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MRA: Who cares if #MenCallYouThings? It’s not like women have any real problems.

Fried rice. Frequently confused with "fried ice."

Oh, ladies, must you complain so much? I mean, who cares if every time you say something on the internet some random dude threatens to rape you? White and Nerdy, the dude behind the Omega Virgin Revolt blog, doesn’t care, and he wants you to know it:

#mencallmethings is just another example of how women (in first world countries) don’t have any actual problems.  Between the government and manginas doing everything for women, no woman has any true problems.  Any “problem” a woman has is because of one of these reasons:

1. A desire for the equivalent of fried ice.  IOW she wants something that is physically impossible.

2. Failed attempts at defrauding, stealing from, or otherwise attempting to enslave men.

That’s it.  When a woman has to go through 1% of what a typical non-alpha man has to go through then maybe she can talk about having actual problems.  Until that happens women should keep their mouths shut.

Exactly. We need to stop talking about men raping women to focus on the much more important issue of women not having sex with White and Nerdy.

But I am wondering about one thing. Is it possible that the women in question were asking for fried rice instead of fried ice? Because fried rice is totally a thing, and if you call up the proper restaurant someone will literally bring it to your door.

Now I’m hungry.

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Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

Actually, I plan on getting a vasectomy soon.

I felt something… as if a million uteri suddenly cried out in joy then were happy.

zhinxy
13 years ago

@Bagelsan: I would rather go to jail, than pay you a dime if you claimed me as the father. So the court can bitch all they want, you wouldn’t get shit from me. –

Again, you seem to really see this as about women, not children that need care and support. I agree that we need huge reform of our family and child support systems. But it’s not going to go anywhere unless we all realize that this is about CHILDREN, not women, greedy, lying, or otherwise bad.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

@Bagelsan: I would rather go to jail, than pay you a dime if you claimed me as the father. So the court can bitch all they want, you wouldn’t get shit from me.

Brave words! Because it’s definitely a very real threat that I might get you thrown in jail for not financially supporting our invisible Canadian baby. Fight the Man, Brandon! ^^

zhinxy
13 years ago

He’s lucky that my imaginary libertarian baby would rather die than use the evil statist family court system.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

@zhinxy: Brandon wants me and our invisible Canadian baby to live in poverty, while he has all the videotaped sex he likes in prison! Truly that noble sacrifice will teach me a lesson for writing bad fanfic about him. Woe is Baby Brangelsan. 😀

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Brandon, you talking about getting a vasectomy is the first sensible thing you’ve ever said here, and I’m not snarking you.

Other than that, you have no idea how the world works.

zhinxy
13 years ago

@Bagelsan – OMG, Brangelsan <3 I now demand we take up invisible funds for this invisible baby!

Brandon
Brandon
13 years ago

@darksidecat: If every hospital was required to give paternity tests, then that clearly is a need.

Artificial scarcity only really works with proprietary products and commodities. Any medical supply manufacturer can make plastic cups, tubes, needles and the everything else that is required to determine paternity.

If the woman is falsely claiming you as the father…then you clearly ARENT making babies with her.

The war in Iraq is costing a quarter of a billion dollars a day, according to this old MSNBC article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15377059/ns/business-answer_desk/t/how-much-war-iraq-costing-us/

So the notion that the federal government is spending only 10 million a day is laughable.

Who are you to decide this isn’t important for men? Most of the men that I talk to about this might not be pro-paternity tests at birth, but they are hardly not against hospitals doing it.

What odd paranoia’s? The fact that at a bare minimum, thousands of men are paying money for children they 1) didn’t help create or 2) legally sign paperwork declaring them the legal guardian.

If you want to view it as me saying “98% of women are liars”, go right ahead. I actually am not even thinking of women as part of the solution to this. I just think men should have hard evidence proving they are or aren’t the father. Women actually have very little do to with it.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

As long as those invisible funds are in invisible Canadian dollars, eh! My baby fucking loves those socialist commie Canucks. 😀

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

but they are hardly not against hospitals doing it.

…wut? So they are against it?

Brandon
Brandon
13 years ago

@Bagelsan: You aren’t a threat to me. At a bare minimum, you would have to know my last name and what city I live in. Which you know neither.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

I actually am not even thinking of women as part of the solution to this.

You’re not even thinking. At all.

Besides, if this is such an epidemic, I guess men have some choices. Only sleep with people they know to be trustworthy, always use a condom or get a vasectomy, or don’t have sex. Crisis averted!

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

I just think men should have hard evidence proving they are or aren’t the father.

I think “hard evidence” is what got them into that situation in the first place…

Women actually have very little do to with it.

…Sooomeone doesn’t know how is babby formed!

Brandon
Brandon
13 years ago

@HellKell: Or maybe women should actually claim the actual father on the birth certificate. But I guess that is asking too much.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

@Bagelsan: You aren’t a threat to me. At a bare minimum, you would have to know my last name and what city I live in. Which you know neither.

But if I did know your last name I could totally sue you for child support for our nonexistent baby and the courts wouldn’t bat an eye! And then I’d steal all your money! And then you would go to jail forever! Because that’s a totally realistic and not at all paranoid scenario that happens in real life! XD

zhinxy
13 years ago

@HellKell: Or maybe women should actually claim the actual father on the birth certificate. But I guess that is asking too much.

By and large, they do. That’s why mandatory paternity testing is a stupid idea.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Brandon, you just said women have nothing to do with it. I’m choosing to take you at your words.

zhinxy
13 years ago

And if a man thinks otherwise, he can request a paternity test. Again, why not think about starting a fund for men who can’t afford them? All more sensible than creating some far reaching government paternity system.

Brandon
Brandon
13 years ago

@Bagelsan: Umm…no. For one there would actually have to be a child and two, you would have to live near me, If you live in Montana, I doubt you would get a penny since I have never been there.

But nice try blowing this out of proportion.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Instead of this silly mandatory testing bone you won’t let go of Brandon, why don’t you just state your real premise, which can be distilled to “bitches ain’t shit.” It’s what it always boils down to with you.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
13 years ago

…Actually, in Ethan of Athos women don’t have anything to do with it. And I didn’t see any mention of paternity fraud there, either. OMG MRA utopia! (Or they could go the famous fanfic mpreg route, but I think Bujold novels are somewhat classier.)

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

@: For one, you are forgetting about economies of scale. If every child was given a paternity test at birth, the price of those tests would go down since there would be a massive need for them. Just like everything else, the more people buy a product, the cheaper it gets in the future.

You have such an incredible lack of critical thinking skills. Brandon, has the economy of scale had any appreciable effect on the costs of health care? Because, last I checked, the costs of healthcare (which paternity costs barely qualify as) has and continues to rise steadily. And even if your incredible, and baseless assumption were accurate, how long would it take for this reduction in costs to take place? Where will the funding come from cor institiution of such a program? What’s the plan for the inevitable lawsuits that will arise from errors? Who will be in charge of oversight? Will it be done publically or privately?

And how on is any of this superior to a man who doesn’t trust his partner/woman who states that she’s pregnant with his child using the gestation period to put together $400 and paying for a test?

zhinxy
13 years ago

I gotta finally read the dang Vorkosigan saga…

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Bagelsan, you’re right. And once DKMs dreams of fembots and artificial wombs are realized, there’ll be no need for paternity testing! Whoo-hoo!

Brandon
Brandon
13 years ago

@Zhinxy: And most men don’t rape…that makes government paid rape kits a stupid idea.

Also, paternity test results after child support has been established are often not taken into account. So the earlier you can establish paternity the better.

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