The director of the first Human Centipede film – the one about a psychopathic doctor who sews three unwilling and unwitting captives together mouth-to-anus to make a sort of “centipede” — proudly declared that his film was “100% medically accurate.” That is, he found a doctor who was willing to say that if one were indeed to create such a centipede, the second and third segments (i.e., people) would be able to survive, provided that you supplemented their rather dismal diet with IV drips to give them the nutrition they were lacking.
This dubious claim to 100% accuracy came to mind today as I perused a post by the blogger who calls himself Dalrock, a manospherian nitwit with a penchant for pseudoscientific defenses of old-fashioned misogyny. In a post with the whimsical title “We are trapped on Slut Island and Traditional Conservatives are our Gilligan,” Dalrock argues that the best “solution” to out-of-wedlock births is some good old-fashioned slut shaming.
Here’s how he breaks down the (imaginary) numbers in a post that is “100% mathematically accurate” – which is to say, not accurate at all:
Assume we are starting off with 100 sluts and 30 alphas/players. The sluts are happily riding on the alpha carousel. Now we introduce slut shaming. It isn’t fully effective of course, but it manages to convince 15 of the would be sluts not to be sluts after all. This means an additional 15 women are again potentially suitable for marriage. This directly translates into fewer fatherless children. This also makes the next round of slut shaming easier. Instead of having 99 peers eagerly cheering her on her ride, each slut now has 15 happily married women shaming her and only 84 other sluts encouraging her. After the next round this becomes 30 happily married women shaming the sluts, and only 69 other sluts cheering them on, and so on. This process continues until all but the most die hard sluts are off the carousel. You will never discourage them all, but you can do a world better than we are doing today.
Why not shame the fathers as well, while we’re at it? Dalrock explains that this just doesn’t make good mathematical sense:
Start with the same base assumption of 100 sluts and 30 players. Now apply shame to the players. Unfortunately shame is less effective on players than it is on sluts, so instead of discouraging 15% of them (4.5) in the first round, it only discourages three of them. No problem!, says the Gilligan [the social conservative], at least there are now three fewer sluts now that three of the evil alphas have been shamed away, and all without creating any unhappy sluts! But unfortunately it doesn’t work that way. The remaining 27 players are more than happy to service the extra sluts. They are quite maddeningly actually delighted with the new situation. Even worse, the next round of player shaming is even less effective than the first. This time only 2 players are discouraged, and one of the other 3 realizes that his player peers are picking up the slack anyway and reopens for business. This means in net there are still 26 players, more than enough to handle all of the sluts you can throw at them.
Well, there’s no arguing with that!
Seriously, there’s no arguing with that, because it is an imaginary construct with only the most tenuous connection with how things work in the real world. “But … MATH!” doesn’t really work as an argument here, since human beings don’t actually behave according to simplistic mathematical formulas.
Film critic note: While the first Human Centipede film offered little more than a workmanlike treatment of a fantastical idea, the recently released sequel, which details the attempts of a deranged Human Centipede superfan to take human-centipeding to the next level, is actually sort of brilliant. If you like that sort of thing.
…Uh, rape is when you don’t want sex and someone has sex with you anyway. It’s been a pretty consistent definition since the sixties.
If you cannot tell if someone who you’re sleeping with wants to sleep with you, you are probably TERRIBLE in bed and should refrain from fucking people until you learn how to.
@Holly Pervocracy
“It’s an example of polyamory. It’s not a harem because the other girl has a second boyfriend and I sleep with other guys.”
Ooooo, polyamory! Now your harem has a happy name. Do you sleep with other Alpha’s as well? How nice! I mean it’s not like your going down to the ghettos or the welfare/unemployment line to fuck, are ya? How about the bums? Any of that good lovin for them?
Do you sleep with other Alpha’s as well? How nice! I mean it’s not like your going down to the ghettos or the welfare/unemployment line to fuck, are ya? How about the bums? Any of that good lovin for them?
Wait, so NWO’s definition of “Alpha” is basically “someone with a good job” now?
Guess I’m an alpha, then. Don’t I just feel special. I guess I have sex with awesome women from time to time, too. Not sure the MRAs would think I count, though–somehow I’m guessing there’s a penis requirement to get into that club.
@ozymandias42
“…Uh, rape is when you don’t want sex and someone has sex with you anyway. It’s been a pretty consistent definition since the sixties.”
I’m afraid not dearie. The definition is no where’s close to the same. It use ta be, forced sex. Now it’s really anything at all. Well, according to feminist State law anyways. However, men in dresses is hawt. We should be concentrating all our efforts on dressing boy children up in frilly dresses. That should solve all our problems!
Actually, NWO, I have slept with unemployed people and former homeless people.
…Whatever that has to do with anything. I’m guessing this is a no-win situation where if I have that proves I’m a low-class whore with no standards, and if I haven’t that proves I’m a hypergamous gold-digger.
What I really am is a person who’s attracted to others as people regardless of their economic status and/or “ghettothugness,” but I would not expect you to grasp such subtleties since you’re still having trouble with things like “sometimes rape actually happens even though the rapist says it didn’t.”
@Little Mousling (@LittleMousling)
Shouldn’t you and your, “partner” be beating the shit out of each other? Lesbians do have a rate of DV well over 2 to 1 as opposed to straight relationships. Whose the man in the relationship by the way?
I’ve slept with unemployed people and tried to seduce a then-homeless person but he said no. 🙁
NWO, when you don’t want sex, and then someone has sex with you anyway, they are forcing you to have sex. IT IS NOT THAT HARD.
I know a guy who could definitely be considered “alpha” as he sleeps with plenty of younger women and is just kind of that mentality and he lives in his van…
@Holly Pervocracy
Gee Holly, you’re so progressive and wonderful. If only your attitude was indoctrinated into society thru the MSM and education system the world would be getting bettter and more affordable every day! Hey, wait just a gold-digging minute! It is! Yet everyday everything gets worse!
@ozymandias42
Nuh-uh princess! Even swinging from the rafters, enthusiastic sex can be revoked the next day. Let’s not pretend like it doesn’t happen.
Whatever, NWO. You don’t have any moral high ground. You just want them to indoctrinate your attitudes instead.
Repeat “liberty means sometimes people will do things I don’t approve of” ten times in the mirror and then get back to me.
…No. Because if you give full and free consent to sex, you cannot wake up in the morning and revoke your consent. That’s not how it works.
Lesbians do have a rate of DV well over 2 to 1 as opposed to straight relationships.
Usually when you completely make shit up you at least try to make it sound plausible. But this one, you might as well have said “the moon is made of green cheese” as far as the believability of the stat you just pulled out of your ass.
The actual rate, per pretty much every reputable study, is almost exactly the same as that of straight relationships: 25%.
“Who’s the man in the relationship?” NWO, you really are an asshole.
@NWOSlave:
Do you have any evidence that there are any (let alone many) instances of false rape accusations which are/were motivated by the woman deciding the sex she had was inadequate? Or is it just intuitively obvious that many such instances must exist?
Yet everyday everything gets worse!
See, this just makes me sad for you, NWO.
This isn’t the world I see at all. The world I see has a lot of problems, to be sure, but it’s bending in the direction of justice. There are highs and lows in the line graph of progress, but the overall trend is always improvement.
I’m sorry your life is so unpleasant that the world appears to be trending the other direction.
@Holly Pervocracy
And you repeat, “liberty means no one has to accept feminism isn’t a hate movement, and by golly I’ll praise them for their liberty in telling me!”
NWO, you aren’t really very clear on how free speech works, are you? You’re allowed to say feminism is a hate movement, and we’re allowed to call you an asshole. Fairness!
Also, lesbian relationships don’t have a “man” in them, by definition. Sometimes one partner is more masculine; sometimes both are masculine; sometimes both are feminine. Sometimes one partner tends to penetrate; sometimes they switch off; sometimes neither partner likes penetration and they instead primarily practice non-penetrative forms of sex; in any circumstance, who does what sex act is not necessarily correlated to gender performance.
@Little Mousling (@LittleMousling)
Really? Things are getting better everyday? Justice will prevail? Oh happy days! A lesbian feminist says things are gonna work out peachy! Well, I guess we can all rest easy! Lesbian feminism will make it all work out! Send the message far and wide! Big Daddy is gonna make all our troubles disappear! With Justice!
“Who’s the man in the relationship?” NWO, you really are an asshole.
Ha! I managed to miss that, getting all distracted by the made-up statistics. Actually, geez, now I’m curious about my last relationship–was “the man” me, because I’m a fast-talking suit-wearing lawyer? Or my pink-collar partner, because she’s dominant in bed? Damn, applying ridiculous binaries to complicated human beings is so hard! Good thing this man is here to explain it to me, I guess.
No, in fact, I believe I’m at liberty to call you an asshole until the sun comes up.
It’s true, though, you don’t have to accept feminism as anything. You’re just an asshole if you don’t.
But hey, fortunately there are more people in this country with my view of liberty than yours, so you have that freedom. Enjoy it. Let me know how it works out for you, what joys it brings you.
Asshole.
@ozymandias42
“NWO, you aren’t really very clear on how free speech works, are you?”
I dunno? Why don’t you and Big Daddy get together and dictate what constitutes, “hate speech.”
I just read a review of Human Centipede II, and JESUS, that’s fucked up. I still wanna see the first one, though.
Also fucked up: the milkslave’s views on rape. Although, Ozy, he is at least kinda right about the legal elements of rape changing over the last few decades. Used to be that the victim had to show utmost resistance, sometimes there needed to be a witness, no marital rape, etc. Nowadays, that’s changed, at least on paper.
Milkslave:
Might happen, but still not gonna be prosecuted. Try telling an officer that you consented to sex at the time, but now that you’ve had a few days to think about it, you change your mind. Tell me how hard he laughs at you. Dude, the elements of rape are still, generally speaking, either (1) inability to consent, or (2) force or threat of force. Quit making shit up.
That goes for Dalrock, too, come to think of it.
Lesbian feminism will make it all work out! Send the message far and wide! Big Daddy is gonna make all our troubles disappear! With Justice!
I sort of enjoy how repetitive and nonsensical you are, NWO. I mean, you’re clearly a troll, but at least you’re an amusing one. Everything you say is sort of like Dr. Seuss crossed with, say, Oxfordian ranting. It’s so completely unfounded as to be uncomprehendable by people who actually know anything about the topic, but the constant repetition of party lines makes it hilarious despite the utter lack of sense.
Their “his daughter was illiterate!” is your “Big Daddy!”
Ha, “uncomprehendable.” Let’s all mentally replace that with “incomprehensible” and I’ll go to bed before I make up any other words.