The director of the first Human Centipede film – the one about a psychopathic doctor who sews three unwilling and unwitting captives together mouth-to-anus to make a sort of “centipede” — proudly declared that his film was “100% medically accurate.” That is, he found a doctor who was willing to say that if one were indeed to create such a centipede, the second and third segments (i.e., people) would be able to survive, provided that you supplemented their rather dismal diet with IV drips to give them the nutrition they were lacking.
This dubious claim to 100% accuracy came to mind today as I perused a post by the blogger who calls himself Dalrock, a manospherian nitwit with a penchant for pseudoscientific defenses of old-fashioned misogyny. In a post with the whimsical title “We are trapped on Slut Island and Traditional Conservatives are our Gilligan,” Dalrock argues that the best “solution” to out-of-wedlock births is some good old-fashioned slut shaming.
Here’s how he breaks down the (imaginary) numbers in a post that is “100% mathematically accurate” – which is to say, not accurate at all:
Assume we are starting off with 100 sluts and 30 alphas/players. The sluts are happily riding on the alpha carousel. Now we introduce slut shaming. It isn’t fully effective of course, but it manages to convince 15 of the would be sluts not to be sluts after all. This means an additional 15 women are again potentially suitable for marriage. This directly translates into fewer fatherless children. This also makes the next round of slut shaming easier. Instead of having 99 peers eagerly cheering her on her ride, each slut now has 15 happily married women shaming her and only 84 other sluts encouraging her. After the next round this becomes 30 happily married women shaming the sluts, and only 69 other sluts cheering them on, and so on. This process continues until all but the most die hard sluts are off the carousel. You will never discourage them all, but you can do a world better than we are doing today.
Why not shame the fathers as well, while we’re at it? Dalrock explains that this just doesn’t make good mathematical sense:
Start with the same base assumption of 100 sluts and 30 players. Now apply shame to the players. Unfortunately shame is less effective on players than it is on sluts, so instead of discouraging 15% of them (4.5) in the first round, it only discourages three of them. No problem!, says the Gilligan [the social conservative], at least there are now three fewer sluts now that three of the evil alphas have been shamed away, and all without creating any unhappy sluts! But unfortunately it doesn’t work that way. The remaining 27 players are more than happy to service the extra sluts. They are quite maddeningly actually delighted with the new situation. Even worse, the next round of player shaming is even less effective than the first. This time only 2 players are discouraged, and one of the other 3 realizes that his player peers are picking up the slack anyway and reopens for business. This means in net there are still 26 players, more than enough to handle all of the sluts you can throw at them.
Well, there’s no arguing with that!
Seriously, there’s no arguing with that, because it is an imaginary construct with only the most tenuous connection with how things work in the real world. “But … MATH!” doesn’t really work as an argument here, since human beings don’t actually behave according to simplistic mathematical formulas.
Film critic note: While the first Human Centipede film offered little more than a workmanlike treatment of a fantastical idea, the recently released sequel, which details the attempts of a deranged Human Centipede superfan to take human-centipeding to the next level, is actually sort of brilliant. If you like that sort of thing.
Young women (and some older ones) have an overinflated sense of the value of their vaginas. I mean, they have Wharton MBAs paying for exotic trips and they’re drinking Cosmos in the VIP with the Wizards. Why wouldn’t they? Since they are able to get such easy access to “alpha” dick, it follows logically that they should also have access to “alpha” wealth, marriage, and the lifestyle that accompanies all of that, right?
Okay, even playing into this “value of the vagina” thing flat out –
Well, I don’t know about the Wharton MBA’s, (Seriously, is there some crazy world out there for these guys I don’t know about?) but as for the sports stars, seriously, do you really not think the vast majority of those women know and fully accept marriage is not in the cards?
I swear to god
it’s like they think every groupie, girl-in-town, or sex worker dreams of marriage
…or something
YOu think because the alpha sleeps with you he wil marry you hahahahhaha
…no? I don’t think that often happens. Girls often know what the arrangement is. Usually, I’d say. They might think marriage is in the cards if there’s a significant relationship going on. And they’d have every right to think that, I’d say.
And besides, you don’t think a lot of those women know what the value is, because they are … You know, call girls? There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that arrangement, but do these MRA’s really think it’s just deluded women thinking they’ll be married?
Or… what?
Young women (and some older ones) have an overinflated sense of the value of their vaginas.
Honestly, I actually think it’s MEN (and MRAs particularly) who seem to have this overinflated sense of the “value” of our sex organs… e_e
Damn straight.
It’s weird that our trolls will on one hand argue that women shouldn’t be in combat because we suck at everything, especially fighting and we’ll get all our male comrades killed, and then on the other hand claim that excluding women from the draft is because our government treasures women and hates men when they’ve just given the EXACT argument that is a big reason women aren’t considered for drafts… because people did not think we’d make effective soldiers and in fact would be a hindrance.
And for the record, I’m against all drafts… but if you’re going to have it, it’s ridiculous to make your army less effective by excluding half of your potential soldiers. e_e (did I mention I’m against drafts?)
YOu think because the alpha sleeps with you he wil marry you hahahahhaha
…no? I don’t think that often happens. Girls often know what the arrangement is.
And adding that I don’t buy the whole alpha thing at all, but in terms of “Rich famous guy and girls he sleeps with” my points stand.
Ami:
It’s weird that our trolls will on one hand argue that women shouldn’t be in combat because we suck at everything, especially fighting and we’ll get all our male comrades killed, and then on the other hand claim that excluding women from the draft is because our government treasures women and hates men when they’ve just given the EXACT argument that is a big reason women aren’t considered for drafts… because people did not think we’d make effective soldiers and in fact would be a hindrance.
And for the record, I’m against all drafts… but if you’re going to have it, it’s ridiculous to make your army less effective by excluding half of your potential soldiers. e_e (did I mention I was against drafts?)
that one
Exactly,.
In other news, The Human Centipede director also has a hilariously bad art gallery online with paintings such as “Earwax Sandwich” and “Skidmarks.” Basically, picture a man with no skill at painting and coasting on the sort of gross-out shock value a fourth grader would find edgy.
What I can’t figure out is why anyone gave him money to make that…I was going to say piece of shit, but maybe that’s bit too literal in this case.
@NWOSalve:
Interesting.
1) If the child’s father is dead, does the mother get to kill the murderer, or does the role of executioner get granted to the closest surviving male relative of the child?
2) Does the state (in the form of the police) gather evidence, organize a jury, appoint a judge, and so on, and then if the defendant is found guilty then hand the role of executioner to the father? Or is the father the judge, jury, and executioner?
@Meller Ok ok I know asexuality is only 1% or so of the population but considering we are at about 7 billon that’s quite a few. Also Poole other than asexuals have low libidos or other reasons they don’t want to or like having sex. So what will your proposed society do with these non sexual women? They won’t want to have sex in thier marriage and they most certainly won’t want to be trained as a sex slave. They probably won’t wan to be nuns I thy are not religous so??? Will they be allowed to live life as free people with lives and jobs? Or forced to be sexual one way or another?
People* if the* (sorry typing on my iPod is sometime fail)
Also, technically speaking the mother in this scenario didn’t actually kill the fetus herself, so she’s not the murderer, she’s just an accomplice. The doctor is the murderer. (If we pretend any of this makes sense, which it doesn’t.)
Going by the principle of crank magnetism, what do we want to bet that Slavey is a big fan for the nuremberg files?
@Matthew Cline: or 3) a couple of the town’s menfolk get together and do some drinking, find a funny-lookin’ furriner, blame the whole thing on him, and have a lynching to let off some steam. Duh. Justice!
(Full confession, I don’t have any idea what scenario y’all are discussing that my option 3 proposes to address. Luckily mobs and lynchings are one-size-fits-all in the Mellerverse!)
“Interesting.
1) If the child’s father is dead, does the mother get to kill the murderer, or does the role of executioner get granted to the closest surviving male relative of the child?
2) Does the state (in the form of the police) gather evidence, organize a jury, appoint a judge, and so on, and then if the defendant is found guilty then hand the role of executioner to the father? Or is the father the judge, jury, and executioner?”
Indeed. And once again… How high are my Womb Police taxes going to be? It really does seem like policing women’s bodies is the main expense of your entire government system? Again, are there schools, prisons, courts? You say we vote, so how many elected officials? What’s going on here? It really seems like you love the state a lot more than I do, NWO, whether I must be a statist or not?
Oh look, Doyourownresearch is Phillyboy81, or someone who copied his comment, and Marky Mark thinks what he has to say is really neat! Imagine that!
INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT!!! Plot thickens!
DKM also hasn’t explained who is going to force all the women into brothels.
Bee:
Cops have been known to laugh at people who’ve actually been raped, though, so that doesn’t prove anything. But if you attempt to revoke consent retroactively most feminists will laugh at you (or worse).
Mouseling:
IRTA “Oxycontin ranting”
Molly Ren:
Wasn’t there an O.Henry story along those lines?
Slavey:
I’m sorry someone in high school told you “gullible” wasn’t in the dictionary, but that doesn’t mean that everyone who attmpts to impart information is trying to trick or trap you.
Slavey:
How the hell do you know? And why do you think you know better than she does?
Ami:
Can I be the floating dude in the red dress?
Well, to be accurate Slavey is agreeing that Quackers cares about it. He didn’t mean to, but he is. :p
Phillyboy81? Really? So… I guess the tragically unlaid bitter Wharton MBA is probably totally hypothetical, you guys! XD
Well, cops laughing at someone (or, more to the point, not taking them seriously) who says they now regret their consensual sex, so they want to call it rape, shows that women who do that won’t be able to have their sex partners arrested, which was what the milkslave was trying to claim …
DKM also hasn’t explained who is going to force all the women into brothels.
Well, he claims it’s not force because it’s the natural consequence. Though he still doesn’t explain what happens if you don’t want to be in a brothel. And… He still has to explain why the family and not the individual has so much authority in supposed libertarianism.
There are so many things wouldn’t work in Meller’s perfect world. What if the family of the support her wish not to marry and not to become a prostitute and have a job? Does the police come and take her to the brothel by force? By the way, what happens to her if she escape it?
What happens if the father/husband of the woman is dead, who gets to own her? What if she marries, then cheat. Can the husband send her to the brothel? What if the husband cheats?
What if the husband is unhappy because his wife don’t want to have sex, is she still sent to a brothel? Same question if she’s an abusive spouse and a violent person, why would you think she would be a good prostitute? Anyway, same question for all independent women: if the ‘problem’ is that she want to be a firefighter or whatever, why would she be an obedient prostitute?
Also, what happens when a prostitute gets pregnant? Still no to abortion? Is the brothel a good place to raise a kid? Does the father (if he is known, which would obviously not be easy to find out) have to raise the kid? Does the state take the child from it’s mother arm to give to another family?
The only way it works is that if that if everybody is brainwashed into liking this system or if an all-powerful state enforce the rule and put in prison/to death every women who refuse to obey the rules.
This part really confused me, as I couldn’t believe it was sincere and not mockery.
And I though good guys (well, nice guys, but that seems to be synonym here) were always the loosers because girls only likes assholes and bad boy.
*blow a kiss to her not-athletic PhD-student geeky boyfriend*
Okay, DKM has got to be a troll. I mean, acting like he’s surprised at the reactions to his suggestion of forcing non-housewives to be prostitutes in brothels?
Off topic, but check out this classic bit of insanity;
CyclotronMajesty
Yes, we are deeply in a matriarchy. Men have no social power whatsoever. It all is regulated by the female. And they are all whores.
He is, which does not means he is not sincere. You must no forget that he bases his idea of a good human on dolls, which never act, never age and never have opinions that could differ from his.