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100% Mathmatically Accurate! Manosphere blogger Dalrock on slut-shaming

"Kids Love it!" Another claim that is not 100% accurate.

The director of the first Human Centipede film – the one about a psychopathic doctor who sews three unwilling and unwitting captives together mouth-to-anus to make a sort of “centipede” — proudly declared that his film was “100% medically accurate.” That is, he found a  doctor who was willing to say that if one were indeed to create such a centipede, the second and third segments (i.e., people) would be able to survive, provided that you supplemented their rather dismal diet with IV drips to give them the nutrition they were lacking.

This dubious claim to 100% accuracy came to mind today as I perused a post by the blogger who calls himself Dalrock, a manospherian nitwit with a penchant for pseudoscientific defenses of old-fashioned misogyny. In a post with the whimsical title “We are trapped on Slut Island and Traditional Conservatives are our Gilligan,” Dalrock argues that the best “solution” to out-of-wedlock births is some good old-fashioned slut shaming.

Here’s how he breaks down the (imaginary) numbers in a post that is “100% mathematically accurate” – which is to say, not accurate at all:

Assume we are starting off with 100 sluts and 30 alphas/players.  The sluts are happily riding on the alpha carousel.  Now we introduce slut shaming.  It isn’t fully effective of course, but it manages to convince 15 of the would be sluts not to be sluts after all.  This means an additional 15 women are again potentially suitable for marriage.  This directly translates into fewer fatherless children.  This also makes the next round of slut shaming easier.  Instead of having 99 peers eagerly cheering her on her ride, each slut now has 15 happily married women shaming her and only 84 other sluts encouraging her.  After the next round this becomes 30 happily married women shaming the sluts, and only 69 other sluts cheering them on, and so on.  This process continues until all but the most die hard sluts are off the carousel.  You will never discourage them all, but you can do a world better than we are doing today.

Why not shame the fathers as well, while we’re at it? Dalrock explains that this just doesn’t make good mathematical sense:

Start with the same base assumption of 100 sluts and 30 players.  Now apply shame to the players.  Unfortunately shame is less effective on players than it is on sluts, so instead of discouraging 15% of them (4.5) in the first round, it only discourages three of them.  No problem!, says the Gilligan [the social conservative], at least there are now three fewer sluts now that three of the evil alphas have been shamed away, and all without creating any unhappy sluts!  But unfortunately it doesn’t work that way.  The remaining 27 players are more than happy to service the extra sluts.  They are quite maddeningly actually delighted with the new situation.  Even worse, the next round of player shaming is even less effective than the first.  This time only 2 players are discouraged, and one of the other 3 realizes that his player peers are picking up the slack anyway and reopens for business.  This means in net there are still 26 players, more than enough to handle all of the sluts you can throw at them.

Well, there’s no arguing with that!

Seriously, there’s no arguing with that, because it is an imaginary construct with only the most tenuous connection with how things work in the real world. “But … MATH!” doesn’t really work as an argument here, since human beings don’t actually behave according to simplistic mathematical formulas.

Film critic note: While the first Human Centipede film offered little more than a workmanlike treatment of a fantastical idea, the recently released sequel, which details the attempts of a deranged Human Centipede superfan to take human-centipeding to the next level, is actually sort of brilliant. If you like that sort of thing.

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zhinxy
zhinxy
13 years ago

NWO – You seem to like Big Daddy more than me. A LOT more.

So we know what NWO likes. Star Wars Expanded Universe Novels, and The State.

How high is my womb police tax going to be, NWO?

Holly Pervocracy
13 years ago

I give up on explaining science. I’m just going to share some things I enjoy. There are many!

I enjoy building things.
I enjoy the sense of hope I get from progressive social movements that show real promise to create change.
I enjoy cinnamon. I’m chewing on a whole cinnamon stick as I type this. Nom.
I enjoy walks in the forest.
I enjoy having male friends. I have female ones too, but on average I seem to bond better with men.
I enjoy swimming and diving. I’m not good at it, but I enjoy it.
I enjoy biology and medicine, beyond just the job; I enjoy learning about those things for fun.
I actually don’t like cake very much, but I enjoy pie.

What do you enjoy, NWO?

Molly Ren
13 years ago

This video is actually titled “steel cable splicing”… and appears to not only have people wearing protective gloves, but a female person in it!

Holly Pervocracy
13 years ago

Gosh, those guys in the videos were wearing gloves and it didn’t even take them four hours.

zhinxy
zhinxy
13 years ago

I love watching the astounding variety of wildlife that runs or flies or crawls or jumps or hops through my yard.

I love kittens.

I love puppies.

I love teaching my daughter how to cook.

I love the smell of old books.

I love the smell of new books.

I love the smell of neither-old-nor-new books.

Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

So, did NWO just try to turn my earnest attempt to encourage him to enjoy life into some kind of combination pity party/Internet Tough Guy competition? Because that’s how it reads to me.

Molly Ren
13 years ago

It’s quite possible that NWOslave is talking about a different kind of steel cable splicing, but that’s what came up in the Google. Whaddaya say, NWOslave? Is this what your workday looks like?

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

It’s not like NWO would ever exaggerate what he does all day! Why he feels the need to, I’m not sure. Not a lot of people here are going to dole out much sympathy for someone in favor of rape and enslavement.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

As far as I can tell, the only thing he doesn’t hate is statutory rape.

Not really; the young women who “flaunt their sexuality” make him terribly angry.

NWO:

I do something called a cable splice on which every plastic bottle in the world is transported. It’s kinda like knitting, or a type of sailors knot. It’s where you splice two ends of a steel cable together so it’s seemless.

That sounds really cool. I’m not joking. (: Do you feel good when you’re doing this? Does it make you proud to make sure that you’re doing the best job you can do, or to look back and see the work you’ve done? That’s a thing you like, right?

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Holly:

I enjoy cinnamon. I’m chewing on a whole cinnamon stick as I type this. Nom.

0_o

I enjoy surfing the Internet.
I don’t know whether or not I “enjoy” my studies, but I enjoy the sense of satisfaction that comes from having mastered something.
I enjoy when authorities in my field seem interested in my work.
I enjoy drinking with my boyfriend on weekends.

Jill the Spinster
Jill the Spinster
13 years ago

Move along “doyourownresearch”, you’re being ignored here just like you are in real life.

Milk slave on the other hand gets much more attention from the ladies here than in real life, that’s why he loves coming back so much.

NWOslave
NWOslave
13 years ago

@Quackers
” See NWO, when you say non-hatey things like this, it kinda makes me not want to hate you. But when you start hating on women and blaming us for everything, it kinda does.”

I place the blame where it belongs. If women are to blame for a certain action that they do for the most part, then they are to blame. When I say women have, and still do shame men into killing and dying in war. Have and do women scream, “protect me, save me.” Have and do women say, “go kill and die in a foreign land because they’re treating women badly over there.” They deserve that blame.

Watch any newscast about our latest, “victory” in Libya. All you hear about is how the women and children suffer. The word, “man” is never even mentioned. Insurgents, rebels, miltary personel, is the best we get.

Hillary, a woman sent men over to kill other men and die. They held that one woman up as the reason for men to kill and die. You remember. The one who was supposedly raped over and over, yet somehow she manged to escape maximum detention twice to be interviewed by the MSM. There’s a feat James Bond, Laura Croft and MacQiuver couldn’t pull off together. I’ve never seen such a load of blatant propaganda in my life.

But off we went to kill and die to save the woman. Every newscast had some woman interviewing some other woman/girl. Oh they all exclaimed how exiciting it was being, “liberated.” Go kill, go die! And another newscast would have a woman who was for the old regime, (It’s always a regime when it’s the bad guys). And she would cry how women and children are being killed. Go kill, go die!

Everywhere, on every station, women talking about which men should live and which men should die. They all pulled emotions out of each other, how they wept in tears of joy, sorrow, elation, excitement and sadness. Go kill, go die, they cried! It was everywhere.

And you want to be excused from that? How easily the blood washes away when others kill and die for you.

Molly Ren
13 years ago

“That sounds really cool. I’m not joking. (: Do you feel good when you’re doing this? Does it make you proud to make sure that you’re doing the best job you can do, or to look back and see the work you’ve done? That’s a thing you like, right?”

I will actually second this. I enjoyed looking up the process, though I’m more into using a keyboard than anything else. (I think I’ve spliced a wire, uh, once in my life?)

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Ooh, ooh, ooh:
I enjoy terrible art. Last night, I laughed at this for what must have been a good half hour.

Molly Ren
13 years ago

Now I want a shirt with a yeti on it!

kladle
kladle
13 years ago

I hate to defend NWO, but it’s plausible that if he’s working with some sort of fine cable that he finds it too hard to work in gloves. I did a lot of wire sculpture stuff and amateur jewelry making when I was in high school (I still will do it occasionally to make gifts for people) and I found it way too difficult to work with gloves that were thick enough to prevent my hands from getting jabbed. And they did get jabbed like crazy.

Those videos look like they’re demonstrating working with larger gauge stuff so I’d imagine that you don’t need the fine dexterity with that sort of work that gloves could interfere with.

Matthew Cline
Matthew Cline
13 years ago

@Holly Pervocracy:

NWO, why are you here?

Might I put forward the hypothesis that he’s a troll who merely likes getting negative reactions out of feminists?

Molly Ren
13 years ago

“I hate to defend NWO, but it’s plausible that if he’s working with some sort of fine cable that he finds it too hard to work in gloves.”

That was one of the reasons I tried to find videos, kladle. I found it hard to visualize the process and wasn’t sure what gauge he was working with.

zhinxy
zhinxy
13 years ago

@zhinxy
So you say you served on a ship. How nice. I’m sure it was quite a comfort to know if any action, (death) had arisen youd’ve had an entire shipload of men who’d kill/die at your disposal. It’s easy to say Id’ve killed/died to save my crewmates, but a bit more difficult to actually do either. Don’tcha think?”

What do you want me to say, NWO, you statist hypocrite?

Men die in war. Women die in war. Children die in war. I’m against the State and its armies and its taxes and its lies and its wars. Are you, NWO? Not from what you’ve said.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Molly, have you seen this? FUCK YEAH DRAGON WITH AMPS m/

Also, if you liked Three Wolf Moon, you’ll love Three Werewolf Moon.

Quackers
Quackers
13 years ago

@NWO

Once again, read a history book. Many more men sent other men to die in wars than women. Patriarchy sucks doesn’t it?

kladle
kladle
13 years ago

@Molly

Yeah. I have no idea how industrial wire stuff works. I thought those videos were pretty cool. This is why NWO should tell us more about wire splicing and less about feminazi fluoride farces.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Once again, read a history book. Many more men sent other men to die in wars than women. Patriarchy sucks doesn’t it?

Careful now, this is a man who thinks Lysistrata is, ahem, ripped from the headlines. He probably thinks Helen of Troy actually launched those thousand ships on her own as well.

Molly Ren
13 years ago

kladle: What kind of wire projects did you do? I’ve also experimented with it off and on. (Arts detrail!) 😀

NWOslave
NWOslave
13 years ago

@Quackers
“Once again, read a history book. Many more men sent other men to die in wars than women. Patriarchy sucks doesn’t it?”

Really? Out of all the women who were leaders, or were in a position of power like Hillary, what percentage of the went to war? I mean proportionally speaking, I think women have done quite well in the arena of war. I also don’t recall any of those women send other women to kill and die. Ya know, maybe let the men sit this one out.

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