So some MRAs are rallying around Herman Cain – not in spite of the sexual harassment allegations against him, but because of them.
On The Spearhead, W. R. Price notes that Cain has gotten a flood of new donations since the scandal broke. His conclusion:
The support for the conservative candidate suggests that the decades-old trend of male helplessness in the face of female accusations may be coming to an end.
Other Spearheaders are a bit more blunt:
It is refreshing to see a man (politician or otherwise) in the spotlight stand up and defend himself against a P.C. hatchet-job such as “sexual harrassment” when so many before him did the whiney-baby kiss-up “I was wrong” pandering while bowing before the golden hoochie.
Meanwhile, white and nerdy on Omega Virgin Revolt (yes, that’s a real blog) has actually put his money where his mouth is, sending along a donation to Cain.
I usually don’t bother with voting. Everyone running for most offices is either a liberal feminist or a conservative feminist. To me that is no difference. However, if Herman Cain is still in the running by the time my state’s primary happens (and if he is the Republican nominee) I will vote for him.
Herman Cain is now dealing with at least three women who are claiming that he sexually harassed them. Public figures who were accused of sexual harassment in the past didn’t take on their accusers directly, but Herman Cain did. He pointed out how what is happening to him is a false accusation. As a result of this Cain has received hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations in the last few days. One of those donations was my donation.
This may not seem like much, but this small act as made Cain more anti-feminist than all of the other candidates for president.
Notice that in white and nerdy’s version of the controversy, Cain has “pointed out” that he’s being falsely accused. Actually, what Cain has done is to deny that he harassed anyone. At this point, we don’t actually know enough to judge definitively whether the allegations are true — though the fact that the National Restaurant Association paid out tens of thousands of dollars to settle the cases makes me a bit skeptical of Cain’s denials. But apparently, in W&N’s brain, there’s not even a chance he’s guilty of anything other than standing up to the dirty feminazis.
One of the commenters on Omega Virgin Revolt is even more enthusiastic about Cain than the blogger himself. Jack writes:
If Cain becomes president, we might actually see an end to the incessant pandering to women by the mindless political class. It’s about time that a politician stood up and declared that women have responsibilities in life and are not entitled to a free ride. Cain might actually do that.
Over on Reddit, meanwhile, OffensiveBrute doesn’t defend Cain so much as he defends not giving a shit about sexual harassment:
I say even if Cain is guilty, who the hell cares? Sexual harassment is illegal, but not immoral. well not the kind that Cain is accused of anyway.
Skooma714 offers a similar take:
He didn’t even touch them. They probably hear shit like that on the DC Metro everyday.
They probably are over it. They want to get some paper and attention.
And, yes, both of these comments garnered some upvotes.
Of course, not every MRA out there is rallying around Cain. On Reddit, there are plenty of MRAs who are suspending judgment on the allegations, or who dislike Cain because he’s, you know, a right wing asshole. Over on The Spearhead, the only ones who seem to have an issue with Cain are those who, well, let’s just say that they probably also think burning crosses make great lawn decorations:
Black men are notorious for their sexual escapades, their testosterone being greater than that of White Men – as is their level of rape accusation. He may be innocent but he may just as well be guilty of a real indescretion.
I am happy to report that this comment got a lot of downvotes there; not every Spearheader is a raving Stormfronter. Of course, it says something about the general political and social backwardness of the site that those Spearheaders who are defending Cain from the crudest Klan-tastic racist attacks are doing so basically because they think he’s a credit to his race:
If the Blacks in America were like Herman Cain, this country would be measurably better for it and most of us would be hating on someone else.
But don’t worry: On The Spearhead they can still all agree on one central point – that women are evil, lying whores. As Keyster put it, in one of the most-highly upvoted comments in the thread:
What this indicates is that people are fed up with political correctness and the feminist/sexual grievance industry. …
In the new Femocracy you can’t date them, you can’t marry them and you can’t even work among them, without risking untold trouble for life. Is it any wonder men are distancing themselves from women, if not abandoning them altogether? How’s a man to know whether she has a “false accusation bomb” strapped to her waist or not? If you’re a man among women stay alert, you’re outside the Green Zone.
Will MRAs end up rallying around Cain in the way they rallied around Julian Assange and Dominique Strauss-Kahn? Or will something – his political views, his race? – prevent them from jumping on the Cain train? I guess we’ll just have to see.
“But surely a penny or two in a mans dented tin cup wouldn’t kill ya, would it?”
Son, my cup isn’t your cup, neither is the vast majority of the male population. Most of us aren’t computer chained whiners who have no social life, and those of us who do work and advocate for boys and men (help with at risk youth, employment aid) certainly know the issue isn’t as chronically stupid as “WOMENS GET EVERYTHING!!!!11!!”. And we certainly don’t need an advocate in the form of a lying and pathetic cow milker from Texas.
Lol. No.
(I was going to make some sort of eloquent response to this, but seriously, all it deserves is Lol. No.)
I find men fastening the bottom button on single-breasted suit jackets to be disgusting, but that doesn’t give me the right to criminalise it…
Although….
I can’t tell if you’re lucid enough to be deliberately diverting attention from the question of “why don’t MRAs help men themselves?” or if you’re just spouting off at random and the diversion was a lucky side-effect.
Anyway, shit, I pay taxes and I give to charities that help men and women equally. I also help a lot of men (including advocating for male victims of violence) at my job.
No, actually, NWO, you’re in the minority these days. Not that “most people are bigots!” would help anyway, but most people aren’t.
The support for gay marriage–and that’s marriage, not just existence–is edging up to about 50%: http://www.pollingreport.com/civil.htm
And when you get less controversial, the positive answers to questions like “should homosexuals have equal job opportunities?” is consistently in the 80s.
I wonder if NWO knows what slash fan fiction is.
The shock may kill him if he doesn’t.
@Quakers: Fixed it for you!
“MRAs just once again prove themselves to be hypocritical, male supremist liars. They are not interested in the truth. They are not interested in equality. In their eyes men are innocent always, and women are to blame for everything wrong in the world.”
“Feminists just once again prove themselves to be hypocritical, female supremist liars. They are not interested in the truth. They are not interested in equality. In their eyes women are innocent always, and men are to blame for everything wrong in the world.”
Funny…they both seem to apply.
Where did that extra period come from?
I guess with the “dented tin cup” bit you can add homelessness to the list of problems NWO does not actually has, but pities himself greatly for metaphorically having.
Someone get that man a metaphorical hankie.
(does not actually have, oopsie)
See Brandon, that doesn’t actual work because feminists as a group aren’t hypocritical supremacists. Whereas the MRM has revealed itself to contain those qualities time and time again.
A for effort, though. You stayed inside the lines and everything!
Oh, and look, Brandon’s above it all. He came here just to tell us how above it all he is.
Apparently he thinks the people who are against sexual harassment and racism, and the people who are for sexual harassment and racism, are just equally wrong, as is everyone else whose name doesn’t rhyme with Grandon.
Once again, the Troll Gang here at Manboobz proves that there is no bottom to the Bog of Eternal Stench they live in.
@Lauralot: Citation Needed. Highly subjective. Debatable.
@Holly: No. I just see feminists and MRA’s are the opposite sides of the same coin.
Well, obviously anyone who isn’t a Brandonist is just ridiculous bigot, evidence be damned.
See, Brandon, it’s not just enough to repeat the words. You have to actually understand why we use them.
Aw, he thinks he’s people!
Brandon can’t really do better than a false equivalence. This is good by his standards only because it was minimally stupid.
Lauralot: If I were feeling particularly cruel (and willing to look it up), I would send NWO to ‘My Immortal.’.
@KathleenB: My personal choice would be that fanfic (can’t think of the title now) with the infamous “I’m Bruce Wayne, I always have lube” line, but the thought of NWO reading “My Immortal” just made my night.
@hotk
“I’m fascinated at how this could involve one side enslaving the other.”
Well that’s an easy one. I’ll just use one example of many forms of State enforced slavery.
A man works and pays his taxes, his wife divorces him and gets child custody.
He of course pays child support for which he is graciously allowed visitation rights after fighting and losing equal custody in court.
So he has paid, with his taxes, to have his children kidnapped and is now being extorted.
He then loses his job and can’t afford to pay, (under the Bradley ammendment, there is no excuse not to pay), feminist law.
He of course is arrested and imprisoned, which was/is paid for by his taxes.
The ex-wife gets subsidized by Big Daddy and also get’s the child support the imprisoned man isn’t paying while in prison. His taxes have also paid for this.
We’ll say the courts ordered him to pay $150.00 a week in child support. In 6 months, when he is released fro prison, he’ll be $3900.00 in arrears to the State, jobless, penniless, homeless and now has a criminal record. The ex-wife still gets subsidized, plus the child support is being tacked on to this mans State debt.
This man has paid to have his children kidnapped, his own extortion, his own imprisonment, (debtors prison which theoretically has been abolished). This is only one example, but it sure sounds like slavery to me.
Oh, look! Brandon has figured out how to repeat words! Pretty soon he’ll be forming sentences all on his own and everything. Sigh. They grow up so quickly…
It’s funny how the guy with slave in his name doesn’t actually understand how slavery works.
Every time Slavey starts going on about Big Daddy I just think, um, dude, actual BSDM is a thing. You might want to check it out. I’m sure a nice leather daddy could help you act out these Big Daddy fantasies you have.
And then I think, what have leather guys ever done to deserve having to deal with someone like Slavey? But I honestly can’t think of any BSDM group that does deserve his creepy ass, other than the Gor people, and I don’t think they’d be too keen on his particular kink.
You know what sounds even more like slavery? Actual slavery. Which you fully endorse.
Once again, you think you have a God-given right to have a rape-slave.
MRAs and feminists are totally two sides of the same coin. It’s like, MRAs are racist and sexist, and feminists aren’t, which are opposite things, so they must be equally and oppositely bad!
Big Daddy makes me think of the anti-evolution Chick tract by the same name. I think NWO would enjoy Jack Chick’s works very much.