The director of the first Human Centipede film – the one about a psychopathic doctor who sews three unwilling and unwitting captives together mouth-to-anus to make a sort of “centipede” — proudly declared that his film was “100% medically accurate.” That is, he found a doctor who was willing to say that if one were indeed to create such a centipede, the second and third segments (i.e., people) would be able to survive, provided that you supplemented their rather dismal diet with IV drips to give them the nutrition they were lacking.
This dubious claim to 100% accuracy came to mind today as I perused a post by the blogger who calls himself Dalrock, a manospherian nitwit with a penchant for pseudoscientific defenses of old-fashioned misogyny. In a post with the whimsical title “We are trapped on Slut Island and Traditional Conservatives are our Gilligan,” Dalrock argues that the best “solution” to out-of-wedlock births is some good old-fashioned slut shaming.
Here’s how he breaks down the (imaginary) numbers in a post that is “100% mathematically accurate” – which is to say, not accurate at all:
Assume we are starting off with 100 sluts and 30 alphas/players. The sluts are happily riding on the alpha carousel. Now we introduce slut shaming. It isn’t fully effective of course, but it manages to convince 15 of the would be sluts not to be sluts after all. This means an additional 15 women are again potentially suitable for marriage. This directly translates into fewer fatherless children. This also makes the next round of slut shaming easier. Instead of having 99 peers eagerly cheering her on her ride, each slut now has 15 happily married women shaming her and only 84 other sluts encouraging her. After the next round this becomes 30 happily married women shaming the sluts, and only 69 other sluts cheering them on, and so on. This process continues until all but the most die hard sluts are off the carousel. You will never discourage them all, but you can do a world better than we are doing today.
Why not shame the fathers as well, while we’re at it? Dalrock explains that this just doesn’t make good mathematical sense:
Start with the same base assumption of 100 sluts and 30 players. Now apply shame to the players. Unfortunately shame is less effective on players than it is on sluts, so instead of discouraging 15% of them (4.5) in the first round, it only discourages three of them. No problem!, says the Gilligan [the social conservative], at least there are now three fewer sluts now that three of the evil alphas have been shamed away, and all without creating any unhappy sluts! But unfortunately it doesn’t work that way. The remaining 27 players are more than happy to service the extra sluts. They are quite maddeningly actually delighted with the new situation. Even worse, the next round of player shaming is even less effective than the first. This time only 2 players are discouraged, and one of the other 3 realizes that his player peers are picking up the slack anyway and reopens for business. This means in net there are still 26 players, more than enough to handle all of the sluts you can throw at them.
Well, there’s no arguing with that!
Seriously, there’s no arguing with that, because it is an imaginary construct with only the most tenuous connection with how things work in the real world. “But … MATH!” doesn’t really work as an argument here, since human beings don’t actually behave according to simplistic mathematical formulas.
Film critic note: While the first Human Centipede film offered little more than a workmanlike treatment of a fantastical idea, the recently released sequel, which details the attempts of a deranged Human Centipede superfan to take human-centipeding to the next level, is actually sort of brilliant. If you like that sort of thing.
David K Meller
I’m from Canada. It’s not thanksgiving here.
You’re American right? If so you’re alone with your dolls. Have fun with that. Be an internet bully as much as you want but in the end of the day you are still very much alone.
I feel sad for you. Perhaps you could do some volunteer work and meet some friends and such instead of spending your day wishing that you lived somewhere else then in your mind.
Perhaps Egypt would be a good choice for you? Reports out are saying they are testing females for their “purity”.
Or you could become a member of the Taliban, they know how to our women in their place.
You do have options other then sitting in your house pathetically hitting the keys. There really is a place for everyone including you. I know your in a dark space right now but life can get better for you…you just need to move.
Sure Meller, keep telling yourself that dolls are your second choice. With your outlook, they’re the only choice. You know it, we all know it.
I don’t think you’re a deranged lunatic for talking to dolls, I think you’re deranged lunatic because YOU DON’T THINK WOMEN ARE HUMAN.
>>divorce has increased
I like to think of it as “loveless marriages have decreased”.
Meller: That’s right, I forgot that you refuse to take any responsibility for your own lack of dating prospects (protip: Shocking as this may be, very, very few women want to be sex slaves!), so you blame your inability to find your perfect fluffy sub on feminists. That’s just fucking RUDE.
A guy like David K Meller : he spend 170000$ on Real Doll and live with 100 of them :
Kave–likely CIA agent!
Nice try! You’ll have to do a LOT better than that to get me killed!
Don’t you think that I KNOW, especially after the two Al-Awlaki murders ordered by US President Obama, father and son, that a favored way of getting rid of me would be to tie me in with so-called “terrorists”, exploit my alleged, or even framed, associations with the likes of Egypt’s Moslem Brotherhood, still more, Afghan Taliban, on grounds that They and I both agree about women having too much freedom in the modern world, but other than that, they and I both go our separate ways..
The fact that leading feminist Gloria Steinem was purportedly a CIA agent when she founded Ms Magazine certainly acts to strongly confirm my case about you, Kava!
I disagree with Moslem fundamentalists as much as I do with feminuts, although for different reasons. I also pray for peace, and I abjure and detest American imperialist presence in that part of the world, whether because of their attempts to maintain their control of oil extraction sources, pipelines, important storage and refinery sites, or port facilities, on one hand, and support the genocidal Zionist maniacs against Palestians and their supporters in the Near East on the other! My approach is that of Ron Paul, Non intervention, letting the religious fundamentalists deal with women in their own way, and letting Moslems and Zionists deal with each other without American, including my own, interference!
For the record, I have no interest in either helping or hurting fundamentalists or moderates, pro-Americans or anti-Americans, or Zionist or Palestinians in their assorted struggles there. If Moslem fundamentalists have something to teach us about women and the problems that they can cause by having too much freedom in society, we have to learn for ourselves, and adapt it to a Christian (largely secular) social and religious type of law and politics. My (non-existent) involvement with terrorists won’t help one way or the other!
LOL. “Likely” CIA agent. Meller lives in some nice alternate reality where the CIA has the manpower to have agents trolling about on feminist forums to incite Meller into becoming an Islamic fundamentalist.
Don’t tell NWOslave, Meller, but I’m a 23rd degree Scottish Freemason (I know, I know, the rubes think there’s only 14 degrees, but I did all the secret ones too) which makes me one of the five Illuminati Grandmasters in North America.
Fiat lux.
No more mr nice guy–November24,2011 @2:07pm
It shows that feminism is a worldwide plague, Once adorable Japanese women are now almost as disgustingly over-educated, man-hating, and just plain misandrist (man-hating) as the American sisterhood from hell! This poor fellow was no doubt put in a similar situation with Japanese screaming harpies as I am with modern women over here, and has attempted to solve it in a similar way.
I understand why he is doing what he is doing, and he has my sincerest sympathies and good wishes! A hundred of them does seem “over the top”, however. Each doll needs his attention and love, and maintaining a “harem” of a hundred of the little lady lovelies would inevitably be a strain, even if he had full time to devote to all of them, which he probably hasn’t!
Have fun!!
Blackbloc,
Yes, and your loyalties would be to whom, the NWO and CIA masterminded “war-on-terror” or to me? Maybe the CIA isn’t DIRECTLY involved in Kave’s post, but we both know what they are trying to do, don’t we?
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, SHAME ON ME!!
Meller: In all seriousness, please get some help for your paranoid delusions. The way you’re talking is making me afraid for the people around you.
As a high placed Illuminati agent, my loyalties are of course to our Lord, Bringer of Light, Lucifer himself.
We do occasionally collaborate with Shib-Niggurath worshippers, but our CIA pawns aren’t responsible for feminism. Nah, that’s all a plan of the Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young. Can’t you see? Plain as day.
Fiat Lux.
There are no people around David K Meller. This is why he is the way he is, or that’s why there are no people around him.
No one is stopping David K Meller from immigrating to a country that has the same worldview as his own. Seriously David, no one is going to hunt you down if you decide you want to live in a country where women have little to no rights.
The Saudi’s are going to let women drive and maybe even vote next year. I know this is disheartening to you and I feel your pain but there are other places where you could feel at home.
Chin up brother.. next year could be better,
o_O I think we broke DKM. His inner bits are starting to leak out in a disturbing manner.
Meller, I still have quite a bit of tinfoil left from all the cooking today, would you care to make a new bonnet?
“Plush fluffies and little lady lovelies (collector dolls) are NOT my first choice”
No, they’re your only choice, since actual women want nothing to do you.
Shriek away, angry old man. No one cares.
H- he spent his day trolling here!? I don’t think I can mock DKM anymore, this is just too sad.
I mean seriously I’m not really one for family get togethers, but it’d be better than trolling the internet… just, leaves me with the impression he really does only have his dolls.
,” but our CIA pawns aren’t responsible for feminism. Nah, that’s all a plan of the Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young. Can’t you see? Plain as day.
Fiat Lux.”
Blackbloc, the Black Goat is more into the gay agenda, and you KNOW it! Don’t be telling tales!
PS. Cassandrasays: I want you to know that I took seriously the criticisms you made of my comments here, and I’m working on answereing them. Are you on the forums, or should I post the answer here in the original comments thread (though we’ve moved on) or should I email you? Cause it’s gonna get kinda long. I just wanted you to know that I respect what you said and think you deserve an answer.
Ps. if you do want email, you can use the ask box on my tumblr, so no trolls can see it 🙂
Meller, have you considered an anatomically correct doll? Maybe you should, and I’m not mocking you. You might be happier that way. Perhaps not a hundred, but one or two? I honestly think your doll woman would never have existed at any time in the past, and you’re just angry at flesh and blood women for not living up to her.
Dolls are not companions. A dog can be a companion, or a horse, or a parrot, or a person.
Those are sentient creatures. They may even have some level of sapience (parrots in particular, of that list).
Dolls, are neither. Hence there can be no reciprocity to the interaction.
To be honest, not all is always real in human-pet interaction. There is a lot of projection of human feelings and thoughts. It’s particularly visible with people who consider their pet to be their “baby” (by which I don’t mean people who call their puppy baby), or children (or sometimes adults) who talk to their pet and believe it understands every word.
Anyway, if you’re going to lust after a non-human, might as well be an object.
I will point out, though, that most schools of feminism are fundamentally statist in that many of them are descended from either socialism or liberalism, and that a lot of the anti-State comments here play right into the thought processes of people like NWO who want to argue that feminism is bad because it supports state intervention.
NWO argues feminism is bad because feminism is bad. It doesn’t matter if we want the state or not want the state. A lot of what we argue is LESS state intervention (no state intervention about marriage, abortion, transition, etc), and a lot of what HE argues is MORE xD NWO just uses the Libertarian card b/c it suits his idea of being the brave lone rebel, and he knows everybody here is anti-Libertarian so it adds to his feelings of being brave, special and he knows nobody will be able to dismantle him on that ground. Now somebody can and as you can see, he can’t substantiate his point of view at all. xD
Also, I really don’t see feminism as “fundamentally statist” any more than really.. ANY ideology is “fundamentally statist” because we live in a state, and laws and structures and institutions have been created that people of that ideology believe are harmful and must be removed, or changed, or replaced in order to have practical benefits. Whether it’s affirmative action, hate crime laws, anti-abortion bills, anti-gay marriage bills, pro-gay marriage bills, religious-exception laws, etc etc etc… it’s all working through the state to create protections, remove protections, allow things, disallow things etc… but I don’t think feminism ITSELF means that without a state, it’d be impossible to be feminist, or have feminist communities. I think feminism is a philosophy, and how it’s IMPLEMENTED practically, is obviously using the state, but it doesn’t mean the philosophy vanishes and is untenable without a state.
Just because Zhinxy believes the state isn’t ideal doesn’t mean it plays into NWO’s viewpoint (he doesn’t have a consistent one). NWO doesn’t even understand WHY he thinks the state is bad (he clearly doesn’t when it suits him), And if his logic is “feminism has worked with the state therefore feminism is bad”, then EVERYTHING is bad for him, including himself e_e Zhinxy obviously isn’t the one saying that, if he’s inferring that, well, that’s not different than him misreading EVERYTHING we say, or believing that the world was created 5000 years ago xD He’s WRONG, and it’s not Zhinxy’s fault if he’s wrong about that too. Unless we’re going with a “giving comfort to the enemy” thing XD
FFS, he thinks THINGS WE SAY ON THIS VERY FORUM are proof to him that feminism is evil, and we’re advocating the extermination of men. He quotes Holly all the time out of context to fuel his belief of this XD If he ends up doing that w/ Zhinxy (which so far he can’t, and hasn’t figure out a way too, he’s just been flailing and crying and running away xD ) then that’s just par for the course for him. xD
It’s never going to be a danger that NWO actually thinks Zhinxy has a point, because it means… admitting Zhinxy has a point XD
This is the guy who insists Zhinxy cannot be Libertarian b/c she’s pro-choice b/c in NWOrld without state laws intefering, magical imps from dimension Q will show up and prevent women from getting abortions >_>