So some MRAs are rallying around Herman Cain – not in spite of the sexual harassment allegations against him, but because of them.
On The Spearhead, W. R. Price notes that Cain has gotten a flood of new donations since the scandal broke. His conclusion:
The support for the conservative candidate suggests that the decades-old trend of male helplessness in the face of female accusations may be coming to an end.
Other Spearheaders are a bit more blunt:
It is refreshing to see a man (politician or otherwise) in the spotlight stand up and defend himself against a P.C. hatchet-job such as “sexual harrassment” when so many before him did the whiney-baby kiss-up “I was wrong” pandering while bowing before the golden hoochie.
Meanwhile, white and nerdy on Omega Virgin Revolt (yes, that’s a real blog) has actually put his money where his mouth is, sending along a donation to Cain.
I usually don’t bother with voting. Everyone running for most offices is either a liberal feminist or a conservative feminist. To me that is no difference. However, if Herman Cain is still in the running by the time my state’s primary happens (and if he is the Republican nominee) I will vote for him.
Herman Cain is now dealing with at least three women who are claiming that he sexually harassed them. Public figures who were accused of sexual harassment in the past didn’t take on their accusers directly, but Herman Cain did. He pointed out how what is happening to him is a false accusation. As a result of this Cain has received hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations in the last few days. One of those donations was my donation.
This may not seem like much, but this small act as made Cain more anti-feminist than all of the other candidates for president.
Notice that in white and nerdy’s version of the controversy, Cain has “pointed out” that he’s being falsely accused. Actually, what Cain has done is to deny that he harassed anyone. At this point, we don’t actually know enough to judge definitively whether the allegations are true — though the fact that the National Restaurant Association paid out tens of thousands of dollars to settle the cases makes me a bit skeptical of Cain’s denials. But apparently, in W&N’s brain, there’s not even a chance he’s guilty of anything other than standing up to the dirty feminazis.
One of the commenters on Omega Virgin Revolt is even more enthusiastic about Cain than the blogger himself. Jack writes:
If Cain becomes president, we might actually see an end to the incessant pandering to women by the mindless political class. It’s about time that a politician stood up and declared that women have responsibilities in life and are not entitled to a free ride. Cain might actually do that.
Over on Reddit, meanwhile, OffensiveBrute doesn’t defend Cain so much as he defends not giving a shit about sexual harassment:
I say even if Cain is guilty, who the hell cares? Sexual harassment is illegal, but not immoral. well not the kind that Cain is accused of anyway.
Skooma714 offers a similar take:
He didn’t even touch them. They probably hear shit like that on the DC Metro everyday.
They probably are over it. They want to get some paper and attention.
And, yes, both of these comments garnered some upvotes.
Of course, not every MRA out there is rallying around Cain. On Reddit, there are plenty of MRAs who are suspending judgment on the allegations, or who dislike Cain because he’s, you know, a right wing asshole. Over on The Spearhead, the only ones who seem to have an issue with Cain are those who, well, let’s just say that they probably also think burning crosses make great lawn decorations:
Black men are notorious for their sexual escapades, their testosterone being greater than that of White Men – as is their level of rape accusation. He may be innocent but he may just as well be guilty of a real indescretion.
I am happy to report that this comment got a lot of downvotes there; not every Spearheader is a raving Stormfronter. Of course, it says something about the general political and social backwardness of the site that those Spearheaders who are defending Cain from the crudest Klan-tastic racist attacks are doing so basically because they think he’s a credit to his race:
If the Blacks in America were like Herman Cain, this country would be measurably better for it and most of us would be hating on someone else.
But don’t worry: On The Spearhead they can still all agree on one central point – that women are evil, lying whores. As Keyster put it, in one of the most-highly upvoted comments in the thread:
What this indicates is that people are fed up with political correctness and the feminist/sexual grievance industry. …
In the new Femocracy you can’t date them, you can’t marry them and you can’t even work among them, without risking untold trouble for life. Is it any wonder men are distancing themselves from women, if not abandoning them altogether? How’s a man to know whether she has a “false accusation bomb” strapped to her waist or not? If you’re a man among women stay alert, you’re outside the Green Zone.
Will MRAs end up rallying around Cain in the way they rallied around Julian Assange and Dominique Strauss-Kahn? Or will something – his political views, his race? – prevent them from jumping on the Cain train? I guess we’ll just have to see.
Everyone running is a liberal or conservative feminist? I’m sure that’s news to Rick Perry.
Lies.
We support the right of all people to presumption of innocence. Unlike feminists, MRAs believe that both women and men are human beings, and all human beings deserve presumption of innocence. Part of “presumption of innocence” is the right to defend oneself vigorously, without bigoted feminists interpreting the defence itself as evidence of wrongdoing.
We support his right to say “none of this is true.” Let the courts decide if it is true or not, and let no one claim that a black man who is falsely accused of something has to bow his head in shame and plead “mercy, mastah!”
More than anything else, liberals hate “minorities” who reject the liberal religion of hatred and apartheid. That is why Thomas was publicly lynched by feminists, and that is why Cain is being publicly lynched by feminists.
The difference is, Cain has the courage to say “liar liar pants on fire”. He has this right because of the MRM. We have returned dignity and humanity to men, boys, and fathers.
Maybe Cain is guilty, maybe he is innocent. But now he has the right of all people, to defend himself. Before the MRM, a falsely accused man had no defence. Say “liar”, and you are a being cruel to a female victim, which is evidence of guilt. Say nothing and you have something to hide, also evidence of guilt.
You have lost, bigots.
Michelle “submission” Bachman will also be really shocked to learn that she is a feminist.
There’s no such thing as verbal sexual harrassment, it’s a farce. A bunch of gender raunch sluts turn into delicate snowflakes and melt if they so much as overhear a sex joke. Poor baby. If a bad man says something that makes precious little princess swoon in astonishment, suck it up. If ya wanna be treated like like equals you gotta act like equals. Just saying you’re equal while demanding kid-glove treatment means you ain’t a mans equal.
NWO, if a guy corners you and tells you that you got a purdy mouth and a purdy ass and he’d like to take you home tonight and just taste you from the inside, I presume this wouldn’t bother you at all?
Also… If you wanna be treated like equals maybe don’t go around demanding human slaves.
The hell you MRAs believe women are human beings. Shit, son, we’ve got some here who want SLAVES. You yourself can’t wait to upgrade the wife to the VRWifeBot3000. You call us bigots? Get real.
Cain is not being lynched by feminists. That’s being done by the Perry campaign, who most likely dug this up. The MRM did not give him the fortitude to say “liar, liar.” The MRM did not give him dignity (and if this what dignity from you all looks like, let’s all take a pass, shall we). The MRM can barely back away from the computer and stop bitching about evil women long enough to scratch its own ass.
Pull the other one, it plays the world’s smallest violin.
AntZ – Presumption of innocence is for the courts. (And in these cases, he settled out of court; he was not found innocent. Nor guilty, for the record.) I’m a private citizen and I can think what I want.
Haha, you think the MRM invented the concept of jurisprudence, that’s a good one, tell me another.
‘Unlike feminists, MRAs believe that both women and men are human beings…”
This from a guy who sincerely wishes women weren’t human beings.
Did AntZ really just claim that people have the right to defend themselves against accusations because of MRAs?
Also, holy false dichotomy batman.
“Gender Raunch Slut” is totally going on the band name list.
Even if we presume that sexual harassment and assault are feminist myths and it’s physically impossible that any of these crimes have ever occurred, even then…
What the hell has the MRM ever done to help falsely accused men, ever even tried to do, besides whine on the Internet, troll on the Internet, and attack on the Internet?
Have you guys ever done anything, like, outside your homes (or hell, on the phone or by mail!) to help clear innocent men’s names? I know, wah wah, feminists won’t let us, but buddy, a lot of people didn’t “let” feminism happen either. Has the MRM ever raised money, spoken publicly, hired lawyers, staged protests, ran ads, run investigations, or anything to actually help these men?
It seems like the “activism” here begins and ends with pointing to falsely accused men (or “falsely” accused men) and posting “SEE THIS PROVES GIRLS ARE POOPHEADS!” on the Internet.
I eagerly await a comment proving me wrong…
I know multiple people before men have pointed out the hilarity inherent in the man who wants a robot wife and the man who wants a slave whining that feminists only care about one half of the population, but it’s just still too funny for me not to repeat it.
Even Anonymous gets off the internets once in a while, but it’s a fact that Men’s Rights Activism can only occur while your butt is firmly in place in front of the computer.
Oh right!! Once in a while they get some sunlight and shoot a bunch of innocent people, I forget. Or they set themselves on fire after writing a fan letter to innocent-people-shooters. Better stick to being useless nuisances on the internet.
@Holly Pervocracy
“Also… If you wanna be treated like equals maybe don’t go around demanding human slaves.”
So sayeth the gender whose demands Big Daddy has already met. Afraid to lose the elevated station Big Daddy has besowed upon you?
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“Have you guys ever done anything, like, outside your homes (or hell, on the phone or by mail!) to help clear innocent men’s names? I know, wah wah, feminists won’t let us, but buddy, a lot of people didn’t “let” feminism happen either. Has the MRM ever raised money, spoken publicly, hired lawyers, staged protests, ran ads, run investigations, or anything to actually help these men.”
Indeed we have and do, and how the MSM, feminists and Big Daddy hate it and hinder and block every attempt at helping men.
What do you reckon the ratio is of men helping women exclusively financially as opposed to women helping men exclusively financially? I mean if you really think about it there are countless womens only charities, scholarships and such, where men, from the lowest to the big boys who donate billions a year. Yet how many women donate to mens only charities? In fact, the higher up a womans position of power and wealth the more likely she seems to go out of her way to not only not help men, but to actually scorn any attempt at helping men.
My guess would be, that for every 10 billion dollars men donate to help women exclusively, women donate 1 dollar to help men exclusively. What do you think the ratio is? And as I already pointed out, women who make more seem more likely to scorn any attempt at helping men. I can’t see more women being given wealth and power by the State as a road to progress, or help for men. More feminism seems ill-fated for men.
Can any of you provide links to women of wealth pouring money into helping men exclusively so we can get some comparison? Or will this be just another excuse to say the reason women get all the help is because they’re down-trodden and oppressed by men?
the MRM…the epitome of true gender equality right? MRAs just once again prove themselves to be hypocritical, male supremist liars. They are not interested in the truth. They are not interested in equality. In their eyes men are innocent always, and women are to blame for everything wrong in the world.
And this. No words for this. Major trigger warning for the video posted. Check out the comments by YoungWiseMan and Bryan too. http://www.the-spearhead.com/2011/11/03/texas-family-court-judge-revealed-as-thug/
Lovely non-answer.
What’s funny is that by explicitly changing your tactic from “men are slaves, and slavery is wrong” to “men are slaves, and that’s wrong because that’s women’s job,” you’ve made it literally impossible for any woman to care about your bullshit. Not that there was a big risk before, but you’ve made it logically impossible. If someone’s gotta be a slave, I might as well fight for my side.
Men can help men. It’s not our fucking job. (If you want to say helping women isn’t your fucking job, go right ahead and don’t help us. You don’t even pay taxes.)
If MRA’s were serious, they’d start the Men’s Charity For Men’s Causes, not sit on the Internet crying that women didn’t do it for them, the state didn’t do it for them, why hasn’t someone gift-wrapped a social movement for us? You want falsely accused men defended? Hire them some lawyers. You want boys’ scholarships? Fund some. You want to change sexual harassment law so that it’s easier for your male boss to tell you how much he wants to lick the sweat from your ass-crack and there’s nothing you can do about it? Get lobbying!
…This place just wouldn’t be the same without you, NWO. You’re disgusting, but you sure do add some nice local color.
My guess would be, that for every 10 billion dollars men donate to help women exclusively, women donate 1 dollar to help men exclusively.
Of all the nutty things NWO writes, I think I like it most when he makes up very specific numbers/facts, admits he’s making them up, then proceeds to talk about them as though they exist outside his head.
No, wait, I changed my mind. I like it best when he explains how feminism is a Soviet/CIA plot funded by the Jews.
And the point gets sucked right into the black hole as NWO catches a word or two.
this is NWOMoron: whine whine babble babble FEMINISTS! gibberish gibberish bullshit bullshit BIG DADDY! ibbidy bibbity blubbidy MSM!!!!!!!!! whine! whine! WHAT ABOUT TEH MENZZZZZZZ? ill fated big daddy feminazi OH NOEZZZZZ! THE STATE! BIG DADDY GUBBERMINT!!!!!!! blah blah blah stupid ignorant gibberish!!!!! and, BIG DADDY! and furthermore…PRINCESSES!!!!! DELICATE SNOWFLAKES!!!!!!! GENDER RAUNCH SLUTTY SLUTTY SLUTTTZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!! AIYEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! HIYACCCCCCK! WOOT WOOT WOOT!!!!!!!!!
NWO is really great at proving my point that MRAs are internet nuisances and nothing more! 😀
Men donate to women’s issues, huh? That’s great.
MRAs are NOT the ones donating, obviously.
So we’re back to Holly’s original question:
What, exactly, have MRAs done in the real world?
MRAs specifically, not brainwashed castrated white-knighting mangina (INSERT ADDITIONAL HOMOPHOBIC SLUR HERE) men.
I see you attempted to answer….
[quote]Indeed we have and do, and how the MSM, feminists and Big Daddy hate it and hinder and block every attempt at helping men.[quote]
This isn’t even a sentence. Try again.
@Holly Pervocracy
“Men can help men. It’s not our fucking job. (If you want to say helping women isn’t your fucking job, go right ahead and don’t help us. You don’t even pay taxes.)”
The point is precious, men DO help women of their own free will, out of generosity, kindness and benevolence. Maybe it’s not womens, “fucking job.” But surely a penny or two in a mans dented tin cup wouldn’t kill ya, would it? Maybe equality also means being equally kind, generous and benevolent.
I’m fascinated at how this could involve one side enslaving the other.
Yeah, NWOslave, you do believe that all men have an inherent right to a rape-slave.
@Trollin’MRAs
“INSERT ADDITIONAL HOMOPHOBIC SLUR HERE”
The word homophobia has no sting. Most men find the actions of the LGBTQ repulsive. It isn’t fear or any feminist theory nonsense. It’s just an act most people find disgusting.
I make it a point to not be kind and benevolent to men that think sluts deserve to get raped, and believe that women should be slaves to men.
Everyone else is fair game though. I’ve given money to homeless people on the street before.