The smirky MRA douchebag thingsarebad didn’t win a lot of friends when he used to comment here. Ironically, it seems that he’s not doing that much better over on Reddit’s Men’s Rights subreddit, where his comments tend to garner about as many downvotes as upvotes. Yes, it is possible to be too much of a douche for even the highly douche-tolerant Men’s Rights subreddit.
Anyway, all that is a sort of rambling prelude to my main point here, which is: thingsarebad has figured out that whole “lesbian” thing, and wants to share his results with the world. Also, feminism. His science is tight.
Confused a bit by that explanation? Would you like a much, much longer explanation, replete with fake statistics he’s “mentated” out of his ass? Well, prepare yourself a stiff drink and take a look at this megacomment of his from earlier in that same thread.
We’ll just wait here while you digest all that.
Done? Share your thoughts below, or check out the ShitRedditSays discussion of it all.
Or just watch this video of a rather portly cat climbing into a vase.
Hey, I promised a kitty video to someone in the comments here a couple of days ago. I may be a little slow sometimes, but I am a man of my word.
While I’m at it, here’s a bonus vid of a kitty and a Kleenex box.
Oh well this should end all debate ever on the topic of whatever Dave was referring to about kittens:
Also FF, you are incorrect that all it takes is a few words from a woman and a man lands in prison for life so the chances it would land a guy on death row is even less likely.
NC4OM: “My social movement” in the sense of “the social movement I’m a part of”, i.e., feminism.
Whatever: The two men I know who are getting laid the most ridiculously– multiple girlfriends, so many threesomes they occasionally skip threesomes to watch Firefly, all the kinky sex– are kind, intelligent, feminist gentlemen who enjoy roleplaying and cosplay. Try again.
Even beyond all the good reasons to oppose the death penalty for rape (and in general), here’s one more really good one: already, victims very frequently hesitate to report their rape to authorities because they know that that they will be accused of being sluts who just want to ruin some poor guy’s life, and because in our incredibly victim-blaming culture it’s very easy to internalize that crap and rationalize away what happened to you because the friend or family member or partner who raped you SEEMED like a nice guy, so maybe he just honestly misunderstood you when you were crying and saying “please stop.” Maybe he just put those roofies in your drink by accident! Maybe he really couldn’t restrain himself in the presence of your attractive outfit and it’s all your fault! How much worse are those things going to be when victims know that reporting could, in theory, not just lead to him being imprisoned but to his death? How much harder is it going to be for victims to convince themselves to come forward when they will know that the sort of people who will accuse them of being liars will now accuse them of being murderous liars, and that the nasty little voice inside so many of their heads that says “you probably deserved it somehow” now has “do you want him to DIE?” in its arsenal of attacks?
If you actually want to see more rapists get convicted, the death penalty is very much not the way to go about it. Fewer rapes will be reported. Fewer will lead to conviction, since, as others have pointed out, even the most sympathetic jury will hesitate (and rightly so) to send someone to their death unless they’re absolutely 100% certain of their guilt. Yeah, we’ll get to feel all warm and fuzzy about how we’re being all tough on rapists in theory, but in practice, more rapists will get away with rape. Which, to me, is a little more of a problem than not getting to feel vengeful enough.
“Try again.”
But, are either they and/or (more importantly) their — presumably female — partners, HOT? (And I mean’t hot as in sexy — “the hotness” — not horny — “hot for it”) For some reason, I get the feeling that something tells me they’re NOT (No, I’m not shallow, as someone once posted here, “I just have standards)…
On the subject of the death sentence, anyone ever see The Life of David Gale?
@Whatever: They still have sex drives. Otherwise they’d be asexual.
Ah, but are the girls they’re having sex with, actually HOT? That’s the question! You know, for some reason, why do I get the feeling that you’re going to answer, “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”…
What does it matter? How does it prove anything?
Oh, he’s got you there, ozy! Your friends and their partners are probably all hideous! Because feminist men are never good-looking since… Ha ha, you’re ugly! And people who sleep with feminist men are all ugly because the hot ones can choose to sleep with creeps who don’t respect them instead!
“Ah, but are the girls they’re having sex with, actually HOT? That’s the question! You know, for some reason, why do I get the feeling that you’re going to answer, “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”…
Why not? Afterall, MRAs try to convince us that we think old, grey, no-upper-lip-having George Clooney is “hot”. So obviously the “standards” are different.
Ew.
When I said “you’re ugly” I intended “you” to mean feminist men, not you as a specific person, ozy–I know that’s not how you identify and I didn’t mean to suggest that you do!
Whatever: Er…beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are porn blogs devoted to men with beards, while plenty of people (myself included) who don’t think lots of facial hair is sexy at all. There are people who lust after fat people and people who lust after skinny people and people who lust after people between those extremes and people who don’t have any preference to speak of.
Did you see the recent Captain America movie? If so, remember the scrawny version of the main guy early on in the movie? That physique is supposed to be less sexy, less appealing, and overall less than ideal. And to a lot of people, scrawny Captain America is indeed not as attractive as buff and square-jawed Captain America.
But to me? That little guy was sex.
My point is: “Don’t tell me you’re going to say [factual statement]!” as if the implied condescension somehow invalidates that factual statement is a sub-par way to prove a point.
Whatever, will it get you to shut up if I tell you that one of the girls regularly having sex with one of my most vocally feminist male friends is a model by profession, and therefore presumably conventionally “hot”?
(Also, I’m pretty amused by the idea that “beauty is in the eye of the beholder” is somehow an unreasonable response to a demand to know if people are “hot.” Are you seriously stupid enough to believe that there is one universal beauty standard across all eras and cultures? Because…y’know…there quite manifestly isn’t. At all.)
*while there are plenty of people…
From personal experience, handsome guys are usually jerks (though of course, not all jerks are handsome). As a general rule, they can’t help it, (objective or at least mainstream)beauty is power and power corrupts.
And oh btw, if there no universal standards of beauty, explain the billion-dollar global fashion industry…
>>explain the billion-dollar global fashion industry…
Because the best proof that there’s a universal standard of beauty that everyone naturally adheres to is a billion-dollar propaganda industry whose entire purpose is to convince people to look a certain way…
“From personal experience, handsome guys are usually jerks (though of course, not all jerks are handsome). As a general rule, they can’t help it, (objective or at least mainstream)beauty is power and power corrupts.”
My experience has been 100% the opposite of that. I’m picky and have only dated handsome guys, and not a single one of them was a “jerk”. I have met many ugly-average looking jerks though. And they usually tend to be very jealous of the good-looking guys.
“There are porn blogs devoted to men with beards”
I wouldn’t doubt there are porn blogs devoted to women with beards, either.
The billion dollar fashion industry???
You mean the one that MRAs say is run by effeminate gay men who starve the models so they resemble skinny teenage boys? Is that the “universal standard of beauty” you’re talking about here?
Yeah, death penalty for rape = counterproductive and barbaric.
No, the true sociopaths are getting laid like the world is going to end tomorrow i.e. PUA’S.
So, you’re another one of those idiots who actually believes PUAs when they bullshit you about how laid they’re getting, eh Whatever? Unsurprising, but still funny.
“So, you’re another one of those idiots who actually believes PUAs when they bullshit you about how laid they’re getting”
I watched a number of “in field” PUA videos and in all of them the pick-ups were staged. One was in a bar/club and the ONLY person in that bar was the girl whom the guy was picking up. How likely is it that a nightclub has only 3 patrons – a girl, a guy and a camera person?
Another was a girl walking though an empty park – alone. And we’re supposed to believe she wasn’t the camera person’s cousin whom they paid off to pretend to be a strange girl walking through a huge part – alone.
There are countless “in field” videos like this out there.
What to speak of the fact that one of the biggest PUA gurus – Owen Cook (stage name Tyler Durden) got bamboozled by a below 5 looking illegal Mexican immigrant who OOPS! *forgot* to take her bc pills.
Anchor baby!
I thought “game” was supposed to “protect” men from getting bamboozled by women? Hmmmm???
Simps, down to the last one of ’em.
NC4OM: Anchor baby? Wow, you aren’t racist at aaaaaall.
Whatever: Depends. What do you think of a twenty-year-old redhead with the body of Bettie Page and an extensive corset collection? How about a former professional modern dancer? Or perhaps a cute thirtysomething woman who resembles every Hot For Teacher fantasy you ever had?
The “billion dollar fashion industry” = universal standards of beauty?
Look, I know that when a lot of people think “fashion industry”, they think Victoria’s Secret models and bitchy body-shaming.
But, actually? The fashion industry does have a little something to do with THE CLOTHES.
Y’know, those things which every single human being in the Western world is required to wear in public?
Besides, within the fashion industry I’m not sure I’d say there’s a universal standard of beauty, or even that the fashion industry’s beauty standards always match up with conventional beauty standards.
I mean, sure, there’s a preferred body type (with a few notable exceptions that prove the rule, like Crystal Renn) but designers love models with highly unusual faces; they love makeup that’s bizarre, makes them look alien and almost ugly, etc; they love clothes that are weird, distort the human body, etc.
Just look at Tavi Gevinson’s blog,and tell me the fashion industry is all about one single universal standard of beauty. Or worse, try to tell me that that “universal standard” is the Playboy-esque blonde underwear model with big blue eyes and big boobs. It’s just not true, as anyone with any interest in fashion can tell you.
The fashion industry has major flaws from a feminist/social justice point of view. But you’re also mischaracterizing it a bit. The Victoria’s Secret catalogue is not the sum total of the fashion industry.
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth — that video is like the myth of Sisyphus, but with kittens instead of rocks.
Of course, owning a cat at all pretty much makes your life into the myth of Sisyphus, but with cats.
Yeah this is making me laugh too; If there was a universal standard of beauty, there’d only be one school of fashion. Yet there’s Parisian Haute Couture, Milanese fashion, Harajuku Kei, so many derivatives of Goth, various punk fashions (Whether or not they’re called that), hipster fashion…
Not a fashionista, just research done for a game I hope to run when I’m capable of such things XD
Gosh, I’m so unsurprised that you’re racist towards everyone else too.