The director of the first Human Centipede film – the one about a psychopathic doctor who sews three unwilling and unwitting captives together mouth-to-anus to make a sort of “centipede” — proudly declared that his film was “100% medically accurate.” That is, he found a doctor who was willing to say that if one were indeed to create such a centipede, the second and third segments (i.e., people) would be able to survive, provided that you supplemented their rather dismal diet with IV drips to give them the nutrition they were lacking.
This dubious claim to 100% accuracy came to mind today as I perused a post by the blogger who calls himself Dalrock, a manospherian nitwit with a penchant for pseudoscientific defenses of old-fashioned misogyny. In a post with the whimsical title “We are trapped on Slut Island and Traditional Conservatives are our Gilligan,” Dalrock argues that the best “solution” to out-of-wedlock births is some good old-fashioned slut shaming.
Here’s how he breaks down the (imaginary) numbers in a post that is “100% mathematically accurate” – which is to say, not accurate at all:
Assume we are starting off with 100 sluts and 30 alphas/players. The sluts are happily riding on the alpha carousel. Now we introduce slut shaming. It isn’t fully effective of course, but it manages to convince 15 of the would be sluts not to be sluts after all. This means an additional 15 women are again potentially suitable for marriage. This directly translates into fewer fatherless children. This also makes the next round of slut shaming easier. Instead of having 99 peers eagerly cheering her on her ride, each slut now has 15 happily married women shaming her and only 84 other sluts encouraging her. After the next round this becomes 30 happily married women shaming the sluts, and only 69 other sluts cheering them on, and so on. This process continues until all but the most die hard sluts are off the carousel. You will never discourage them all, but you can do a world better than we are doing today.
Why not shame the fathers as well, while we’re at it? Dalrock explains that this just doesn’t make good mathematical sense:
Start with the same base assumption of 100 sluts and 30 players. Now apply shame to the players. Unfortunately shame is less effective on players than it is on sluts, so instead of discouraging 15% of them (4.5) in the first round, it only discourages three of them. No problem!, says the Gilligan [the social conservative], at least there are now three fewer sluts now that three of the evil alphas have been shamed away, and all without creating any unhappy sluts! But unfortunately it doesn’t work that way. The remaining 27 players are more than happy to service the extra sluts. They are quite maddeningly actually delighted with the new situation. Even worse, the next round of player shaming is even less effective than the first. This time only 2 players are discouraged, and one of the other 3 realizes that his player peers are picking up the slack anyway and reopens for business. This means in net there are still 26 players, more than enough to handle all of the sluts you can throw at them.
Well, there’s no arguing with that!
Seriously, there’s no arguing with that, because it is an imaginary construct with only the most tenuous connection with how things work in the real world. “But … MATH!” doesn’t really work as an argument here, since human beings don’t actually behave according to simplistic mathematical formulas.
Film critic note: While the first Human Centipede film offered little more than a workmanlike treatment of a fantastical idea, the recently released sequel, which details the attempts of a deranged Human Centipede superfan to take human-centipeding to the next level, is actually sort of brilliant. If you like that sort of thing.
@Holly Pervocracy
Asshole? Is that the best you can do? Why wouldn’t I hate a hate movement? Hell, Goebbels got nothing on hate propaganda compared to feminists. He’d probably wince at the level of hate rhetoric feminists spew.
By the way, NWO, I think it’s pretty funny how you talk big about how you’re living in the deathgrip of a repressive hyper-PC Big Daddy State… and you don’t act scared.
If I was in a speech-repressing state with jackbooted thugs enforcing, I wouldn’t be posting about it on the Internet! (Maybe for the purposes of organizing revolt, but not to casually pick fights with random strangers.) You’re posting from your home IP address, I’m guessing?
You talk big about how the thugs come after any man who dissents, but you dissent in the ugliest, crudest ways imaginable, quite feely, and you don’t seem to be very concerned that someone might come for you.
Is it that you don’t really believe your own bullshit, or that you don’t even know what really being scared of your own society feels like?
*feely = freely. d’oh.
Goebbels got nothing on hate propaganda compared to feminists.
See, this is the sort of thing I’m talking about. Jews under the Nazi regime didn’t pick a lot of fights with Germans just to make a point; and the ones who did, generally paid for it with their lives.
And yet you live. You live without any real fear at all. You make your cheap little fascist allusions when you know DAMN WELL you’re lucky enough to live in a society with enough liberty that you’re free to talk the way you do.
@Little Mousling (@LittleMousling)
You’re right. Stupid numbers are patriarchal.
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@Bee
“Might happen, but still not gonna be prosecuted.”
Tell that to the countless men falsely imprisoned, ostricized or murdered, (to protect a womans honor of course). Or doesn’t that happen either?
Well, this is interesting. Here we have a proposal originating with a male that sluts be shamed so as to render them suitable for sanitization via marriage. That’s different. I’m old enough to remember a time when the objective of chest-beaters everywhere was to “get to” a certain number of young women “early enough” to turn them into sluts, disqualify them for marriage, and free them up for uncommitted sex. How the ways change.
Well, this is interesting. Here we have a proposal originating with a male that sluts be shamed so as to render them suitable for sanitization via marriage. That’s different. I’m old enough to remember a time when the objective of chest-beaters everywhere was to “get to” a certain number of young women “early enough” to turn them into sluts, disqualify them for marriage, and free them up for uncommitted sex. How the ways change.
Fixed that.
@Holly Pervocracy
Apparently, liberty has a definition I’m not familiar with. Your defintion seems to include Big Daddys intervention. His help, enforcement, indoctrination.
But you haven’t been “helped,” NWO! You haven’t been indoctrinated! And you’re not even afraid that you’ll face enforcement!
If you really think you live in a fascist regime, one where you could literally be attacked without repercussion or thrown in jail without cause–why aren’t you afraid?
You talk about how oppressed you are, but you sure don’t talk like a man who’s watching his back.
(Not that I think you should watch your back, by the way, NWO. This isn’t a threat. Actually the opposite. I’m just pointing out that if the Feminist Thought Police hasn’t come for you by now, you of all people, someone far more offensive to feminism than 99% of men, maybe that goes to show there is no Feminist Thought Police.)
It happens exceptionally rarely, and under completely different circumstances than the ones you’ve suggested here. If you can find any example — even one — of a woman telling people that she freely consented to sex, and only much later decided that she regretted it, and of the man she had consensual sex with being imprisoned, ostracized, or murdered to protect her honor, I will give you a cookie.
@Holly Pervocracy
I am indeed posting from home, for the first time in 39 days. I was in salt lake city for that time, and unfortunately I’m going back for another crushing however long it takes. You folks don’t seem to realize the amount of effort it takes to walk into the big refrigerator when you grab a bottle of pop.
By the way, salt lake city is quite lovely. Unfortunately I didn’t get a chance to sitesee. That was 39 days straight of 10+ hours a day. A tad draining, and quite dangerous.
Okay, NWO, so you’re not only letting us know that you are indeed posting from your home IP, you’re giving notice of your future travel plans.
These are not the actions of a dissident under a fascist regime.
@Bee
I’ve given soooo many it seems quite pointless. The standard response will be NAWALT. Which somehow makes it all better.
Tell me? If I always support men in he said/she said cases of date rape where no violence has taken place, does that make me a misogynist?
NWO, are you afraid that you, personally, could be falsely accused of rape? After all, lots of feminists hate you, and you’re very vocally anti-feminist and anti-government. Are you afraid? Are you taking steps to protect yourself? You keep speaking out against feminism and the state–are you prepared to go to jail as a result?
…or are you doublethinkingly damn well aware that it’s not going to happen to you because false accusations that actually lead to imprisonment are incredibly fucking rare and you have nothing to worry about?
I know I’m harping on it tonight, but you’re fucking wallowing in your freedom of speech while wailing about how you have none. And you don’t even sound nervous about it.
@Holly Pervocracy
What do I have to lose? The only thing I own is debt, thanks to Big Daddys penchant for answering to the bankers nation destroying usury. Which is where all power is derived, including the propogation of feminism.
What? Will they imprison me? Three hots and a cot, free dental and medical? All at taxpayers expense of 130k a year. Tell me, why would Big Daddy do that? Why wouldn’t Big Daddy just hand me 65K a year? It’s half the price. What could the reason be?
Ya see, when enough men are disenfranchised, hobbled, have stumbling placed before them at every turn, there really isn’t anything to lose.
You choose to side with a tyrannical State, I don’t. Eventually of course, after feminism has outlived it’s usefulness of hatefully criminalizing all men, you’ll be joining men in the poverty palace. No rights for you either.
NWO, you’re only disenfranchised, hobbled, and stumbling in your mind, a very scary place to be sure, but hardly reality. White men are still doing OK, and to borrow your ilk’s logic, if you’re not, isn’t it all your fault?
hahahahaha,
Human Centipede, don’t let Robert Jensen know you watched it as it contains his favorite type of porn-ass 2 mouth….
bad attempt at a joke at the expense of his puritanical beliefs…..
@Holly Pervocracy
I’m pretty sure I’ve made it clear I have nothing to lose but a lifetime of hard labor. I retire when I die.
Is there, “hate speech?” And who gets to decide what constitutes hate speech? And what is the penalty? What will the penalty eventually be?
So, um… shit, sounds like falsely accusing a guy of rape is the nicest thing I could do for him. In NWO fantasyland, I don’t know why that’s even a problem. Apparently prison is suddenly the Holiday Inn.
…Prison costs more like $25K a year, but whatever.
Still, even if you’d welcome prison, you aren’t actually there. And some men are. (Some women are, but oh God let’s not go there you might explode from the revelation.) How do you doublethink your way around that?
Well, since you do, let’s drop the pretense that this is a hypothetical. You are a misogynist, and your position on date rape at the very least makes you an incurious, easily confused douchebag.
Actually, I just asked you for one example, so me responding that not all women are like that would kind of be beside the point. The fact that you were unable to come up with even one example of what I asked for is telling.
So dramatic! Between your everpresent vapors and Meller’s shelf of collectible dolls, I must confess I’m a bit perplexed what problems you two could have with nontraditional gender role theory. Anyway, yeah, I guess that all that posting you were doing on manboobz in the last 39 days was in your few free moments between tweaking all those Salt Lake milk machines. Lactophile Utahians take their hats off to you, my dear, for your feats of derring-do.
@hellkell
Are there any stumbling blocks? Are there any State agencies which empower one gender above another? Any charities? Any corporate entities? Any UN/international agencies? Where do all those trillions upon trillions of dollars come from? Do I have a choice as to where my money goes? If my money goes? Am I paying back all those loans at interest?
“White men are still doing OK, and to borrow your ilk’s logic, if you’re not, isn’t it all your fault?”
Wait, doesn’t that go against the logic of OWS?
CA prison costs:
http://www.lao.ca.gov/laoapp/laomenus/sections/crim_justice/6_cj_inmatecost.aspx?catid=3
just under 50k per year, i think it was from 2008/2009, might be more now….
If Big Daddy won’t let you do what you want, do what every other kid does – ask Mum! 🙂
@Bee
I’ve never seen a milking machine. And to be honest, I’ve only ever seen a cow from a distance. Being the privileged class, you no doubt think cows and juice and soda products naturally dispense into bottles and magically arive at the big refrigerator known as walmart.