So yesterday I quoted some random Spearheader who described women (well, white women in particular) as “complete parasitical whores roaming the landscape spreading VD like Johnny Appleseed and fucking men over.”
One reader wondered if Mr. Appleseed really went about spreading VD. So I did a little research, and it turns out that it is exceedingly unlikely that Mr. Appleseed – who actually was a real person — spread anything other than the magic of apples. And his Swedenborgian beliefs.
Why? Because Mr. Appleseed – real name John Chapman – was what these days we might call a Man Going His Own Way. Seems he didn’t have much truck with the ladies, according to one contemporary account quoted in his Wikipedia entry:
On one occasion Miss PRICE’s mother asked Johnny if he would not be a happier man, if he were settled in a home of his own, and had a family to love him. He opened his eyes very wide–they were remarkably keen, penetrating grey eyes, almost black–and replied that all women were not what they professed to be; that some of them were deceivers; and a man might not marry the amiable woman that he thought he was getting, after all.
So what led poor Mr. Appleseed to these dire thoughts about women? Apparently the underage girl he hoped to some day get with was more into dudes who weren’t him:
Now we had always heard that Johnny had loved once upon a time, and that his lady love had proven false to him. Then he said one time he saw a poor, friendless little girl, who had no one to care for her, and sent her to school, and meant to bring her up to suit himself, and when she was old enough he intended to marry her. He clothed her and watched over her; but when she was fifteen years old, he called to see her once unexpectedly, and found her sitting beside a young man, with her hand in his, listening to his silly twaddle.
That ungrateful little strumpet!
I peeped over at Johnny while he was telling this, and, young as I was, I saw his eyes grow dark as violets, and the pupils enlarge, and his voice rise up in denunciation, while his nostrils dilated and his thin lips worked with emotion. How angry he grew! He thought the girl was basely ungrateful. After that time she was no protegé of his.
But Appleseed, despite giving up on women in the real world, held out hope for the afterlife – explaining to others that he expected to have two spirit wives all his own after he died. Which I guess is the 19th century equivalent of the MGTOWers today who fantasize about the sexy robot ladies who will eventually, it is hoped, make actual human females – with their troubling “thoughts” and “needs” and “desires” of their own – obsolete.
Mr. Appleseed’s quest to remain alone was probably also helped by the fact that – if the illustration I found on Wikipedia is any indication – he looked a bit like Dale Gribble from King of the Hill. Only much, much sloppier, with long hair. Oh, and instead of wearing a baseball cap, he wore “a tin utensil which answered both as a cap and a mush pot.”
So, yeah, a creepy weirdo who hates women — definitely an MGTOWer all the way.
Oh, except that he actually did something with his life — you know, helping spread apple trees to a big portion of the midwest — instead of spending all his time going on about how all women are whores.
I’m sure NWO subscribes to the one drop theory. Or brown hair. His world is a scary place.
@Mr. Kobold
“All your facts either come from your ass or, the asses of others and their assorted racist/anti-semitic/misogynistic nerd rage websites as you trawl them.”
You choose to believe leftist propaganda and turn a blind eye to the truth. I hold people accountable for their actions reguardless of race or gender. Your sexist/racist hate ideology won’t permit you to hold any of the preferred gender/race(s) accountable.
Note how anti-semetic holds a special place of honor. Have you ever held a semetic accountable for saying/implying something against a white man just because their white? Such as the constant filth that falls from say the mouth of amused, with her white man this and white man that? Her race, (semetic) holds a privileged position within your ideology of hate. Your knee-jerk reaction is protection of all semetic people reguardless of their actions.
Your mouth professes equality, but your actions don’t. I will expect you to rip anyone a new asshole who ever utter the word of white, (race) or men, (gender) in a deragatory fashion, just because they happen to be men or white.
All feminists are pro-semetic, pro-misandric, pro-racist. It’s your ideology. If your pro-any race/gender that makes you anti everything that isn’t part of your ideology. And that’s hatred. You’ll get hatred in return.
Cassandra: By those standards, despite being mostly Dutch and English, with a bit of Irish and Norwegian mixed in, I don’t count as a white person (I have kind of reddish-brown hair). Odd, that, because I kind of fluoresce in direct sunlight.
Well, he’s got me there, I am pro-Semitic.
NWO: “blahblahblah watch me type all night, keep in mind I am a homophobic liar that thinks YAHOO! comments are mainstream opinion”
I know I said I’m not a regular poster here, but NWO is making it hard, he’s just too fucking funny. He put a Star Wars book on a ‘BEST BOOKS’ list?
TRULY EPIC INTERNET LAUGHS
@Holly Pervocracy
“Well, he’s got me there, I am pro-Semitic.”
Which makes you a racist.
Oh I’m sure Slavey was anti-racist until those evil misandric feminists came on the scene.
Well, actually NWO, being pro-something does not make you anti-everything else. I know it’s a complicated concept, but it’s true.
“You choose to believe leftist propaganda and turn a blind eye to the truth.”
Slavey considering that not only is there the study of scholars who have devote time and study to the matter, but the first hand accounts with Columbus’ own personal writings, and records involving his dispute the Royal Court of Spain, over his treatment and enslavement of the natives, I would just love to hear this “truth” of yours that contradicts all of it.
The rest of your bullshit I won’t even get too unless you can prove (which you can’t) that you aren’t speaking out of your asshole (which you are).
Glad to see though that you dropped your old “I have a Jewish friend, I can’t be anti-semitic,” schtick of yours, and are instead opting for the “holocaust denier talking right before revealing they are a holocaust denier” manner of speaking.
@Rutee Katreya
“Oh I’m sure Slavey was anti-racist until those evil misandric feminists came on the scene.”
I’m the only one here who isn’t racist.
“I know I said I’m not a regular poster here, but NWO is making it hard, he’s just too fucking funny. He put a Star Wars book on a ‘BEST BOOKS’ list?”
Oh twas a good day, MRAL might have put together an absolute best of world literature list too.
Can we get Ami or Sharon or some other cyberpunk internet chronicler to pull that up?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Wait, you’re serious?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
NWO: Holy crap, that’s the best line I’ve heard all day! you’re the only who’s not rascist, do you pay someone to come up with these jokes? ‘Cause they deserve a – wait a second, that’s supposed to be serious? Shit, that’s even funnier! Lulz all around!
Believe what you wish, Owly. It’s the only thing you know how to do.
Wasn’t it like six months ago that NWO declared that I’m racist because I’m not anti-Semitic?
Oh, it’s like old times! I feel the warm glow of nostalgia…
hellkell and I are evidently twins, separated at birth.
“I’m the only one here who isn’t racist.”
Oh. My God.
I love this place.
@Mr. Kobold
“Glad to see though that you dropped your old “I have a Jewish friend, I can’t be anti-semitic,” schtick of yours, and are instead opting for the “holocaust denier talking right before revealing they are a holocaust denier” manner of speaking.”
Why is the holocaust the sacred golden calf to you? If you want the truth to be investigated about evil Columbus, wouldn’t you want everything investigated? Why is that one event in all of history, just that one event out of everything that has ever happened in recorded history, sacred?
“I’m the only one here who isn’t racist.”
God. Yes. A quotable to go with MRAL’s “I’m a nice person.”
Though I guess you can’t be racist if you’re a guy like Slavey who considers the only legitimate race to be white people, (preferably American, preferably male, preferably Slavey). Everyone else are just inscrutable foreigners, like those brown Portuguese folk, them Russians who use the alphabet all funny, or the Jews and their ultra proselytizing ways.
Why is the holocaust the sacred golden calf to you? If you want the truth to be investigated about evil Columbus, wouldn’t you want everything investigated? Why is that one event in all of history, just that one event out of everything that has ever happened in recorded history, sacred?
Because my grandmother had numbers on her arm.
There’s a story in the Anne of Green Gables universe that has the fatherless child of a vapid and ineffective mother educated by a friend of her father’s, who takes her in hand due to some melodramatic sense of duty, and also boredom. Then when she gets older he sends her to boarding school for a year and when she returns she’s a complete knockout. He does his best to repress the fact that he completely wants to have sex with her, but it turns out OK because she came back totally in love with her noble, romantic father figure. They get married and live happily ever after.
The story lacks the Imma-gonna-raise-me-a-wife-on-purpose component and, because this is L M Montgomery, makes a point to make sure all the key characters are just as goshdarn likeable as possible, and it still ends up being creepy.
NWO: Because what happened has been well-documented. Because there is film of bodies being dumped into mass graves. There are American GIs who liberated the camps (my grandfather was one of them), and people who survived them, and people who worked in them and people who avoided them, all of whom have told their stories. Now, unless you think the film and records were faked and somehow thousands and thousands of geographically and culturally disparate people were bribed (or cajoled or threatened or whatever) into telling these stories, it all adds up to some pretty convincing evidence. Actual evidence that actually exists as opposed to the kind that you pull out of your ass.
@Holly Pervocracy
“Because my grandmother had numbers on her arm.”
And my great-grandfather and great-grandmother were slaughtered by Bolshevics.
I do find it ironic, sort of, that the people who most deny the Holocaust are the people who seem like they should be cheering for it. If you want to see Jews get their comeuppance, why are you cutting off what could be a huge source of happiness?
(You motherfucker.)
I guess happiness isn’t really the goal here.
And my great-grandfather and great-grandmother were slaughtered by Bolshevics.
And my grandmother wasn’t a Bolshevic (or a Bolshevik) so what the fuck is your point.