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Lesbianism by numbers, courtesy of the Men’s Rights subreddit. Plus kitties.

They're probably feminists too.

The smirky MRA douchebag thingsarebad didn’t win a lot of friends when he used to comment here. Ironically, it seems that he’s not doing that much better over on Reddit’s Men’s Rights subreddit, where his comments tend to garner about as many downvotes as upvotes. Yes, it is possible to be too much of a douche for even the highly douche-tolerant Men’s Rights subreddit.

Anyway, all that is a sort of rambling prelude to my main point here, which is: thingsarebad has figured out that whole “lesbian” thing, and wants to share his results with the world. Also, feminism. His science is tight.

Confused a bit by that explanation? Would you like a much, much longer explanation, replete with fake statistics he’s “mentated” out of his ass? Well, prepare yourself a stiff drink and take a look at this megacomment of his from earlier in that same thread.

We’ll just wait here while you digest all that.

Done? Share your thoughts below, or check out the ShitRedditSays discussion of it all.

Or just watch this video of a rather portly cat climbing into a vase.

Hey, I promised a kitty video to someone in the comments here a couple of days ago. I may be a little slow sometimes, but I am a man of my word.

While I’m at it, here’s a bonus vid of a kitty and a Kleenex box.

 

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No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
10 years ago

Oh, alright.

Dave, do you have any current pics?

katz
10 years ago

He does, but he thinks it’s unfair to post them because it means he automatically wins the discussion.

(Point of order: it would be OK to discuss Islam in the forums if ppl wanted, right?)

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

I’m still confused as to how pictures are supposed to prove anything in this context. Unless he’s trying to prove that he’s a real person and not a bot?

I think we’re all clear on the him being a real person thing, in that he’s far too rambling and incoherent to be an AI.

No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
10 years ago

“He does, but he thinks it’s unfair to post them because it means he automatically wins the discussion.”

WTF?!?!?!?

I like Dave’s writing, its witty and smart, and I wanted to see what he looked like. I asked him once before and IIRC he referred me to a link but I forgot.

“I’m still confused as to how pictures are supposed to prove anything in this context. Unless he’s trying to prove that he’s a real person and not a bot?”

How can a blog host be a “bot”?

No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
10 years ago

My god, reading some of those Reddit verbal attacks reminds me why I favor the death penalty for rape. And definetely favor the death penalty for child rape. Bye bye NWOslave.

FactFinder
10 years ago

My god, reading some of those Reddit verbal attacks reminds me why I favor the death penalty for rape.
That seems very fair and rational and not based on one or two bad experiences and an overemotional nature. If you think this is sexist because I saw you were overemotional and pointed it out, I kindly invite you to take your hurt out on me and get it out of your system. Unlike yourself, I do not let one or two bad experiences with the opposite sex affect me.

No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
10 years ago

FF, I’ve had overwhelmingly good experiences in my romantic relationships with men. Remember, I’m South Asian and hence one of those “feminine” women that guys like you pedastalize. I’ve always treated my men with love and respect and got the same back. I also choose my partners well. No riff raff.

I’ve long held that rape should be met with the death penalty and that this would actually SAVE mens’ lives from ruin because men would then be scared shitless to do something like “date rape” or “grey area” rape, as MRAs would put it.

We’d have a lot less rape and hence a lot less of those pesky “false allegations” that arise from “buyer’s remorse” that you MRAs talk about.

Case closed.

Say goodnight, FF.

FactFinder
10 years ago

So you want women to have the power to decide the fate of every man they fuck. David, would you like to weigh in on this little discussion? Do you also think that having sex after a girl has a few drinks in a bar should end a man’s life, no questions asked? Please don’t just bow out like you usually do in these cases.

FactFinder
10 years ago

By the way, “Cuntry,” you have served your purpose and demonstrated how progressive feminists really are when it comes to crime and rehabilitation, at least when men are involved. Good girl.

Wetherby
Wetherby
10 years ago

I’ve long held that rape should be met with the death penalty and that this would actually SAVE mens’ lives from ruin because men would then be scared shitless to do something like “date rape” or “grey area” rape, as MRAs would put it.

Actually, what’s much more likely is that the number of rape convictions would plunge through the floor, which wouldn’t benefit anyone.

No jury is going to vote for the death penalty unless they’re 100% certain of guilt – and far too many rape cases come down to a he said/she said deadlock. Which is why there are distressingly few convictions even in cases where there’s very little serious doubt that rape did occur.

Cupcake
Cupcake
10 years ago

Of all my lesbian friends, only one has ever used a strap-on. The rest all stick to oral and manual sex. I thought that was one of those stereotypes about women, that we prefer loads of foreplay/oral/etc to actual penetration? Isn’t only a minority of women who can orgasm from penetration anyway? I mean, I know heaps of women love penetration, lesbians among them, but I dunno, I suspect that women’s need for a man and his penis is not quite as great as TAB would like to think.

@Katz, that’s not how you spell “all the ponies”!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

Once again – trolling or just stupid? I honestly can’t tell if she’s a slightly dim person with a few feminist ideas and not much capacity for thinking the results of them through, or a really clever troll.

Rutee Katreya
10 years ago

By the way, “Cuntry,” you have served your purpose and demonstrated how progressive feminists really are when it comes to crime and rehabilitation, at least when men are involved. Good girl.

You know, this is a really fucked up combo of things to say. You reduced someone’s purpose in life to smearing a group of activists, and then you congratulated her for accomplishing this goal for you. There’s something amazingly fucked up in that. But then, you’re aught but a bridge dweller, so what else is to be expected from your psychology. Away with you.

And yes, NC4OM, you have a harmful and wrong stance on crime and criminals; nobody is helped by pandering to the instinct for vengeance. The only useful goal prison can serve is to help criminals feel no need to commit crime ever again; this is not accomplished by trying to make prisons hurt prisoners (And even if it were that would still be ethically wrong.)

Whatever
Whatever
10 years ago

Go ahead and do that (penalizing rape with the death penalty) and what will happen is only the sociopathic and suicidal will bother to still have sex with human women while the vast majority of straight men with a conscience and self-preservation instinct (who isn’t what is derogatorily known as a simpering “mangina”) will resign themselves to resorting to porn and dolls. Oh wait, that’s already happening now, isn’t it?

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

And Whatever takes a painfully stupid and wrong comment and puts his own even stupider and wronger twist on it. Good one, Whatever. Two for two.

For the record, I’m against the death penalty, period.

Rutee Katreya
10 years ago

Oh wait, that’s already happening now, isn’t it?

No, not really at all, actually.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
10 years ago

Lol @ Whatever. If the MRM has taught us anything, many of the sociopathic already avoid adult human women and resort to porn and bitterness. :p

ithiliana
10 years ago

@Pro Death Penalty types: I’m against it, especially given the horrific rates of false convictions (especially in Texas, especially against black men, especially by white law enforcement and prosecutors), but there’s another point: which is, there’s no really convincing evidence that the death penalty deters murder, so why should it deter rape?

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-about-deterrence-and-death-penalty

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates

If you’re gonna argue with me, then bring some other studies to the table, please. Your ass is not a peer-reviewed or authoritative source.

ozymandias42
10 years ago

The death penalty is incredibly wrong. Rape should be punished with time in prison, like any other felony.

NC4OM, please get out of my social movement, you’re making me look bad. 🙂

Whatever: I’ve slept with men who are neither sociopathic or suicidal. Gosh, I never thought that would be the most unbelievable part of my sex life.

Whatever
Whatever
10 years ago

No, the true sociopaths are getting laid like the world is going to end tomorrow i.e. PUA’S.

Viscaria
Viscaria
10 years ago

NC4OM, I keep getting the impression that you’re looking for a sympathetic ear here. I cant speak for the whole commenting community but you have yet to say anything that I didn’t find objectionable in whole or in part, and from what I’m seeing a lot of people here are in the same boat. I’m of course not suggesting that you shouldn’t continue contributing to the conversation if that’s what you want to do, I’m just saying that if you say “yeah, death penalty, amirite folks?” you’re not getting the support you seem to want or think you’re getting.

And leading directly from that, does FactFinder think that NC4OM is a good representation of attitudes within feminism, or does he recognize that she isn’t and doesn’t care because he can use her words to smear the whole movement whether or not most feminists agree?

No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
10 years ago

“NC4OM, please get out of my social movement, you’re making me look bad.”

You’ve got a social movement? And I’m in it? WTF?

No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
10 years ago

“The death penalty is incredibly wrong.”

That’s your opinion.

No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
10 years ago

“Lol @ Whatever. If the MRM has taught us anything, many of the sociopathic already avoid adult human women and resort to porn and bitterness. :p”

Good one, Bagelsan 🙂

darksidecat
10 years ago

1. The death penalty is extremely expensive and inadminstrable in practice. Unless you are stripping people of due process, hence risking killing a lot of innocent people, it is more expensive to kill someone than keep them in jail for life. In addition, there is a significant amount of data regarding discrepancies in class and race in regards to who tends to get the death penalty and who does not.
2. High penalties make juries less likely to convict.
3. High penalty, low consistency is not great as a social deterant, consistent penalties are far better, even if they are lower. If you have a high penalty but low consistency of punishment, like in the US for illegal downloading of music files, or weed possession, you often end up with a situation where the activity is common and the majority of those who do it are never punished. The reason high penalties for murder work is that we expect at least a significant portion of murderers will face the punishment, not because of high penalties per se.
4. Not all people who abuse children are adults. Juvenile abusers are a fair portion of abusers, and these are often juveniles who have been seriously abused themselves and in many cases, these offenders do benefit from therapy and other rehabilitation efforts.

On another note, I find it amusing that whatever can’t even seem to imagine that some people who have sex with women are not cis hetero men.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

Oh well this should end all debate ever on the topic of whatever Dave was referring to about kittens:

Also FF, you are incorrect that all it takes is a few words from a woman and a man lands in prison for life so the chances it would land a guy on death row is even less likely.

ozymandias42
10 years ago

NC4OM: “My social movement” in the sense of “the social movement I’m a part of”, i.e., feminism.

Whatever: The two men I know who are getting laid the most ridiculously– multiple girlfriends, so many threesomes they occasionally skip threesomes to watch Firefly, all the kinky sex– are kind, intelligent, feminist gentlemen who enjoy roleplaying and cosplay. Try again.

Polliwog
Polliwog
10 years ago

Even beyond all the good reasons to oppose the death penalty for rape (and in general), here’s one more really good one: already, victims very frequently hesitate to report their rape to authorities because they know that that they will be accused of being sluts who just want to ruin some poor guy’s life, and because in our incredibly victim-blaming culture it’s very easy to internalize that crap and rationalize away what happened to you because the friend or family member or partner who raped you SEEMED like a nice guy, so maybe he just honestly misunderstood you when you were crying and saying “please stop.” Maybe he just put those roofies in your drink by accident! Maybe he really couldn’t restrain himself in the presence of your attractive outfit and it’s all your fault! How much worse are those things going to be when victims know that reporting could, in theory, not just lead to him being imprisoned but to his death? How much harder is it going to be for victims to convince themselves to come forward when they will know that the sort of people who will accuse them of being liars will now accuse them of being murderous liars, and that the nasty little voice inside so many of their heads that says “you probably deserved it somehow” now has “do you want him to DIE?” in its arsenal of attacks?

If you actually want to see more rapists get convicted, the death penalty is very much not the way to go about it. Fewer rapes will be reported. Fewer will lead to conviction, since, as others have pointed out, even the most sympathetic jury will hesitate (and rightly so) to send someone to their death unless they’re absolutely 100% certain of their guilt. Yeah, we’ll get to feel all warm and fuzzy about how we’re being all tough on rapists in theory, but in practice, more rapists will get away with rape. Which, to me, is a little more of a problem than not getting to feel vengeful enough.

Whatever
Whatever
10 years ago

“Try again.”

But, are either they and/or (more importantly) their — presumably female — partners, HOT? (And I mean’t hot as in sexy — “the hotness” — not horny — “hot for it”) For some reason, I get the feeling that something tells me they’re NOT (No, I’m not shallow, as someone once posted here, “I just have standards)…

Joanna
10 years ago

On the subject of the death sentence, anyone ever see The Life of David Gale?

Joanna
10 years ago

@Whatever: They still have sex drives. Otherwise they’d be asexual.

Whatever
Whatever
10 years ago

Ah, but are the girls they’re having sex with, actually HOT? That’s the question! You know, for some reason, why do I get the feeling that you’re going to answer, “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”…

Joanna
10 years ago

What does it matter? How does it prove anything?

Viscaria
Viscaria
10 years ago

Oh, he’s got you there, ozy! Your friends and their partners are probably all hideous! Because feminist men are never good-looking since… Ha ha, you’re ugly! And people who sleep with feminist men are all ugly because the hot ones can choose to sleep with creeps who don’t respect them instead!

No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
10 years ago

“Ah, but are the girls they’re having sex with, actually HOT? That’s the question! You know, for some reason, why do I get the feeling that you’re going to answer, “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”…

Why not? Afterall, MRAs try to convince us that we think old, grey, no-upper-lip-having George Clooney is “hot”. So obviously the “standards” are different.

Ew.

Viscaria
Viscaria
10 years ago

When I said “you’re ugly” I intended “you” to mean feminist men, not you as a specific person, ozy–I know that’s not how you identify and I didn’t mean to suggest that you do!

Feyline
Feyline
10 years ago

Whatever: Er…beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are porn blogs devoted to men with beards, while plenty of people (myself included) who don’t think lots of facial hair is sexy at all. There are people who lust after fat people and people who lust after skinny people and people who lust after people between those extremes and people who don’t have any preference to speak of.

Did you see the recent Captain America movie? If so, remember the scrawny version of the main guy early on in the movie? That physique is supposed to be less sexy, less appealing, and overall less than ideal. And to a lot of people, scrawny Captain America is indeed not as attractive as buff and square-jawed Captain America.

But to me? That little guy was sex.

My point is: “Don’t tell me you’re going to say [factual statement]!” as if the implied condescension somehow invalidates that factual statement is a sub-par way to prove a point.

Polliwog
Polliwog
10 years ago

Whatever, will it get you to shut up if I tell you that one of the girls regularly having sex with one of my most vocally feminist male friends is a model by profession, and therefore presumably conventionally “hot”?

(Also, I’m pretty amused by the idea that “beauty is in the eye of the beholder” is somehow an unreasonable response to a demand to know if people are “hot.” Are you seriously stupid enough to believe that there is one universal beauty standard across all eras and cultures? Because…y’know…there quite manifestly isn’t. At all.)

Feyline
Feyline
10 years ago

*while there are plenty of people…

Whatever
Whatever
10 years ago

From personal experience, handsome guys are usually jerks (though of course, not all jerks are handsome). As a general rule, they can’t help it, (objective or at least mainstream)beauty is power and power corrupts.

Whatever
Whatever
10 years ago

And oh btw, if there no universal standards of beauty, explain the billion-dollar global fashion industry…

BlackBloc
BlackBloc
10 years ago

>>explain the billion-dollar global fashion industry…

Because the best proof that there’s a universal standard of beauty that everyone naturally adheres to is a billion-dollar propaganda industry whose entire purpose is to convince people to look a certain way…

No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
10 years ago

“From personal experience, handsome guys are usually jerks (though of course, not all jerks are handsome). As a general rule, they can’t help it, (objective or at least mainstream)beauty is power and power corrupts.”

My experience has been 100% the opposite of that. I’m picky and have only dated handsome guys, and not a single one of them was a “jerk”. I have met many ugly-average looking jerks though. And they usually tend to be very jealous of the good-looking guys.

No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
10 years ago

“There are porn blogs devoted to men with beards”

I wouldn’t doubt there are porn blogs devoted to women with beards, either.

The billion dollar fashion industry???

You mean the one that MRAs say is run by effeminate gay men who starve the models so they resemble skinny teenage boys? Is that the “universal standard of beauty” you’re talking about here?

Dracula
Dracula
10 years ago

Yeah, death penalty for rape = counterproductive and barbaric.

No, the true sociopaths are getting laid like the world is going to end tomorrow i.e. PUA’S.

So, you’re another one of those idiots who actually believes PUAs when they bullshit you about how laid they’re getting, eh Whatever? Unsurprising, but still funny.

No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
No Cuntry 4 Old Men!
10 years ago

“So, you’re another one of those idiots who actually believes PUAs when they bullshit you about how laid they’re getting”

I watched a number of “in field” PUA videos and in all of them the pick-ups were staged. One was in a bar/club and the ONLY person in that bar was the girl whom the guy was picking up. How likely is it that a nightclub has only 3 patrons – a girl, a guy and a camera person?

Another was a girl walking though an empty park – alone. And we’re supposed to believe she wasn’t the camera person’s cousin whom they paid off to pretend to be a strange girl walking through a huge part – alone.

There are countless “in field” videos like this out there.

What to speak of the fact that one of the biggest PUA gurus – Owen Cook (stage name Tyler Durden) got bamboozled by a below 5 looking illegal Mexican immigrant who OOPS! *forgot* to take her bc pills.

Anchor baby!

I thought “game” was supposed to “protect” men from getting bamboozled by women? Hmmmm???

Simps, down to the last one of ’em.

ozymandias42
10 years ago

NC4OM: Anchor baby? Wow, you aren’t racist at aaaaaall.

Whatever: Depends. What do you think of a twenty-year-old redhead with the body of Bettie Page and an extensive corset collection? How about a former professional modern dancer? Or perhaps a cute thirtysomething woman who resembles every Hot For Teacher fantasy you ever had?

Cupcake
Cupcake
10 years ago

The “billion dollar fashion industry” = universal standards of beauty?

Look, I know that when a lot of people think “fashion industry”, they think Victoria’s Secret models and bitchy body-shaming.

But, actually? The fashion industry does have a little something to do with THE CLOTHES.

Y’know, those things which every single human being in the Western world is required to wear in public?

Besides, within the fashion industry I’m not sure I’d say there’s a universal standard of beauty, or even that the fashion industry’s beauty standards always match up with conventional beauty standards.

I mean, sure, there’s a preferred body type (with a few notable exceptions that prove the rule, like Crystal Renn) but designers love models with highly unusual faces; they love makeup that’s bizarre, makes them look alien and almost ugly, etc; they love clothes that are weird, distort the human body, etc.

Just look at Tavi Gevinson’s blog,and tell me the fashion industry is all about one single universal standard of beauty. Or worse, try to tell me that that “universal standard” is the Playboy-esque blonde underwear model with big blue eyes and big boobs. It’s just not true, as anyone with any interest in fashion can tell you.

The fashion industry has major flaws from a feminist/social justice point of view. But you’re also mischaracterizing it a bit. The Victoria’s Secret catalogue is not the sum total of the fashion industry.

Rutee Katreya
10 years ago

Besides, within the fashion industry I’m not sure I’d say there’s a universal standard of beauty, or even that the fashion industry’s beauty standards always match up with conventional beauty standards.

Yeah this is making me laugh too; If there was a universal standard of beauty, there’d only be one school of fashion. Yet there’s Parisian Haute Couture, Milanese fashion, Harajuku Kei, so many derivatives of Goth, various punk fashions (Whether or not they’re called that), hipster fashion…

Not a fashionista, just research done for a game I hope to run when I’m capable of such things XD

Anchor baby!

Gosh, I’m so unsurprised that you’re racist towards everyone else too.