The director of the first Human Centipede film – the one about a psychopathic doctor who sews three unwilling and unwitting captives together mouth-to-anus to make a sort of “centipede” — proudly declared that his film was “100% medically accurate.” That is, he found a doctor who was willing to say that if one were indeed to create such a centipede, the second and third segments (i.e., people) would be able to survive, provided that you supplemented their rather dismal diet with IV drips to give them the nutrition they were lacking.
This dubious claim to 100% accuracy came to mind today as I perused a post by the blogger who calls himself Dalrock, a manospherian nitwit with a penchant for pseudoscientific defenses of old-fashioned misogyny. In a post with the whimsical title “We are trapped on Slut Island and Traditional Conservatives are our Gilligan,” Dalrock argues that the best “solution” to out-of-wedlock births is some good old-fashioned slut shaming.
Here’s how he breaks down the (imaginary) numbers in a post that is “100% mathematically accurate” – which is to say, not accurate at all:
Assume we are starting off with 100 sluts and 30 alphas/players. The sluts are happily riding on the alpha carousel. Now we introduce slut shaming. It isn’t fully effective of course, but it manages to convince 15 of the would be sluts not to be sluts after all. This means an additional 15 women are again potentially suitable for marriage. This directly translates into fewer fatherless children. This also makes the next round of slut shaming easier. Instead of having 99 peers eagerly cheering her on her ride, each slut now has 15 happily married women shaming her and only 84 other sluts encouraging her. After the next round this becomes 30 happily married women shaming the sluts, and only 69 other sluts cheering them on, and so on. This process continues until all but the most die hard sluts are off the carousel. You will never discourage them all, but you can do a world better than we are doing today.
Why not shame the fathers as well, while we’re at it? Dalrock explains that this just doesn’t make good mathematical sense:
Start with the same base assumption of 100 sluts and 30 players. Now apply shame to the players. Unfortunately shame is less effective on players than it is on sluts, so instead of discouraging 15% of them (4.5) in the first round, it only discourages three of them. No problem!, says the Gilligan [the social conservative], at least there are now three fewer sluts now that three of the evil alphas have been shamed away, and all without creating any unhappy sluts! But unfortunately it doesn’t work that way. The remaining 27 players are more than happy to service the extra sluts. They are quite maddeningly actually delighted with the new situation. Even worse, the next round of player shaming is even less effective than the first. This time only 2 players are discouraged, and one of the other 3 realizes that his player peers are picking up the slack anyway and reopens for business. This means in net there are still 26 players, more than enough to handle all of the sluts you can throw at them.
Well, there’s no arguing with that!
Seriously, there’s no arguing with that, because it is an imaginary construct with only the most tenuous connection with how things work in the real world. “But … MATH!” doesn’t really work as an argument here, since human beings don’t actually behave according to simplistic mathematical formulas.
Film critic note: While the first Human Centipede film offered little more than a workmanlike treatment of a fantastical idea, the recently released sequel, which details the attempts of a deranged Human Centipede superfan to take human-centipeding to the next level, is actually sort of brilliant. If you like that sort of thing.
Do you have the right of life, property, autonomy, and vote? Well that’s all there is there ain’t no more! You must want something extra.
f you want equality, that’d mean no more abortion
So much for right to autonomy xD
Strike one NWO.
What are you even voting on NWO? xD
You say “right of life, property, autonomy and vote” but clearly you don’t mean them in the sense most everybody else understands them as xD So in your world where it’s ONLY those 4 things, what does it look like? :3 Be specific cuz after all, you’ve thought about this very very carefully right? 😀
I can’t help but wonder why “fatherless children” (setting aside for the moment that these children likely have fathers) is considered such a catastrophe that it warrants brutal oppression and emotional abuse against the majority of the population. May I suggest one of a variety of different models of child rearing than the modern western nuclear family model instead?
Also, if every woman was/is a slut, then how would slutdom negatively impact their dating and social chances, given that every other woman is also a slut?
@Holly Pervocracy
“NWO’s libertarianism is apparently the kind where the government steps in to prevent abortions and where it dictates the terms of marriage contracts. SO LIBERATING”
No, the father would have the right to kill the murderer of his child. A life for a life, equality.
Where does the vendetta end NWO, that woman was the child of a father, too.
No.
Ah, but there is a better term! You’re just far too stupid to think of it.
“stoner – you are only a MGTOW if there are hordes of sluts disappointed by your staying home :)”
I am sorry to dissapoint, but when I go out this evening, I will only be getting a big bowl of chicken pho and nothing more….
NWOslave | November 19, 2011 at 10:40 pm
@Ami Angelwings
A little boy pretending to be a girl.
I doubt there’s too much you could teach me about reality.
Nice XD You’re down to your transphobic insults XD
That’s IT?
NWO, you treat the male and female posters here VERY differently. If you honestly thought I was male, and you knew before I ever came out here (because after all MEN AND WOMEN ARE TOTALLY TOTALLY MENTALLY DIFFERENT right? XD ) then you’d be treating me differently than the way you always have and still do XD
No matter what your ideology you’re trying to cling to, the best part is that YOU still mentally recognize me as female XD
Also on reality…. um you’re the one who believes in the illuminati, the jewish banking conspiracies and all that XD
NWO’s being especially nasty tonight.
Meller does want sex slaves. DKM, “Sex Farm” is only a song.
You’re the worst libertarian ever. State-endorsed MURDER is your idea of freedom…
(Have you ever answered the question of “what if the mother and father agree to get an abortion”? Or is that like gays, and it just won’t happen in the NWOtopia?)
Anyway, in Libertarian Paradise, the woman has a gun. And her friends all have guns. And she happens to have a lot of friends. What now.
Either way, my goading has finally gotten us UFC Zhinxy vs NWO! 😀
This little girl has a better grasp on everything here than a certain old man 😀
I don’t know, maybe the discussion of prison and all that but I thought of this song I haven’t heard in many aeons….
No, the father would have the right to kill the murderer of his child. A life for a life, equality.
Who decides that a zygote is a life NWO? The state? Science? (which I thought you don’t believe in) Religion (state sponsored religion? o: ) You? 😀 (NWOcracy)
NWO doesn’t pull the transphobia unless he sees absolutely no way to deal with me and he’s really pissed off XD (or he’s trying to get himself banned on purpose)
AmiAngelwings–November19@ 10:37pm
“What if they (sexually independent women) don’t want to be closely supervised by their families? Then what?
I think that I already made a suggestion regarding that possibility. Women who give up the protection of their families, and embrace a life of dissolution are offered to houses of business where these women’s proclivities and talents are put to the most profitable use,while assuring their safety, cleanliness, and personal livelihood.
Nobody will “constrain” or “forbid” them a lifestyle of their choice–and nobody will protect them from its consequences either. They, and other women like them, will be given up to businesses/ agencies whose specialty is the entertainment and the pleasure of men.Virgins are protected, and so are sexually “enterprising” women!
Everyone is happy!!
What I really want to know is: if I am a single female and on Saturday night, not out and trying to get laid, what the eff does that make me? Have I un-slutted myself?
(Do I get extra points if I spend my Saturday nights commenting on Man Boobz?)
I think that I already made a suggestion regarding that possibility. Women who give up the protection of their families, and embrace a life of dissolution are offered to houses of business where these women’s proclivities and talents are put to the most profitable use,while assuring their safety, cleanliness, and personal livelihood.
Nobody will “constrain” or “forbid” them a lifestyle of their choice–and nobody will protect them from its consequences either. They, and other women like them, will be given up to businesses/ agencies whose specialty is the entertainment and the pleasure of men.Virgins are protected, and so are sexually “enterprising” women!
This is very general and a lot of hyperbole o: Can you elaborate on specifically what this would mean? :3
It’s kinda like if I said in my perfect world, men who don’t submit to being turned into Cybertronians would be well taken care of in fun and cute ways…
everybody’s happy! 😀
which explains… absolutely nothing xD
@Ami Angelwings
“If you want equality, that’d mean no more abortion
So much for right to autonomy xD
Strike one NWO.”
Why do I bother answering someone who is completely out of touch with reality I’ll never know.
Everyone’s life began at conception. If it didn’t, you wouldn’t be here. The autonomy of the unborn is the right you disreguard, as is the life as well. How telling when women usurp the rights of the most helpless of all of us. My guess is, the unborn really don’t want to die. They just don’t have the right to live in a feminists society.
Meller, you’re still describing slavery. What f the woman doesn’t WANT to be a prostitute? What then? Do you just kill them?
BTW, you are repulsive, in case I haven’t told you lately.
David K. Meller apparently wants to legalize prostitution, though this is the most ass-backwards way I’ve ever seen it argued for. Would these brothels be kept to standards of safety and cleanliness set by the state?
“Meller, you’re still describing slavery. What f the woman doesn’t WANT to be a prostitute? What then? Do you just kill them?”
But hellkell, if a woman isn’t a virgin, she’s a slut! THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND!
Molly–it’s been said over and over, but for a libertarian he’s sure into state control, especially for the womenfolk.
“because after all MEN AND WOMEN ARE TOTALLY TOTALLY MENTALLY DIFFERENT right? XD”
just an observation, if it is not to politically loaded….
It seems that one will use that argument to promote one policy then use the exact reverse argument that men and women are MENTALLY SIMILAR when it suits them….
so which one is it????
@Holly Pervocracy
“You’re the worst libertarian ever. State-endorsed MURDER is your idea of freedom…”
We already have that under feminist law. It’s called abortion. I mean they are dead. They were violently murdered.