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100% Mathmatically Accurate! Manosphere blogger Dalrock on slut-shaming

"Kids Love it!" Another claim that is not 100% accurate.

The director of the first Human Centipede film – the one about a psychopathic doctor who sews three unwilling and unwitting captives together mouth-to-anus to make a sort of “centipede” — proudly declared that his film was “100% medically accurate.” That is, he found a  doctor who was willing to say that if one were indeed to create such a centipede, the second and third segments (i.e., people) would be able to survive, provided that you supplemented their rather dismal diet with IV drips to give them the nutrition they were lacking.

This dubious claim to 100% accuracy came to mind today as I perused a post by the blogger who calls himself Dalrock, a manospherian nitwit with a penchant for pseudoscientific defenses of old-fashioned misogyny. In a post with the whimsical title “We are trapped on Slut Island and Traditional Conservatives are our Gilligan,” Dalrock argues that the best “solution” to out-of-wedlock births is some good old-fashioned slut shaming.

Here’s how he breaks down the (imaginary) numbers in a post that is “100% mathematically accurate” – which is to say, not accurate at all:

Assume we are starting off with 100 sluts and 30 alphas/players.  The sluts are happily riding on the alpha carousel.  Now we introduce slut shaming.  It isn’t fully effective of course, but it manages to convince 15 of the would be sluts not to be sluts after all.  This means an additional 15 women are again potentially suitable for marriage.  This directly translates into fewer fatherless children.  This also makes the next round of slut shaming easier.  Instead of having 99 peers eagerly cheering her on her ride, each slut now has 15 happily married women shaming her and only 84 other sluts encouraging her.  After the next round this becomes 30 happily married women shaming the sluts, and only 69 other sluts cheering them on, and so on.  This process continues until all but the most die hard sluts are off the carousel.  You will never discourage them all, but you can do a world better than we are doing today.

Why not shame the fathers as well, while we’re at it? Dalrock explains that this just doesn’t make good mathematical sense:

Start with the same base assumption of 100 sluts and 30 players.  Now apply shame to the players.  Unfortunately shame is less effective on players than it is on sluts, so instead of discouraging 15% of them (4.5) in the first round, it only discourages three of them.  No problem!, says the Gilligan [the social conservative], at least there are now three fewer sluts now that three of the evil alphas have been shamed away, and all without creating any unhappy sluts!  But unfortunately it doesn’t work that way.  The remaining 27 players are more than happy to service the extra sluts.  They are quite maddeningly actually delighted with the new situation.  Even worse, the next round of player shaming is even less effective than the first.  This time only 2 players are discouraged, and one of the other 3 realizes that his player peers are picking up the slack anyway and reopens for business.  This means in net there are still 26 players, more than enough to handle all of the sluts you can throw at them.

Well, there’s no arguing with that!

Seriously, there’s no arguing with that, because it is an imaginary construct with only the most tenuous connection with how things work in the real world. “But … MATH!” doesn’t really work as an argument here, since human beings don’t actually behave according to simplistic mathematical formulas.

Film critic note: While the first Human Centipede film offered little more than a workmanlike treatment of a fantastical idea, the recently released sequel, which details the attempts of a deranged Human Centipede superfan to take human-centipeding to the next level, is actually sort of brilliant. If you like that sort of thing.

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Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

All humans are made of cells, not all cells are human beings NWO xD

Unless you believe they are! 😀 Then NWOrld becomes more interesting! 😀

What are animal rights like in NWOrld btw? o:

Magpie
Magpie
13 years ago

DKM’s dolls probably aren’t dusty. I’ve been thinking about this. He has cats, so he must keep the dolls in a cabinet when he’s not playing with them. Also, went googling for star wars porcelain dolls, but couldn’t find any pics.

Yeah, well, it’s Sunday arvo, what else should I be doing? 😉

firebee
13 years ago

“Women who give up the protection of their families, and embrace a life of dissolution are offered to houses of business where these women’s proclivities and talents are put to the most profitable use,while assuring their safety, cleanliness, and personal livelihood.”

Except for the cleanliness bit — one’s cleanliness is kind of assured not to exist, when working on various bits of machinery — I used to work for a place like that. Used to joke that it was basically adult day care for engineers; out in the middle of nowhere, lots of toys to play with, et cetera. And they did have an excellent safety program.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

NWO, what are your deep thoughts on miscarriages–you know, where the woman’s body rejects the clump of cells? is she a killer then?

Lots of feminists do not want to make abortion legal up until birth, please cite where they do. Late term abortions are very rare and not done for shits and grins.

You are a clump of cells indeed, and a complete waste of carbon.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

I think that I already made a suggestion regarding that possibility. Women who give up the protection of their families, and embrace a life of dissolution are offered to houses of business where these women’s proclivities and talents are put to the most profitable use,while assuring their safety, cleanliness, and personal livelihood.

Nobody will “constrain” or “forbid” them a lifestyle of their choice–and nobody will protect them from its consequences either. They, and other women like them, will be given up to businesses/ agencies whose specialty is the entertainment and the pleasure of men.Virgins are protected, and so are sexually “enterprising” women!

So women who don’t want to live with their families will be forced to become prostitutes. That is what you are saying.

But hellkell, if a woman isn’t a virgin, she’s a slut! THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND!

Molly, what he’s saying is that there is no middle ground between “not wanting to stay at home until you’re married” and “slut (who has a “proclivity” to be a prostitute)” It’s far stronger.

DKM, assuming that we are all libertarians here…who’s going to force women who don’t live with their parents to become prostitutes? Like Holly said, in Libertopia, you’re not the only person with a gun. We all have them.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Ahhh the stupidgirl arguement. Well then lets go back to the time of mongol hordes raping their way across Europe. Aren’t ya glad women are raped?

Um NWO… that’s YOUR logic, not zir’s xD

Zie is saying that according to your logic, this would be true. So the question is…

are YOU glad that those women were raped? xD

Molly Ren
13 years ago

Magpie: He always leaves before we can ask him the really important questions!

Hey, peeps, I just realized: DKM JUST GAVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT A “FLUFFY” WOMAN SHOULD BE! Geisha dolls!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

” think that I already made a suggestion regarding that possibility. Women who give up the protection of their families, and embrace a life of dissolution are offered to houses of business where these women’s proclivities and talents are put to the most profitable use,while assuring their safety, cleanliness, and personal livelihood.”

You’re literally unable to even contemplate a world in which women make decisions for themselves and aren’t property to be handed from one person/agency to another, aren’t you?

“Everyone is happy!!”

Well, everyone except women who don’t like the idea of being passed around like trading cards.

zhinxy
13 years ago

So, NWO will I be paying taxes to fund the abortion police? Will there be schools? Borders? A military?

darksidecat
13 years ago

Also, how can the “unborn” have autonomy? By definition, they are non-autonomous from the pregnant person.

stonerwithaboner
13 years ago

Okay, Molly Ren….

I guess that would be a debate that would have many shades of grey….

I suppose he is creating a dicotomy of good girl/bad girl–madonna/whore complex. I actually first read about that at a PUA site where the author suggested that it is the man’s job to make a woman feel safe to be sexual with him….

Magpie
Magpie
13 years ago

I think abortion should be legal up to birth, when things go wrong very late in pregnancy it can be deadly.

zhinxy
13 years ago

How will you be able to prove a woman aborted and not miscarried? If people are gonna get killed over this, shouldn’t it be really cut and dried?

Seems like you’re gonna need a LOOOOT of taxes for this…

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

i vote that everybody backs off and let NWO not get distracted here, so he can respond to Zhinxy 😀

Except me… cuz I’m her herald 😀

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
13 years ago

Now do you see why I think that feminists are completely bats**t CRAZY??

I offer a response to a reasonable question raised howthe concerns both of women committed to either virginity and purity or sex dissolution, and their families can be peacefully and profitably reconciled and harmonized. I provide an answer, and many of them, scream that it is a form of ‘slavery”, that I am justifying murder, “why not just kill them”, and so on…

ladies, I don’t know what the devil you want. You say that it isn’t your crazy hormones acting up, you say that you want to be talked to like you are capable of rational thought, and every time I offer a suggestion satisfactory to everyone, you and your demented kind bite my head off!

PS–Bee, I am Meller, NOT Mellertoad. Tell Nobinayamu likewise! I could certainly make fun of your names–and everything else about you–but I don’t. If modern psychiatrists ever need evidence to see that you modern women are NUTZ–all they have to do is look up manboobz.com and access your posts!

Women being sex-workers and entertainers, fine! Women being tradional wife and mother virgin types. That is wonderful too! Everybody is happy! Live and let live! Lord helpus!

I think my cuties want me…

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Yup Zhinxy xD NWOrld is even MORE expensive than this one XD

Basically his Libertarianism is “I’m king, I don’t pay taxes, everybody else does in order to fund my maniacal schemes”

xD

Molly Ren
13 years ago

“…when things go wrong very late in pregnancy it can be deadly.”

I realized I was clamping my legs together a little bit just *thinking* about those things. Much more effective than slut shaming! 😛

Quackers
Quackers
13 years ago

A newborn can’t survive on it’s own, neither can a 1 year old.

A one year old doesn’t need it’s mother’s womb to survive. There is a huge difference.

Molly Ren
13 years ago

“Women being sex-workers and entertainers, fine! Women being tradional wife and mother virgin types. That is wonderful too! Everybody is happy! Live and let live! Lord helpus!”

But what if I want to be a fighter pilot, DKM?

Holly Pervocracy
13 years ago

I feel better going to bed now that Ami’s here.

*tags Ami in*

*wonders how an anarchist non-State will enforce abortion restrictions considering how even extremely repressive states haven’t eliminated illegal abortions*

*realizes she’s criticizing the paint job on an ideological Titanic*

*goes to bed*

Magpie
Magpie
13 years ago

Molly Ren – so long as you’re an ENTERTAINING fighter pilot 🙂

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

@Zhinxy NWO’s talked about his schools before xD He wants only heterocisnormative books taught and science that conforms to his creationist beliefs ande tc etc brainwashing XD

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

No other options besides “housewife” and “whore,” right, Mellertoad? If you think that’s a reasonable solution to your “woman problem,” you are the batshit one here, not us.

You’re vile.

Magpie
Magpie
13 years ago

I feel much less squicked now I know Meller is talking about dolls, not actual people.

SaruGoku
SaruGoku
13 years ago

DKM:

I see, so the “choice” is either being a good daughter, wife, and mother (under your own definition) or being “offered” into involuntary prostitution.

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