The other day we met some Men Going Their Own Way who are so baffled by lesbianism that they simply refuse to believe that lesbians actually exist. But not all MGTOWers hold this position. Indeed, one new visitor to MGTOWforums.com, a guy calling himself Chainsaw King, has a rather different take: Lesbians not only exist, he argues; they are in his opinion “the only good women.” Let’s hear him out:
Yes, I acknowledge the existence of Roise O’Donnell, Ellen DeGeneres, and whatever other celebrity lesbian you hate. …
But it would be foolish to judge all lesbians based on the evil that is Ellen.
I’m sort of involved with the gay community, which is something I reccomend to the people here if you have no problem with them. … Anyway, because of that I’m also friends with a lot of lesbians … Their personalities are likeable – and they show signs of empathy and intellect, to mention the least.
That sound you hear is a thousand tiny MGTOW heads exploding.
Yeah, there are some fat or butch loud whores and “bisexuals” who act like the typical woman. But I’m not even sure if they’re really lesbian; just man haters or something. Ignore them.
I’m not just saying this because I’m pro-gay or anything. I honestly couldn’t give a shit. It’s really remarkable; like if I had no exposure to lesbians and I read this post, I’d probably class it as bullshit. Meet some for yourself to prove it.
As you can imagine, this argument did not go over very well with most of the regulars. (The thread is short; I’m not going to bother linking to individual comments.)
Forum moderator MrLahey responded bluntly:
Being a lesbian removes the only incentive I’d ever have to interact with her. Catch 22 ? 😛
Goldenfetus, meanwhile, reiterated the “lesbians don’t exist” theory we examined the other day:
I’m not even sure I believe in lesbians. I have the vague impression it’s just a phase of man-hating or penis-envy-revenge that most women outgrow. The only one I know is a cousin who was always posting lesbo crap on Facebook when I still used it. She was more accurately ‘lesbian until graduation’ than full-blown, but still far from what you describe. The few others I have been exposed to were c****. Maybe I’ll accept this challenge to meet some in the wild, but I don’t know where, exactly, to begin.
Goldenfetus, even though I’m a straight dude I think in this one instance I can speak for the lesbians of the world when I say: Don’t bother to try to meet any actual lesbians. Just continue imagining that they don’t exist, and they will continue to imagine that you don’t exist, and everyone will be happy.
Most of the other commenters, while not denying the very existence of lesbians, were simply baffled by the notion that lesbians could possibly be decent human beings. “I thought lesbians usually hate men even more than straight women do,” Truyardy wondered. “I thought lesbians make up a large portion of the feminazi community.”
shade47, previously on record as a Lesbian Denier, seems to have changed his mind on this point. But he still doesn’t seem to fully understand the concept of lesbianism:
I’m calling big time bullshit on the origional poster. Awalt [All Women Are Like That] goes for lesbos too. Why hang out with a cool lesbo when you can safely hang out with a normal cool male friend. women are women noatter what is politically correct and if you and your super cool lesbo pal get really drunk one night and fuck it is exponentially more likely she will make a false accusation against you to save face… Never will happen with male friends.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure that thing with the “super cool lesbo pal” is never gonna happen either.
Womanhater offered the most ingenious MGTOWer solution to the Lesbian Problem: He managed to express his deep hatred of lesbians –while simultaneously arguing that they (or at least 90% of them) don’t really exist. Let’s see how he pulled this off:
Dykes are women. That really is all that should need to be said.
I find that in my experience 90-95% of dykes are man-haters. There are indeed that delightful 5-10% that are just wired to like twat, but the other 90-95% are lesbo because they are either too hateful, broken, envious, whatever to sustain a relationship with a man. …
[N]o matter how you slice it, a dyke has 2 X chromosomes, and is therefore firmly beneath the AWALT [All Women Are Like That] umbrella in my book.
And that was pretty much the final word on that subject. Chainsaw King doesn’t seem to have returned to the thread to see the mess he’s created. Or maybe he saw it and fled in horror and disgust.
There were, however, a few other commenters who used the thread as an opportunity to vent their hatred not of lesbians but of gay men – or at least the “flamboyant” kind. I think you may be able to guess their main objection. Sam I Am was the most, er, eloquent of the bunch:
Flambuoyant gay men are just…. abnormal. They get really fucking annoying really quickly…
They are men, but they’re acting like bitches… like, on fucking purpose. That’s abnormal and annoying just like … I dunno.. a person who just talks too fucking much. Two — you can’t make up your mind whether you’re more annoyed at the abnormality of men acting and talking like women, or at the feeling that you’re just around a bunch of women, period.
I don’t think MGTOWers will be invited to march in any Pride Parades any time soon.
also it can often be determined by societal gender ROLES but not as often by genitalia they were born with. very different things.
I think we’re actually agreeing though haha i can’t read these threads full on so i just grab bits and pieces in my free time 🙂
Says the guy who’s never savaged a vagina in his life. At least not with his dick.
BTW, I’m a Bill Maher fan. He’s mellowing in his dotage and much much much less douchey these days. And, man, when he rips into the teabaggers and religious folks, he’s pretty sublime.
Brandon, congrats on running circles around these holes. Holes, your reign on Manboobz has come to a fucking end.
Notice the rise of MRAs on this board? We’re fucking tired of you holes having the run of this place. Brandon, Broseidon, Simon, me… we’re here to defend ourselves from Futrelle’s slander.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, holy shit, coming you Brandon, that’s fucking AWESOME.
Yoren, is that you, MRAL?
Of course it is. Childish as ever and probably no closer to dealing with his social anxiety and loneliness. Talk about a life of loud desperation.
Simply saying the word “holes” over and again does not indicate pwnage, boy.
I am not MRAL.
I am not vacuumslayer! Honest!
Aren’t midterms coming up or something? It’s been a while, admittedly but shouldn’t you have an exam to study for or paper to write? What about planning something to do? Going to a concert maybe? Getting high with some friends and and watching Machete? Eating some buffalo wings? You know, college-y stuff?
And, yes, Yoren is indeed MRAL.
I gotta remember to check IPs before letting new commenters post. In my defense, his first comment was pretty innocuous and not-obviously MRALish.
Let me out of moderation, Dave!! *pounds glass*
At least he expanded his vocabulary in his brief time away, I guess. Now we get to be holes as well as gashes.
So…it’s okay when he’s douchey to other people? #IsAReligiousFolk
…said by a sockpuppet. That’s either some hilariously self-awareness or some hilarious obliviousness.
Does it interfere with your bizarre Freudian obsession with Vagina Dentata to point out that men also have orifices?
Of all the ways to claim your superiority over someone, “there’s a hole in your body!” is… not one of the more effective ones.
@Yoren, MRAL, whatever: Holes? Come on man.
BTW, I’m a Bill Maher fan. He’s mellowing in his dotage and much much much less douchey these days. And, man, when he rips into the teabaggers and religious folks, he’s pretty sublime.
that’s good, like i said he certainly does get a lot of things right. i just wish i could watch him more/follow him without him saying something that makes me feel like smashing something.
lol “holes”? really? i’ve seen him say “gashes” too. he uses that to prove he’s not a bigot though? wow.
MRAL, troll better, son.
I love the little troll hierarchy we have here! NWO grosses out MRAL, who grosses out Brandon!
Manboobz is the first blog I’ve seen that boasts such a robust multi-tiered troll ecology.
I dunno. Define “douchey.” Usually when he pokes religious folks it’s because of their hypocrisy. Like when people who call themselves Christians celebrate the death of, well, anyone. Technically if you’re a Christian, you’re not supposed to do that. So, yeah, he’ll riff on stuff like that. If that’s douchey, I guess I’m ok with that.
And I’m not sure there ways that won’t offend religious people to say “I think religion is on par with believing the Greek gods are real.” I do. Is there a nice way to say that? I don’t know.
But as this is a board about misogyny and not religion, I will absolutely limit my comments on the subject and do my best to respectful of people of faith.
Believing the Greek gods are real is a religion.
Virtually all of Bill Maher’s humor consists of how other people suck and are lame and how he/people like him are so much better. It’s very easy to find this funny when you fall on the right side of it–but he’s still being a douche, regardless of who the target is.
Well, it certainly was one. I’m pretty sure most people refer to it as “mythology” now.