So some MRAs are rallying around Herman Cain – not in spite of the sexual harassment allegations against him, but because of them.
On The Spearhead, W. R. Price notes that Cain has gotten a flood of new donations since the scandal broke. His conclusion:
The support for the conservative candidate suggests that the decades-old trend of male helplessness in the face of female accusations may be coming to an end.
Other Spearheaders are a bit more blunt:
It is refreshing to see a man (politician or otherwise) in the spotlight stand up and defend himself against a P.C. hatchet-job such as “sexual harrassment” when so many before him did the whiney-baby kiss-up “I was wrong” pandering while bowing before the golden hoochie.
Meanwhile, white and nerdy on Omega Virgin Revolt (yes, that’s a real blog) has actually put his money where his mouth is, sending along a donation to Cain.
I usually don’t bother with voting. Everyone running for most offices is either a liberal feminist or a conservative feminist. To me that is no difference. However, if Herman Cain is still in the running by the time my state’s primary happens (and if he is the Republican nominee) I will vote for him.
Herman Cain is now dealing with at least three women who are claiming that he sexually harassed them. Public figures who were accused of sexual harassment in the past didn’t take on their accusers directly, but Herman Cain did. He pointed out how what is happening to him is a false accusation. As a result of this Cain has received hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations in the last few days. One of those donations was my donation.
This may not seem like much, but this small act as made Cain more anti-feminist than all of the other candidates for president.
Notice that in white and nerdy’s version of the controversy, Cain has “pointed out” that he’s being falsely accused. Actually, what Cain has done is to deny that he harassed anyone. At this point, we don’t actually know enough to judge definitively whether the allegations are true — though the fact that the National Restaurant Association paid out tens of thousands of dollars to settle the cases makes me a bit skeptical of Cain’s denials. But apparently, in W&N’s brain, there’s not even a chance he’s guilty of anything other than standing up to the dirty feminazis.
One of the commenters on Omega Virgin Revolt is even more enthusiastic about Cain than the blogger himself. Jack writes:
If Cain becomes president, we might actually see an end to the incessant pandering to women by the mindless political class. It’s about time that a politician stood up and declared that women have responsibilities in life and are not entitled to a free ride. Cain might actually do that.
Over on Reddit, meanwhile, OffensiveBrute doesn’t defend Cain so much as he defends not giving a shit about sexual harassment:
I say even if Cain is guilty, who the hell cares? Sexual harassment is illegal, but not immoral. well not the kind that Cain is accused of anyway.
Skooma714 offers a similar take:
He didn’t even touch them. They probably hear shit like that on the DC Metro everyday.
They probably are over it. They want to get some paper and attention.
And, yes, both of these comments garnered some upvotes.
Of course, not every MRA out there is rallying around Cain. On Reddit, there are plenty of MRAs who are suspending judgment on the allegations, or who dislike Cain because he’s, you know, a right wing asshole. Over on The Spearhead, the only ones who seem to have an issue with Cain are those who, well, let’s just say that they probably also think burning crosses make great lawn decorations:
Black men are notorious for their sexual escapades, their testosterone being greater than that of White Men – as is their level of rape accusation. He may be innocent but he may just as well be guilty of a real indescretion.
I am happy to report that this comment got a lot of downvotes there; not every Spearheader is a raving Stormfronter. Of course, it says something about the general political and social backwardness of the site that those Spearheaders who are defending Cain from the crudest Klan-tastic racist attacks are doing so basically because they think he’s a credit to his race:
If the Blacks in America were like Herman Cain, this country would be measurably better for it and most of us would be hating on someone else.
But don’t worry: On The Spearhead they can still all agree on one central point – that women are evil, lying whores. As Keyster put it, in one of the most-highly upvoted comments in the thread:
What this indicates is that people are fed up with political correctness and the feminist/sexual grievance industry. …
In the new Femocracy you can’t date them, you can’t marry them and you can’t even work among them, without risking untold trouble for life. Is it any wonder men are distancing themselves from women, if not abandoning them altogether? How’s a man to know whether she has a “false accusation bomb” strapped to her waist or not? If you’re a man among women stay alert, you’re outside the Green Zone.
Will MRAs end up rallying around Cain in the way they rallied around Julian Assange and Dominique Strauss-Kahn? Or will something – his political views, his race? – prevent them from jumping on the Cain train? I guess we’ll just have to see.
I love that comments on Yahoo are the Voice of the People now. Well, I suppose it’s a step up from Youtube.
Brandon, you’ve said repeatedly that you couldn’t care less about anyone besides yourself and select friends/family. Yet when these women you encountered did the same thing, it was wrong?
Oh wait, right. It’s not just that you act in your best interests, it’s that EVERYONE is required to.
@Lauralot: I am not really making a judgement call on that behavior. But it would be silly to say that I didn’t notice it.
“It’s just an act most people find disgusting.”
Which act would that be? Because the vast majority of sexual acts that gay people do, straight people also do.
“I am not really making a judgement call on that behavior.”
“And my own observations show men are far more generous and helpful than women were.”
Yeah, no judgement there.
Certainly seems like a judgment call. And, you know, an example of confirmation bias but, whatever.It’s terribly interesting, as noted, that you notice qualities like helpfulness and generosity and choose not to display them. Kindness and generosity, just like meanness and selfishness are completely gender neutral.
@Hippo: So I saw that men gave more than women. And your point? Did I make any negative statement about the women? Nope.
Yeah, nothing negative about saying women weren’t helpful or generous to you.
We really do need to figure out how to attract a better class of troll here.
@Laura: It’s only negative if I thought they should help me. I didn’t expect them to help me and I didn’t get in a tizzy if they said no.
Throughout my life, it’s been my experience that males treated me worse than females. Without going into details, I was treated badly by guys at school, and some in my family. Women were always nicer to me and offered more support and kindness.
I noticed it too. So if you’re trying to assert Brandon, that your life experience with non generous or meaner women represents all women, then I could just as easily say the same thing about men, that they are non generous and meaner thus representing all men.
That would be wrong to say obviously. So I wonder why you’re even bringing that up? or are you purposely trying to start a men vs women debate? Trollers gonna troll I suppose.
Also, regarding the ladies who didn’t want to sell their cigarettes to a homeless stranger they know nothing about: If a woman gets close enough to a homeless person to give them a cigarette and gets assaulted, I’m sure, given Brandon’s comments about drunk women being raped and the like, that it would be the woman’s fault for not exercising more caution. Yet if she doesn’t give a cigarette because she’s suspicious, then she’s probably stereotyping as well as being unhelpful and stingy.
Why on earth should generosity and and helpfulness even matter to you, Brandon? Don’t we have dozens of your screeds to refer to in which you explain, ad nauseum, that you aren’t like the rest of us, have your own morality, wouldn’t go out of your way to help a stranger, and see the value in selfishness?
Weren’t you just saying how selfish you think it is for society to ask individuals to support it?
Brandon doesn’t care if women help him or not. He doesn’t care so much that he posted it here in response to NWO going on about how superior men were in helping others.
@ Lacroix
this is basically the appealing to ignorance fallacy right?
@Lauralot: It’s cute when you are wrong.
Holly:
In a way it’s testimony to the success of feminism, that people like Slavey and a couple of others have no idea of the work that went/goes into it. If people think God created feminism on the eighth day, it’s because the strides it’s made have obscured the struggles.
Brandon:
Amazingly, “feminists do X, and that’s bad, therefore we should get to do X also” makes less sense, not more, when X isn’t really something feminists do.
Brandon: It’s cute when you’re patronizing and clueless at the same time. So, like, always.
That’s a shame, Brandon, it’s not cute when you are.
And it’s double not cute when you play the “I’m not saying it’s bad to be a bitch, I’m just saying women are bitches, also it’s bad to be a bitch, also I didn’t say that” game.
Unfortunately, our trolls are all suffering from early-onset dementia, and have absolutely no short term memory. I guess it isn’t their fault, because they’ve had hard lives. They could start a charity for themselves, but that would require gettin’ away from the postin’ machine for more than 5 minutes.
For the record, the ‘mud person’ and FSM comments were making fun of Redditors. They can be an obnoxious bunch of dudebros, but I forgot there’s a *vastly inferior* comment hole on the interwebs:
YAHOO!!!
I always wondered what kind of pond life posted there, now I know. I was expecting MOAR confederate flags.
I think it’s a combination of: 1) plain old laziness and 2) thinking that the work involved is beneath them. I’ve tried to figure out other possible explanations since I’ve personally known and worked with men who began charities and nonprofit organizations. But I’ve got nothing. Ranting on the internet is easy and free. The work involved in creating a successful program that accomplishes goals and helps people is difficult and can cost money.
@ozymandias42
“I find eating meat disgusting. Am I allowed to ban eating meat? I have way better ethical arguments for vegetarianism than anyone has for being against gay people, and the ex-carnivore programs have a far higher success rate.”
Not these tired compasisons again. If it works for you it’ll work for me. Teasing a man with sex is the same a taunting a starving man with food. If your’s works and get the big thumbs up from the gang so will mine.
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“Because, you know, stuff like RAINN and the breast cancer people also help men; I don’t think there’s a whole lot of charities that only help one gender ”
RAINN? Why not feministe? It’s about the same. You don’t think there’s a whole lot of charities that only help one gender? Google it sweetheart. Try any Guv site, Corporate site, UN site. Just google it. If you’re going to act all intelligent, don’t act dumb.
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“I agree that men being imprisoned for not paying child support sucks (although, you know, kid still needs food). I just don’t think it’s, yanno, slavery.”
It cost’s 65k for that 6 months of imprisonment in my scenario for a $3,900 debt. About 17x the cost of the mans debt. It has nothing to do with the debt, it’s about punishing men. Kidnapping, extortion, prison.
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“I’m sorry you were homeless, NWO, even people who want to have rapeslaves and think Russian and Spanish have the same alphabet don’t deserve that. It’s a hard life and I’m glad you have a home now.”
Words and actions dear, they’re two seperate things. C’mon, you’re a college girl, majoring in Psych or something. Do a little experiment for me, just for shits and giggles. Make up two charities, one for homeless men only and one for homeless women only. I’ll wager you $1000.00, to a charity of your choice the womens only charity you start will recieve massive support, but the mens only charity will recieve at most 10x less and might even be banned.
I give you my word I will pay. Keep in mind $1000.00 is a world of cash to a man of my means. In order for this wager to be legit, you can’t influence in any way. Just two exact flyers, one for men and one for women. I give Dave permission to give you my email address. I will even send him a check for that money. Remember, just flyers, no other verbal promotion or anything. Are ya game? I’m game enough to take your word on the results. Ain’t that a leap of faith?
@Laura: See…there you go again.
@Holly: Ya..because making an observation somehow equals “women are bitches”. Nice strawman you are building.
I gotta say, I haven’t commented here because it’s like.
“MRAs rally around an icon of the party of misogynists.”
is on the same level as
“Sky is blue.”
Literally the only surprise here is that they can manage to be only as “Credit to his race” racist
So NWO can’t even accept a genuine piece of compassion regarding his homeless situation without twisting it into something about how women are evil.
What a sad, empty life you must live.