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Men’s Rights Redditor MrStinkybutt: Wrong about everything?

Question: Are some Men’s Rights Redditors simply incapable of being right about anything? Take this quote I ran across today from the eminent MrStinkybutt, who thinks he has the whole Herman Cain sexual harassment thing figured out.

I’m not sure what I like better, the loopy conspiracy theory or the idea that Ron Paul is a “serious candidate.”

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zhinxy
9 years ago

Paul runs to get attention for himself and his oddball goldbug minarchist libertarianism, I thought even staunch supporters (Among which I must count near and dears!) knew he wouldn’t have a chance in an election? I thought even HE knew that? Most of all!

Moewicus
Moewicus
9 years ago

This comment is like a wrongness poem. It’s so economical. Every word rings with it. I think I can die happy now.

Joanna
9 years ago

I’ve no idea what’s going on over in the states but I’m pretty sure what this guy said was completely stupid.

zhinxy
9 years ago

I’ve no idea what’s going on over in the states but I’m pretty sure what this guy said was completely stupid.

<3

Lauralot
Lauralot
9 years ago

When someone chooses to call himself MrStinkyButt, you know he’s someone worth listening to.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

@ Lauralot – I was going to say…

What is it with MRAs and sounding like 5 year olds anyway? NWO is doing it another thread as we speak.

Magpie
Magpie
9 years ago

Going by the name, MrStinkyButt is a dog. Which has learned to use the internet. See David’s previous posts on cats using robots. We’re doomed.

Rutee Katreya
9 years ago

It’s the level their brain operates on, Cassandra.

darksidecat
9 years ago

Maybe I fell asleep and woke up in a parallel universe where Ron Paul is less of an absurd rightwing douche than Herman Cain….

vacuumslayer
vacuumslayer
9 years ago

I’ve no idea what’s going on over in the states but I’m pretty sure what this guy said was completely stupid.

Pretty much everything that’s going on in the States is completely stupid.

It’s what happens when a quarter of your population is made up of screeching, reactionary, sociopathic morons.

Wetherby
Wetherby
9 years ago

Ron Paul is a perfectly serious candidate, but the Republicans are after an electable candidate – which he patently isn’t, as he’s proved time and time again.

As for Herman Cain, pretty much all I know of him is the sexual harassment stuff. The British media have been largely ignoring him until this blew up (we’re still obsessed with Sarah Palin, apparently), whereupon they pounced on the story with typically prurient glee.

Put it like this: I’m pretty sure this is Cain’s first appearance on the homepage of the Daily Mail website, probably the most accurate barometer of current British tabloid obsessions.

Wetherby
Wetherby
9 years ago

In fact, I probably shouldn’t say this, but what the hell: every time Herman Cain appears on the news now, my wife and I start singing the South Park “Sexual Harassment Panda” song. Which is horribly unfair and appallingly wrong, but it makes us laugh like loons.

blitzgal
9 years ago

Oh, I need to make some popcorn for this thread. Bring on the butthurt libertarians!! Tee hee!

Infidel753
9 years ago

Oh, boy, now you’ve done it. The random loopiness of the MRA-osphere is as nothing compared with the Rottweiler tenacity of the obsessive Ron Paul cult. Just watch them descend on you with their interminable screeds of indigestible John Galt turgidity, as impossible to reason with as door-to-door religious cultists.

It figures there’d be a lot of overlap between libertarians and MRAs, though. The MGTOW thing has to have been inspired by “going Galt”, and the psychological pathologies look eerily similar.

JohnnyBB
JohnnyBB
9 years ago

Yeah, you might be out of your depth here, David. The manosphere is one thing, the Paulosphere is larger and far more terrifying.

Improbable Joe
Improbable Joe
9 years ago

Wow… just wow.

The thought of what happens at the intersection of the MRA menz and the Paulbots is enough to ruin my whole day. Time for some heavy drinking.

Pecunium
9 years ago

I’ve dealt the Ron Paul fanatics before. It’s not that much more tedious than the MRM. The style of obsession is similar: they have a TRUTH, and to challenge it is to be WRONG.

Which they will go on about at length. Inconsistencies, and (personal freedom is fine for everyone but pregnant women… you can force one of them them to support someone else, but no one else can be so much as asked to contribute a penny to any other human being; for anything), logical failures, which have real world evidence to show the theories to be less than sound (GOLD!) are immaterial to the paradise which will ensue when they get their way.

We can cope.

havebookswilltravel
9 years ago

I feel a bit put out by Magpie: I am positive that my dogs, a Welsh Pembroke Corgi and a stray (a possible Chihuahua-Jack Russell mix? Who knows?), have more intelligence than Mr. Stinkybutt. I mean, c’mon, my pups know to go to the bathroom outside and to sit/play dead/etc for treats. Also, I’m very pretty sure they’re blogging about me behind back… 🙂

filetofswedishfish
9 years ago

Yeeeaah….MrStinkyButt is my nickname for both my flatulent cat, and highly audible flatulent dog. Though, if they both were Ron Paul supporters, their mother is highly disappointed in them. I raised them better than that.

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

A sitting President (running for a second term) secretly orders the cold-blooded MURDER of not one, but two–that we know about–American citizens: Anwar Awlaki. and his son, Abdulrahman, as reported by Constitutional attorney Glenn Greenwald in Solon.com 2011/10/20 and nobody–except Ron Paul and his supporters–says anything!

And Ron Paul is somehow the crazy one?

We need a President who will follow the Constitution AS WRITTEN!
We need a President who knows that the Constitution exists!
We need a President Ron Paul!

I daresay that if Ron Paul is not nominated by the GOP–Stupid Party that it is–and is not elected by the largest landslide in American history, there won’t be enough left of the United States to flush down the nearest toilet!

IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

As far as Herman Cain and sexual harassment goes, is anybody still interested. Cain is a silly joke, although no worse than Rick Perry or Mitt Romney. They find a floozy or two from the ’90s and allege some improprieties between them and him.

Any evidence, even hearsay, of course, is long gone!

Where have we seen this before?

Why not go the whole hog, look at the accusing sluts (along with their friends and any others who come forward, and THEIR sexual histories, and discuss their sex lives in some salacious detail as well, from some 15, 20 or 25+ years ago…

Keep smiling!

Heck, maybe someone will even benefit from a movie DVD production and TV/ Cable rights. “Journalists” gotta eat too!

blitzgal
9 years ago

He paid them off to make it all go away, just like Bill O’Reilly did with the underling that he harassed. That’s a bit more than hearsay.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
9 years ago

We need a President who knows that the Constitution exists!

Yeah! A President who is a Constitutional scholar, perhaps!

They find a floozy or two from the ’90s and allege some improprieties between them and him.

To be fair, I’m pretty sure everyone alive during the ’90s was a floozy. An X-treme radical floozy on a skateboard, who listened to N’SYNC and learned valuable lessons about saying “NO” to drugs!

Wetherby
Wetherby
9 years ago

look at the accusing sluts

They were probably dressed provocatively. School uniforms, witches’ hats, burkas and the like.

cynickal
cynickal
9 years ago

They were probably dressed provocatively. School uniforms, witches’ hats, burkas and the like.

Sexy Pizza Delivery Drivers?

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Meller, the “accusing sluts” aren’t the ones saying anything about Cain right now. There was a gag order at the time of settlement.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

“I daresay that if Ron Paul is not nominated by the GOP–Stupid Party that it is–and is not elected by the largest landslide in American history, there won’t be enough left of the United States to flush down the nearest toilet!”

So what’s going to happen to cause this chain of events, exactly. A massive earthquake causes liquification, and thus the entire country becomes flushable?

DKM – Putting the lol in hyperbole since he first discovered the internet.

shaenon
9 years ago

I am shocked, SHOCKED, to hear such folly from the lips of the eminent Mr. Stinkybutt.

Come on, this Meller person is a put-on, isn’t he? Isn’t he?

BlackBloc
BlackBloc
9 years ago

The MRM is clearly some sort of crazy black hole, from which none of the crazy can ever get out. Hence why it ends up accumulating all of it, from anti-vacc to anti-semitism, Ron Paulites to Sovereign Citizens.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

I guess we best be prepared to get flushed, because Meller has a better chance of winning the bronze in women’s gymnastics than Paul does of being nominated.

Rutee Katreya
9 years ago

The MRM is clearly some sort of crazy black hole, from which none of the crazy can ever get out. Hence why it ends up accumulating all of it, from anti-vacc to anti-semitism, Ron Paulites to Sovereign Citizens.

We call this Crank Magnetism in the skeptic movement. If you’re a reality-denying crank in some majorly obvious way (Say, anti-vaxxination), you’re more likely to accept some other crank-ism, like naturopathy. And well, you’re not going to be in the MRM unless you have heavy duty reality shields and a lack of critical thinking, so…

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

The MRM does seem to be the ur-conspiracy movement, doesn’t it?

BlackBloc
BlackBloc
9 years ago

I love how the fact that Cain’s employers paid two large settlements involving a complete NDA on the allegations (which is why the women themselves haven’t come forward with that story, but the journalists had to dig for other witnesses) is “probably just hearsay”. Because corporations are in the business of paying large sums to women for absolutly no reason.

kladle
kladle
9 years ago

Johnny and Pecunium are right, Paulites are very fervent about some very strange things and you could make a “Book of Learning” from their beliefs that easily comes out twice as wacky as anything out of NWO’s mouth.

A friend and I once ran into some Paul-mongers during the 2008 election when we went downtown to do some shopping. My friend unfortunately tried to engage them in conversation. I learned that it’s apparently ok to dissolve the FDA* because they’re hiding that Vitamin E cures cancer. Thanks, guys.

*For those not in the US, the Food and Drug Administration, they regulate food and pharmaceutical safety (and cosmetics and some other stuff). Ron Paul supports eliminating it or severely cutting it back because it “restricts your freedom” to “manage your own health” by doing things like drinking unpasteurized milk and trying to cure cancer with water. Also, the FDA is corrupted by big corporations wielding power over the food supply, so that’s why we should let the big corporations set their own quality standards. Don’t ask me how that makes any sense.

Kyrie
Kyrie
9 years ago

“We need a President who will follow the Constitution AS WRITTEN!
We need a President who knows that the Constitution exists!
We need a President Ron Paul!”
Is it just me or does that sound just a little bit cult-ish?

“I daresay that if Ron Paul is not nominated by the GOP”
IF. lol.

“Any evidence, even hearsay, of course, is long gone!”
When you write “evidence”, all I can read is “things that wold prove me right”

“Where have we seen this before?”
Every time loonies are presented with evidence and refused to believe it?

“look at the accusing sluts”
So, are they slut because of their clothes? (Do you know what they wear?) Are they sluts because of their sexual history? But,… Wait… All you know is that who they apparently didn’t have sex with, since it is a conspiracy! So they could well be more virgin that the virgin Mary herself! So, are they sluts because they dared accuse a man, and whatever he did/did not do, women should never be allowed to accuse a man?

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
9 years ago

Because corporations are in the business of paying large sums to women for absolutly no reason.

Is it because we sit in the middle of the road and cry?

Pecunium
9 years ago

Meller: You are kidding right? Because I’ve read lots of complaint about the excutive reserving the right to kill anyone he pleases.

But those pesky little facts…

And really; were you this loud and proud when it was Bush doing it?

How about St. Ronnie?

Yeah, I know you will say you hated it then, but what did you do about it?

I’ll bet it wasn’t much more than you are doing now, to bring about the cybersluts of the future paradise… that is yelling at people on the internet or not falling at your feet and declaring how right you are about this.

Paul is an joke. He’s an opportunist, who got himself elected as a Republican, and continues to run as one, even when his constituents would vote for him as a Libertarian.

Pecunium
9 years ago

Kladle: To expand on the FDA explication, it wasn’t until a series of product related deaths from things like thallium-based (not tainted, based) ointments, to arsenic based “tonics” meant to “clarify” the skin (i.e. make it pale and tranlucent), as well as energy drinks based on radium.

Even at that the business interests which made those products managed to successfully fight off even so limited an intrusion on their behavior as ingredient lists until well into the 1930s.

This is what Ron Paul says is too much intrusion on private enterprise.

kysokisaen
9 years ago

Other fun pre-FDA tidbits include Zonite, the bleach-based douche that was also marketed as mouthwash and asswash in previous lives, and which is still a brand name today (although with different ingredients). Lysol also marketed itself as a douche, but trusted the user to dilute it properly – not a foolproof plan if you care at all about the mucus membranes of your customers.

Today, meat is injected with ammonia to keep the e. coli at bay and you can buy a face-peeling acid mask to use in the privacy of your own home. Could you imagine the things you’d have to worry about in the grocery store if the government wasn’t keeping an eye on shit like that?

Magpie
Magpie
9 years ago

I agree that dogs are more intelligent than MRAs, but he’s only just learning to type in english. It was wise of him to start with a persona where mistakes wouldn’t give him away. 🙂

Magpie
Magpie
9 years ago

Re: the FDA stuff – it’s not knowing history again, isn’t it. They don’t look back to see why the FDA was invented in the first place. They wouldn’t even have to trust historians* because a lot of old newspapers have been put online these days. You can read what was reported about food problems at the time.

*Who might be working for the Illuminati or whatever.

VoiP
VoiP
9 years ago

We call this Crank Magnetism in the skeptic movement. If you’re a reality-denying crank in some majorly obvious way (Say, anti-vaxxination), you’re more likely to accept some other crank-ism, like naturopathy.

Historians and sociologists call this (or, more properly, the environment in which it occurs) the cultic milieu.

Improbable Joe
Improbable Joe
9 years ago

You know… DMK makes good points about the fact that Obama is not an ideal president. Unfortunately for him, logic dictates that pointing out the flaws of one thing is not automatic support for some other thing. Obama isn’t perfect, but that doesn’t change the fact that Ron Paul is an anti-American idiot.

kladle
kladle
9 years ago

@ magpie, pecunium, kysokisaen

I know, right?!?! It’s an astonishing lack of both foresight and hindsight to say that the “free market” can ensure product safety. I mean, supposedly the argument is that people won’t buy things that are adulterated or make them sick, but as Pecunium said, even ingredient lists are regulations that had to be fought for. In a world without these sorts of regulations imposed on food and drug producers, it’s impossible for consumers to take “rational actions” about managing their health because they don’t have the information necessary to do so. There’s nothing making sure that what is claimed about a product corresponds to what is in the product or that it’s something the product can actually do. And there’s no way any private individual has enough clout or knowledge to ensure that their food and drugs aren’t tainted.

I was thinking of the “swill milk” scandals in the mid 1800s. Swill milk was milk obtained from unhealthy cows raised on leftover mash from distilleries, and then it was extended with water, had Plaster of Paris added to get rid of the nasty bluish color, and then had eggs, starch, and molasses added to thicken it and cover up the taste. The NYT estimated that about 8000 children a year died from consuming adulterated milk: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/opinion/30wilson.html?partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

Pecunium
9 years ago

Kladle: The reason milk is required to be sold from sealed containers is to prevent it being cut with water.

As Thoreau said, “Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, as when you find a trout in the milk.”

NWOslave
NWOslave
9 years ago

@kysokisaen
“Could you imagine the things you’d have to worry about in the grocery store if the government wasn’t keeping an eye on shit like that?”

Well if that’s the case, cancer, diabetes and pretty much every disease/ailment should be dropping drastically thanks to Big Daddy. Funny how the opposite is the case. One would think with all Big Daddy’s intervention medical expenditures would’ve plummeted due to all the healthy folks. Once again, the opposite is the case. Thank goodness Big Daddy is there to care for us all and guide us spiritually as well.

Kyrie
Kyrie
9 years ago

http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/lawyer-cain-accuser-wants-to-talk-but-is-barred-by-agreement/2011/11/01/gIQA0bOIdM_story.html?hpid=z1

I don’t know how, but I’m sure it is further proof that this woman is a slut and a lying scumbag.

@Joe: I find it funny how often the “anti-American” insult is used. On one side, I wonder why you don’t simply use insults that describe more precisely what you mean (incompetent, crazy with power/money, corrupted, stupid,..) One the other side, it must be nice to have such a high opinion of your country.

Sharculese
9 years ago

We need a President who will follow the Constitution AS WRITTEN!
We need a President who knows that the Constitution exists!
We need a President Ron Paul!

again, i find it adorable when these loons go on about how they and only they understand the constitution. youre not cato. shit, youre not even the federal farmer.

ron pauls entire theory of constitutional interpretation hinges on the idea that mcculloch v. maryland was wrong decided. when youre disagreeing with chief justice marshall writing for a unanimous court, chances are pretty good youre reading the constitution wrong. when youre arguing we should overturn one of the big three of early con law (marbury, mcculloch, & gibbons)… thats insane, nobody cares go away.

ps: i know your fantasy world cant accommodate this fact, dkm, but barack obama used to teach the constitution. in law schools. fancy ones. yeah, i know, he subscribes to that ‘living constitution’ stuff youre against because you were told to be against but, well, thats a theory of the constitution people take seriously. what ron paul peddles? thats not theory, thats masturbation.

oh, and it turns out disagreeing with angry white supremacists isnt grounds for impeachment… yet.

Spearhafoc
9 years ago

I fail to understand what NWOslave has against Big Daddy Roth.

Myoo
Myoo
9 years ago

Well, NWO, from what I gathered in a superficial search, diabetes rates seem to be going up, but cancer rates are going down. I’m not sure about “pretty much every disease/ailment” , because that is a lot of diseases/ailments, many of which are viral, bacterial, genetic, or otherwise outside the scope of what the FDA could do to prevent them. Mortality rates have been steadily decreasing, that much I’m sure of. Maybe you have different stats, well if so please show them, I’m sure you’re not just pulling those numbers out of your ass.