A lot of guys who try online dating (of the heterosexual kind) complain that they send out message after message to the ladies and get no responses. Now, I’m no dating expert, but I would like to offer these gentlemen a piece of advice that I feel could dramatically improve their chances. Here it is:
If the message you are sending the lass you fancy would get upvotes on The Spearhead, do not send it.
This seems like a fairly self-evident point, but it’s one that a lot of guys don’t seem to understand, at least judging from some of the awful online come-ons posted at the always fabulous A(n)nals of Online Dating. Take this fella:
[M]en have an obligation to rescue kittens from burning buildings, pay for your drinks, hold the door open for you, keep their hair neat, go to war and many other things. I’m just saying… Society worldwide really does put more obligations on men than women all around. There are few things women have to do… Shaving your legs is one of them.
I’m not sure how exactly this topic came up in conversation, but I’m pretty sure that Mr. Mammoth-Hunting Kitten-Rescuing Door-Holder-Opener and Lady Who Doesn’t Shave Her Legs are probably not a match made in Internet heaven.
This guy’s strategy is also somewhat problematic:
A so-cal Brooklyn transplant who believes in grammar, manners, music, and humor. I’m nice to my mother, always smile at dogs and babies, and am in the process of pleading that statutory rape charge down to a misdemeanor.
Yeah, it’s probably not a good idea to open with a joke about raping underage girls. Assuming it is a joke.
This message would be a bad idea regardless of gender:
RON PAUL REVOLUTION!! GIVE US BACK OUR CONSTITUTION!!!! lol sorry
Sorry indeed.
This next fellow is a bit of a Stealth Misogynist, in that he starts out with some actual compliments directed toward an actual women. Really creepy compliments, but complements nonetheless. Then we get a plot twist that’s about as shocking as the big reveal in M. Night Shyamalan’s The Village. Which is to say, so obvious that it could probably be spotted from space.
When I look at you I see very happy, fun loving, sexy, good girl. I love looking through your photos, I only wish there were more. Do you enjoy being obedient to the male figures in your life?
David K. Meller, is that you?
Now I’m thinking FactFinder and Brandon would be a match made in heaven. They could bloviate each other to death.
Ah, romance.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/1335/arrested-development-plastic-fruit-eating
http://www.hulu.com/watch/1109/arrested-development-ocean-walker
@shaenon
lawyer was at least equally probable
Ah, romance.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/1335/arrested-development-plastic-fruit-eating
http://www.hulu.com/watch/1109/arrested-development-ocean-walker
maybe factfinder isnt smart either. i didnt know until they told me.
lawyer was at least equally probable
Yes, but he’d already demonstrated ignorance of the law, so it was down to either “IT guy” or “pretending to be a lawyer.”
“I thought feminists wanted to end stereotypes”
Stereotypes are usually based on something in reality.
Feminists are individuals. So while some may want to “end” stereotypes, others see some use for them.
@NC4OM:
Right, I think you’ve already identified yourself as an individual who may not share a lot of the same views as others… but really?
Can you name one situation where the outcome is better for all concerned when somebody makes a judgement about somebody else because of their race, sex, etc? Stereotypes are only superficially useful, in the “well, I can make a decision without a lot of evidence.” The problem should be obvious; you now believe you have support for your decision that doesn’t actually exist.
Wonder why bigots always seem to be so sure of themselves? Because they believe that stereotypes are good evidence. Small hint, they aren’t.
I guess black people are usually of low intelligence but high athletic ability in your world, eh?
Factfinder-
Actually most (if not all) states put statutory rape in a different category than rape due to mental incapacitation or defect.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/ovc/publications/infores/statutoryrape/handbook/statrape.pdf
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2003/olrdata/jud/rpt/2003-r-0376.htm
Yes, but he’d already demonstrated ignorance of the law, so it was down to either “IT guy” or “pretending to be a lawyer.”
if he were a transactional lawyer or something theres no reason he couldnt overestimate what he understood about rape and then act like a dick on the internet about it.
lawyers are specialists, but a lot of them love to forget it as soon as they have to opportunity to offer their opinions.
Right up until those opinions are legal advice, anyway.
“Stereotypes are only superficially useful”
But still useful, that’s my point.
Exactly! If you need help with a math problem, all you have to do is go to Chinatown. Those Asians are so clever, bless their hearts.
NC4OM, I know you are motherfucking stupid, but Kirby isn’t saying they’re useful. “Superficial”. they possess the veneer of usefulness. They are not actually so.
Oh come on you PCers…. you know damn well that if you’re sitting next to a dude on an airplane and casual conversation ensues, as it often does in such situations, and he tells you that he’s the blogmaster of an MRA site – you can pretty much surmise what the content will be, without even ever having to check it out.
Once again – NC4OM, actually a feminist but an idiotic one, or really clever troll?
Troll. I think mentioning Susan Walsh was a slip.
There was a poster on MRA boards called “No country for old men”, he’s been around for awhile.
So I’d have to ask NC4OM! Being that you’ve pretended to be a feminist on this board and the feminists on this board have shot your pretend ideas down, have you rethought your ideas about feminism at all?
Probably not. From what I remember nc4om is another lonely person who blames what he perceives to be the establishment for his lack of life.
I almost feel bad really – he’s trying SO HARD to get someone, anyone, here to agree that we really are evil hateful monsters, but no one is biting. Won’t someone throw him a bone?
I’m an evil hateful monster! Raaarrrgggh! I hate men and eat penises for breakfast, lunch and dinner! *makes raptor claws with hands*
I totally believe that we should execute anyone accused of rape. No need to hold a trial or collect evidence or anything, we’ll just shoot them. With a bright pink feminist gun, for great justice.
And, um, something about yoga?
“Pretend” Feminist? May I ask what I’ve I written, even ONE comment, to make you think I’m a “pretend” feminist? That came totally out of left field and makes no sense whatsoever.
“I almost feel bad really – he’s trying SO HARD to get someone, anyone, here to agree that we really are evil hateful monsters, but no one is biting.”
You mean Fact Finder, right? You can’t be talking about me because nowhere have I ever accused anyone here of being an evil hateful monster. If anything your views are too “nice” – pc and feel goody to me.
And no, mentioning SW’s blog was not a “slip up”. Why would it be?
Since you know her blog its obvious you’ve been there too.
I stand by what I said regarding stereotypes. I fail to see how you’ve connected that to me somehow being a man and that to a non-feminist one.
You can’t be talking about me because nowhere have I ever accused anyone here of being an evil hateful monster. If anything your views are too “nice” – pc and feel goody to me.
You’re not even trying now.
False flag feminist fails feasibility?
(NC4OM several pages back in the Lesbianism by numbers thread)
i dont think nc4om is a troll. i had a close friend in college who was just discovering feminism but wasnt ready to give up the rest of her traditional worldview. a lot of the shit nc4om says could have come out of her mouth.