earth, but if she’s doing it because she’s no longer young and hot and has to settle for betas or gimels or dalaths or echs or vins (those are all from the Spanish alphabet, of course), it is.
Bro:
How can you tell?
No really, it’s one thing to say “you had your chance with me and turned me down,” it’s another thing to say “I assume you would have turned me down, had we known each other, and so I’m going to punish you for this thing that happened in my head.” I have no idea how my girlfriend treated guys “like me,” whatever that means in this context, when she was younger, but lousy as my self-esteem is, I don’t assume she would have blown me off based on no evidence whatsoever aside from “women, amirite guys?”
Do you at least concede the possibility of “I fucked and sucked my way through 15 counties [sic], but none of those guys were a match for you, stud”?
BlackBloc:
The meaning of “virgin,” if any, is debatable, but pretty much any definition I can think of that applies to humans and doesn’t involve Richard Branson describes age 20!Hershele. Has experience made me worse in bed? (Well, no, because I’m a dude, but you get the point)
Kollege:
It may well dampen his libido. I wouldn’t say rape is driven by libido exactly, though, so I can’t see dampening it doing more good than harm, but it certainly serves as information if not advice.
Especially since apparently women are old at 27 and sex make you age faster, you’re gonna have many old women in your brothels.
You know, maybe I’m weird, but most of the time when I have casual sex with dudes it’s because they suffer glaring flaws that make them relationship-inappropriate. For instance, being assholes, or not having time for me, or not being someone I can really talk to and have that intellectual connection with, or not being sufficiently pretty.
It seems really weird to me to say that the people I’m having casual sex with are the people I like MORE. If I liked them more, I’d have relationships with them!
Hangon… if all the slutty women are indentured into sex work, then there aren’t nearly enough women to marry all the men. A whole lot of guys are going to be stuck single, and they can go to the sex workers, but that’s really not the same thing as a relationship.
It’s pretty misandrist of DKM to deny men the chance to date around and find someone they love.
Just found out 13 was offered a job making almost as much as I do-does this mean he is no longer beta? He is still overweight, nerdy, extremely shy and I have not seen him since I got him Skyrim by accident.
Holly: Maybe they marry the old women who have left the houses of entertainment? I mean, if you think about it, they’re probably sexually experienced, they’ve saved up a little cash, they have some life experience… a young man could have a worse catch.
In a perfect world I wouldn’t be laughing at his dick so much as I’d be laughing at his goofy expression after I bit said dick off and spat it in his face. Laughing at the dick itself would just be cruel at that point –adding insult to injury and all– though the ER docs are permitted to have a good giggle when he brings the thing in on a baggie of ice and explains himself. People in the ER gotta take laughs when they get them. 🙂
Not all women but why do older women get offended by their value or worthiness?
Usually beautiful women do not get emotional about facts, only the ones who never had such power. This usually applies to hot women not below average. Please do not misunderstand me, I like the older ladies.. but that is it.
Why get angry at mother nature?
Also, when some women are funnier and nicer as they age, they will acquiesce thus having no sexual power like they once had. 😉
To the men who have “experienced women”, by all means, have at it. Who cares?
Why is it that most women have way more options with casual sex when young and not old?
Of course there are exceptions but I don’t know why you American women get so angry? Let it go, are you in your prime? Or do you believe in pretty lies?
And please remember I love sluts. 🙂
We get them. That wouldn’t be one of them though. We’d have to work really hard to make sure he didn’t bleed to death and attempt reattachment of the penis. Putting a whole lot of work into a terrible person actually doesn’t make us laugh and it’s not rare.
There’s also the issue that we wouldn’t know for sure whether it was an attempted rape or a brutal assault by the woman. Neither would the cops.
I hate to get all downer but even fantasies are never that simple. 🙁
Funny, that sounds like something an ugly stupid guy would say.
Why don’t you agree with me like a hot smart man would?
Let me make sure I’ve got this right: In Meller’s ideal world, my choices as a woman would be
1) Marry a man my father picked for me and become his household slave/sex toy OR
2) Go work in a whorehouse?
And if I don’t like either of those, I’m pretty much SOL? And he wonders why we ladies are so reluctant to go along with his world improvement project…
Citation needed.