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Showdown: #MenCallMeThings versus The Catalogue of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics

The most common “critique” of the #mencallmethings hashtag  that blew up on Twitter last week was that the women posting examples of misogynistic shit they got called online were making a big deal out of nothing. As the always-charming Ferdinand Bardamu so memorably put it:

It’s funny, then, that when MRAs find themselves described with less-than-flattering language they have a strange tendency to act like they’ve suddenly been struck with a case of the vapors. Witness the reaction of MRAs when someone calls them the “c-word.” No, not “cunt” – “creep.” As one outraged Men’s Rights Redditor recently put it, in a comment with 30+ net upvotes:

Creep shaming is probably one of the most insidious and anti-equality things you can do. The ability to label men as “creepy” is just one privilege that women enjoy, and a constant source of fear of ostracizing that all men must fear in our society.

When MRAs feel themselves being oppressed by such clearly man-hating language, they often refer to something called the Catalogue of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics, which, well, catalogues their language grievances in detail. According to the author of the  Catalogue,

Shaming tactics are emotional devices meant to play on a man’s insecurities and shut down debate.  They are meant to elicit sympathy for women and to demonize men who ask hard questions.  Most, if not all, shaming tactics are basically ad homimem attacks.

Such shaming tactics, the author of the Catalogue says, with no evident awareness of the irony, are often used by “histrionic …  female detractors who refuse to argue their points with logic” and the male “gynocentrists” who ally with them.

Here are some of the awful “shaming” remarks that get directed at MRAs, according to the Catalogue of Shaming Tactics:

 “Stop whining!”

 “Suck it up like a man!”

“You need to get over your anger at women.”

“You’re afraid of a strong woman!”

“You are so immature!”

“You are just bitter because you can’t get laid.”

“Are you gay?”

 “That’s a sexist stereotype!”

 “You need therapy.”

“You make me feel afraid.”

 “Weirdo!”

 “Loser!”

“You are so materialistic.”

 “No woman will marry you with that attitude.”

“You are insensitive to the plight of women.”

Did someone just use the word "creep?"

Is that last one even an insult? It’s a fairly accurate description of a lot of MRAs, who take a certain pride in being “insensitive to the plight of women.”

So now that we’ve seen the horrible abuse that MRAs have to put up with on a daily basis, let’s take a quick look at some of the things that women and feminists regularly get from their detractors, as posted to the #mencallmethings hashtag and sent to Sady Doyle, who originated the hashtag. (These are all taken from a great post she did in the aftermath of #mencallmethings’ big blowup.) I think you will find the comparison instructive.  Let’s start with the more straightforward slurs. (TRIGGER WARNING for, well, just about everything in the quotes that follow.)

Slut, cunt, bitch, whore, ugly, dyke, lesbo, unfuckable, crazy, delusional, liar, hysterical, autistic bitch child, feminazi,  ballbuster, humorless, heartless whore, man hater, misandrist, stupid little girl, shrieky hysterical moron, airhead, spoiled little princess, stupid bitch, stupid fucking cunt, stupid feminazi cunt, an ugly bitter little woman, cumm guzzling closet lesbian, a pseudo-intellectual Insane Oversensitive Humourless Female supremacist.

Now let’s move on to complete sentences:

 “You’re an ugly fucking cunt.”

“That sort of smirk is why God invented anal sex.”  

“you’re so ugly you look like you have downs syndrome, you’d be thankful to be raped.”

“hope you catch a sexually transmitted disease or vagina cancer, cuntwit.”

”Stick a dildo up your dry vagina.”

“the only time your mouth should be open is when i’m putting my d–k in it”

“Your just a gay cunt who deserves to be punished.”

“A firm backhand to her whore face would provide her with a much needed attitude adjustment.”  

“Fuck you bitch….ya need to get beat like ur pops use to do to u.”

“I hope you never have children, your daughters would be such sluts and end up murdered in a gutter by someone like me.”

 You’re “not worth the effort to murder.”  

“[The] only tragedy is that a bullet didn’t rip through ur brainstem after u were used 4 ur 1 & only purpose in this world.”

“what a long winded bitch. You certainly do need to be gagged.”

“You’re an annoying bitch with no friends.I’d love to run you over with my truck.”

“you stupid bitch, I should fuck the crazy right out of you.”

”i surely hope that one day you get raped.”

“[You] can’t be a female scientist, that phrase is an oxymoron,”

“it’s painfully obvious you’re a woman, get off the internet.”

“I will fuck your ass to death you filthy fucking whore. Your only worth on this planet is as a warm hole.”

“Do you need to file a hurt feelings report?”

As I noted before, despite my general unpopularity in the MRA world, I tend to get fewer of these things than, for example, most feminist bloggers with a similar degree of internet notoriety. But I get them. Here, for example, is the latest comment I’ve gotten from the guy who calls himself Nugganu, a sort of follow-up to a previous comment I quoted earlier in which he imagined me raped by ten black men:

He certainly does have a vivid imagination.

But, yeah, somehow it’s a little hard for me to feel a ton of sympathy for MRAs who so regularly work themselves into a lather over “shaming language” like “creep” and “loser” and “you are insensitive to the plight of women.”

 

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Kate
Kate
13 years ago

Ya, it makes some, but I think that maybe you should look at the people around you and understand that when you’re throwing the water over the side they might have a point when they keep yelling to mind the baby.

And with that I’m off to bed (why must people work for a living? why must sleep be compulsory? why do I always have to go when things are getting interesting? sigh)

evilwhitemalempire
evilwhitemalempire
13 years ago

Is that last one even an insult? It’s a fairly accurate description of a lot of MRAs, who take a certain pride in being “insensitive to the plight of women.”

***********

Yes, we do pride ourselves in not seeing pink elephants whenever certain females and their sycophantic fucktards with agendas want us to.

Quackers
Quackers
13 years ago

OOOoooo, self defense mode! Am I supposed to be afraid. Oh no! you made me afraid! Are you threatening me?

Nope. Just saying guys like you, guys who are so full of anger and hate towards women, tends to make us get defensive. Luckily I have not met any guys like you in real life, but just knowing you exist just makes those walls go up a little more 🙂

Spearhafoc
13 years ago

Are you threatening me?

Yes.

I am now threatening you with the full force of the One World Government. Don’t think my puppet masters don’t know where you live, NWOslave. The only reason you have yet to be taken by our Men with Black Hats is that our Illuminati overlords find you amusing. Make no mistake though, your novelty will soon wear thin and you’ll find yourself first in line for a brain-wipe*.

*I’ve contacted them with concerns that wiping your brain wouldn’t actually make a difference, but they still seem to think it’s the way to go. I can’t argue with the Illuminati. No, really, I can’t argue with them.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Can we send the Men in Black instead? I want to borrow their blinky light thing.

Rutee Katreya
13 years ago

Still waiting.

Keep on doing it, I promise you that serious engagement with a clown like you is my top priority.

No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
13 years ago

NWOslave: “@No Cuntry 4 Old Men! No time to read anything you post vile creature.”

LOL, but you have plenty of time to come on this blog and read and write all kinds of stuff, eh?

Anyway your avoidance puts you in good company, with Cassandra and Rutee. 🙂

I’ll ask again, NWOslave, are you an Islamophile, and if so, why?

Cassandra,

“No one is going to engage with you until you knock off the hyperbole and the OMG PANIC SHARIA IN EUROPE WILL HAPPEN NEXT WEEK alarmist stuff.”

I never EVER said such a thing. I don’t believe such a thing. Rather, this is nothing more than a belief that you and Ruttee have projected onto me because I hold the opinion that Islam as an ideology is problematic wrt womens rights and religious freedom and needs to be revised, updated and feminized.

For the life of me I fail to see where either of you have a problem with that opinion. And neither of you have been able to articulate exactly what your issues with that opinion of mine are.

Is it that you think Islam does not need to be revised, updated and feminized?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Also, I’m now imagining them opening a locker somewhere and finding an actually society full of tiny MRAs living there. Maybe we can figure out a way to squeeze Meller in there so he can finally be happy.

ozymandias42
13 years ago

NWO, why, thank you. I am glad you support my efforts to make femininity an acceptable choice for men. 🙂

Also, your opinion on BDSM sounds surprisingly similar to that of the radfems you claim to loathe… just saying.

I have no idea what feminizing Islam even means. Giving it eyeliner and a pair of sensible heels?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Thank you for that demonstation of why people think you’re a zealot, NC4OM.

I think she should make herself a sign-off like Meller used to use.

REVISED, UPDATED, AND FEMINIZED!!!

ozymandias42
13 years ago

Ooh! Ooh! I’m a sympathetic fucktard with an agenda now! I should put that on my luggage.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Replacing the thobe with a frilly pink dress?

This seems impractical.

No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
13 years ago

“Still waiting.”

“Keep on doing it, I promise you that serious engagement with a clown like you is my top priority.”

You can’t. You have failed over and over again to do anything but make shrill accusations of “racism” where there is absolutely zero proof of such.

Matthew Cline
Matthew Cline
13 years ago

I’ve contacted them with concerns that wiping your brain wouldn’t actually make a difference, but they still seem to think it’s the way to go.

The Foundation has some class-C amnesiacs which will work wonders.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

But seriously, I too would like to know how one feminizes a religion. And why anyone would think that the other, non-Islamic religions have been feminized, because they all seem pretty male-dominated to me.*

*OK, maybe not Wicca. Though I’ve met some sexist Wiccans too.

Spearhafoc
13 years ago

I have no idea what feminizing Islam even means. Giving it eyeliner and a pair of sensible heels?

The morning call to prayer would sound so much better with some Lady Gaga. And those pink turbans are simply darling!

felixBC
felixBC
13 years ago

“I think that maybe you should look at the people around you and understand that when you’re throwing the water over the side they might have a point when they keep yelling to mind the baby.”

Thanks Kate, well said.

No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
13 years ago

“But seriously, I too would like to know how one feminizes a religion.”

One way is to ordain female clergy, as is done within reform Judaism and several sects of Christianity.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

You know, if we’re assigning gender to random non-living things, I’d say that minarets are already rather feminine, as architecture goes.

I suppose I’m not allowed to think they’re pretty as that would make me an MRA, or something.

Snowy
Snowy
13 years ago

OMG Spear she already feminized Christianity!!! Islam is obviously next.

NWOslave
NWOslave
13 years ago

@No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
“I’ll ask again, NWOslave, are you an Islamophile, and if so, why?”

Last comment of the night.

No I’m not. To be honest I don’t really know much about it. However I know one of the pillars is Not making money off of money, (fractional banking). Which I love. Fractional banking was unlawful in pretty much every country in the world at one time or another. However those damn banker, kill, murder, bribe, coerce, extort , start wars. Hell, they even fund feminism.

Now you wanna answer my question? Did you sign the petition for men to retain the right of innocense.

Although I pretty much know the answer. The rest of the gang didn’t sign, while you fully endorsed mens guilt being assumed. You might have even lobbied for it. Some of the gang may have lobbied for it as well.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

As yet another example of zealotry and why it’s offputting…why would you assume that Slavey is pro-Islam? He’s never said anything to that effect. It’s bit silly to just assume that any philosophy or movement that you dislike is associated with all the other ones you dislike.

No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
13 years ago

Cassandra,

“But seriously, I too would like to know how one feminizes a religion.”

— One very effective way is to ordain female clergy, as is done within reform Judaism and several sects of Christianity.

NWO,

“No I’m not. To be honest I don’t really know much about it. However I know one of the pillars is Not making money off of money, (fractional banking). Which I love.”

— The 5 pillars are good. The only possibly problematic one is Hajj, and its not a requirement, but is highly encouraged.

ozymandias42
13 years ago

Troll 1: Catholicism doesn’t have female clergy. Does Catholicism need to be feminized too? o.O

Troll 2: Last comment? Will he stick the landing?

No, I didn’t, because I didn’t find a source that wasn’t YOU. Once you’ve called me a slut more than five times, I no longer take your advice. It’s a weird quirk of mine.

Joe: FWIW, I think you got jumped on more than you deserved. I mean, you said some problematic stuff, but nothing dogpile worthy. 🙁

Spearhafoc
13 years ago

@ NWOslave: Protip – It’s spelled “innocence”.

One way is to ordain female clergy, as is done within reform Judaism and several sects of Christianity.

Yeah, just like womankind’s biggest pal, the Catholic Church!

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