The director of the first Human Centipede film – the one about a psychopathic doctor who sews three unwilling and unwitting captives together mouth-to-anus to make a sort of “centipede” — proudly declared that his film was “100% medically accurate.” That is, he found a doctor who was willing to say that if one were indeed to create such a centipede, the second and third segments (i.e., people) would be able to survive, provided that you supplemented their rather dismal diet with IV drips to give them the nutrition they were lacking.
This dubious claim to 100% accuracy came to mind today as I perused a post by the blogger who calls himself Dalrock, a manospherian nitwit with a penchant for pseudoscientific defenses of old-fashioned misogyny. In a post with the whimsical title “We are trapped on Slut Island and Traditional Conservatives are our Gilligan,” Dalrock argues that the best “solution” to out-of-wedlock births is some good old-fashioned slut shaming.
Here’s how he breaks down the (imaginary) numbers in a post that is “100% mathematically accurate” – which is to say, not accurate at all:
Assume we are starting off with 100 sluts and 30 alphas/players. The sluts are happily riding on the alpha carousel. Now we introduce slut shaming. It isn’t fully effective of course, but it manages to convince 15 of the would be sluts not to be sluts after all. This means an additional 15 women are again potentially suitable for marriage. This directly translates into fewer fatherless children. This also makes the next round of slut shaming easier. Instead of having 99 peers eagerly cheering her on her ride, each slut now has 15 happily married women shaming her and only 84 other sluts encouraging her. After the next round this becomes 30 happily married women shaming the sluts, and only 69 other sluts cheering them on, and so on. This process continues until all but the most die hard sluts are off the carousel. You will never discourage them all, but you can do a world better than we are doing today.
Why not shame the fathers as well, while we’re at it? Dalrock explains that this just doesn’t make good mathematical sense:
Start with the same base assumption of 100 sluts and 30 players. Now apply shame to the players. Unfortunately shame is less effective on players than it is on sluts, so instead of discouraging 15% of them (4.5) in the first round, it only discourages three of them. No problem!, says the Gilligan [the social conservative], at least there are now three fewer sluts now that three of the evil alphas have been shamed away, and all without creating any unhappy sluts! But unfortunately it doesn’t work that way. The remaining 27 players are more than happy to service the extra sluts. They are quite maddeningly actually delighted with the new situation. Even worse, the next round of player shaming is even less effective than the first. This time only 2 players are discouraged, and one of the other 3 realizes that his player peers are picking up the slack anyway and reopens for business. This means in net there are still 26 players, more than enough to handle all of the sluts you can throw at them.
Well, there’s no arguing with that!
Seriously, there’s no arguing with that, because it is an imaginary construct with only the most tenuous connection with how things work in the real world. “But … MATH!” doesn’t really work as an argument here, since human beings don’t actually behave according to simplistic mathematical formulas.
Film critic note: While the first Human Centipede film offered little more than a workmanlike treatment of a fantastical idea, the recently released sequel, which details the attempts of a deranged Human Centipede superfan to take human-centipeding to the next level, is actually sort of brilliant. If you like that sort of thing.
Holy shit, NWO, we all knew you sucked at reading comprehension, but must you go so far out of your way to prove it?
NWO, what do you think studies consist of? Do you think no questions are asked?
What do you like?
Dammit disregard the first sentence then.
““The two most significant findings of the study are that both men and women respond in a more hostile way to a woman who violates sex-role expectations, than to one who adheres to them. Secondly, that the more an individual supports social hierarchy in general (that some people should have more power and resources than others), the more hostile they responded toward a woman who violated sex-role expectations.”
Exactly how does that say women=good men=bad? it’s saying that both men AND women react badly towards a woman who rejects sex-role expectations. The second paragraph illustrates your attitude perfectly. You clearly think men should have more power than women, and when we disagree with you and tell you women have every right to disregard sex-role expectations, you react in a hostile manner.
Congratulations. You prove the study right.
“I’m 26. Past my prime?”
I think the limit’s 27, Holly. In a year, you and me will wither and die! *hand to forehead*
Molly, I’m 40, does that mean I’m a zombie now?
@Holly Pervocracy
“That’s funny, because I’m able to act like a man. My bilogy doesn’t stop me.”
I can act like a frog, but that doesn’t make me a frog. You can, “act” like a man, but you can never, “be” a man. Biology 101. Let’s betend is a game for little children. Grow up.
Did the study actually ask women if the “evil male gaze hinders their performance?”
Did it use those words exactly? show me.
“Let’s betend?” Never played that one before.
You’d think if we were bilogically unable to do things, then we couldn’t do them.
On that note, I make very nice scarves. You should take up knitting, NWO. It’s a rewarding hobby.
Intelligence 101: sex roles are not the same as actual sex.
@Quackers
You gave me the scientific link, you do the research. I have it on scientific authority that the male gaze hinders womens performance in math. It’s science.
No, it’s reporting on an opinion. If that study had been done (and it wasn’t and you know it), the headline would not be:
“Evil male gaze hinders women’s performance.”
It would be:
“Women report their performance is most often hindered by ‘the evil male gaze.'”
DO YOU GET THE DIFFERENCE HERE?
The women’s statements may be opinion, but the study isn’t. The survey actually happened, the women’s statements actually existed, and there is no opinion involved in telling people what those statements were.
Oh my god, he’s like a demented parrot. He learns a new word or phrase and won’t let go.
I posted 2 links to 2 studies. Nowhere did they say the evil male gaze hinders women’s math abilities. You pulled that out of your ass.
I’m pretty sure that despite all our attempts, NWO still believes the definition of science is: “The opinions of people in white coats who use big words.”
I really want to link him some scientific articles on respiratory infections in gerbils or something, just to see if he reacts “That’s just the opinion scientists have about gerbil lungs!”
@Dracula
“On that note, I make very nice scarves. You should take up knitting, NWO. It’s a rewarding hobby.”
I do something called a cable splice on which every plastic bottle in the world is transported. It’s kinda like knitting, or a type of sailors knot. It’s where you splice two ends of a steel cable together so it’s seemless. It takes about 4 hours and unfortunately your hands are quite bloodied afterwards due to being poked by the many strands. You don’t really notice all the little cuts until the end when you have to clean the cable with rubbing alchohol, then, yikes!
I wish he was a dedicated troll who is just doing this for the lulz. I really do. I can’t believe anyone’s reading comprehension is this bad. I’ve even seen other MRAs make their points more intelligently than NWO does.
See NWO, when you say non-hatey things like this, it kinda makes me not want to hate you. But when you start hating on women and blaming us for everything, it kinda does.
Also you should consider wearing work gloves when doing that.
“It takes about 4 hours and unfortunately your hands are quite bloodied afterwards due to being poked by the many strands. You don’t really notice all the little cuts until the end when you have to clean the cable with rubbing alchohol, then, yikes!”
Why can’t you use gloves? o.o
@Holly Pervocracy
“The women’s statements may be opinion, but the study isn’t. The survey actually happened, the women’s statements actually existed, and there is no opinion involved in telling people what those statements were.”
Except that the concusion of the study stated it as a fact, when in reality it was an opinion. What the study should have concluded with is, “in our opinion, we conclude that the opinions of these women has validity.”
There are no actual facts other than the fact of a study being done based on opinion, and the opinion of the group/person who did the study. Please tell me you don’t consider that science?
NWO, what kind of studies are valid, in your opinion?
@Molly Ren
“Why can’t you use gloves?”
Quite impossible. Just like knitting, it’s an artform. Try knitting with a pair of gloves think enough to stop a steel strand from poking thru. Not gonna happen.
NWO, you can’t use gloves with your splicing kits?
You can’t even slip on a pair of thin gloves before you put on the rubbing alcohol?
Is this what you’re talking about doing?
Or this?