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Return to Lesbos: Are lesbians the only good women?

The other day we met some Men Going Their Own Way who are so baffled by lesbianism that they simply refuse to believe that lesbians actually exist. But not all MGTOWers hold this position. Indeed, one new visitor to MGTOWforums.com, a guy calling himself Chainsaw King, has a rather different take: Lesbians not only exist, he argues; they are in his opinion “the only good women.” Let’s hear him out:

Yes, I acknowledge the existence of Roise O’Donnell, Ellen DeGeneres, and whatever other celebrity lesbian you hate. …

But it would be foolish to judge all lesbians based on the evil that is Ellen.

I’m sort of involved with the gay community, which is something I reccomend to the people here if you have no problem with them. … Anyway, because of that I’m also friends with a lot of lesbians … Their personalities are likeable – and they show signs of empathy and intellect, to mention the least.

That sound you hear is a thousand tiny MGTOW heads exploding.

Yeah, there are some fat or butch loud whores and “bisexuals” who act like the typical woman. But I’m not even sure if they’re really lesbian; just man haters or something. Ignore them.

I’m not just saying this because I’m pro-gay or anything. I honestly couldn’t give a shit. It’s really remarkable; like if I had no exposure to lesbians and I read this post, I’d probably class it as bullshit. Meet some for yourself to prove it.

As you can imagine, this argument did not go over very well with most of the regulars. (The thread is short; I’m not going to bother linking to individual comments.)

Forum moderator MrLahey responded bluntly:

Being a lesbian removes the only incentive I’d ever have to interact with her. Catch 22 ? 😛

Goldenfetus, meanwhile, reiterated the “lesbians don’t exist” theory we examined the other day:

I’m not even sure I believe in lesbians. I have the vague impression it’s just a phase of man-hating or penis-envy-revenge that most women outgrow. The only one I know is a cousin who was always posting lesbo crap on Facebook when I still used it. She was more accurately ‘lesbian until graduation’ than full-blown, but still far from what you describe. The few others I have been exposed to were c****. Maybe I’ll accept this challenge to meet some in the wild, but I don’t know where, exactly, to begin.

Goldenfetus, even though I’m a straight dude I think in this one instance I can speak for the lesbians of the world when I say: Don’t bother to try to meet any actual lesbians. Just continue imagining that they don’t exist, and they will continue to imagine that you don’t exist, and everyone will be happy.

Most of the other commenters, while not denying the very existence of lesbians, were simply baffled by the notion that lesbians could possibly be decent human beings. “I thought lesbians usually hate men even more than straight women do,” Truyardy wondered. “I thought lesbians make up a large portion of the feminazi community.”

shade47, previously on record as a Lesbian Denier, seems to have changed his mind on this point. But he still doesn’t seem to fully understand the concept of lesbianism:

I’m calling big time bullshit on the origional poster. Awalt [All Women Are Like That] goes for lesbos too. Why hang out with a cool lesbo when you can safely hang out with a normal cool male friend. women are women noatter what is politically correct and if you and your super cool lesbo pal get really drunk one night and fuck it is exponentially more likely she will make a false accusation against you to save face… Never will happen with male friends.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure that thing with the “super cool lesbo pal” is never gonna happen either.

Womanhater offered the most ingenious MGTOWer solution to the Lesbian Problem: He managed to express his deep hatred of lesbians –while simultaneously arguing that they (or at least 90% of them) don’t really exist. Let’s see how he pulled this off:

Dykes are women. That really is all that should need to be said.

I find that in my experience 90-95% of dykes are man-haters. There are indeed that delightful 5-10% that are just wired to like twat, but the other 90-95% are lesbo because they are either too hateful, broken, envious, whatever to sustain a relationship with a man. …

[N]o matter how you slice it, a dyke has 2 X chromosomes, and is therefore firmly beneath the AWALT [All Women Are Like That] umbrella in my book.

And that was pretty much the final word on that subject. Chainsaw King doesn’t seem to have returned to the thread to see the mess he’s created. Or maybe he saw it and fled in horror and disgust.

There were, however, a few other commenters who used the thread as an opportunity to vent their hatred not of lesbians but of gay men – or at least the “flamboyant” kind. I think you may be able to guess their main objection. Sam I Am was the most, er, eloquent of the bunch:

Flambuoyant gay men are just…. abnormal. They get really fucking annoying really quickly…

They are men, but they’re acting like bitches… like, on fucking purpose. That’s abnormal and annoying just like … I dunno.. a person who just talks too fucking much. Two — you can’t make up your mind whether you’re more annoyed at the abnormality of men acting and talking like women, or at the feeling that you’re just around a bunch of women, period.

I don’t think MGTOWers will be invited to march in any Pride Parades any time soon.

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hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

^women. typing fail.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Hey, look on the bright side – we should be thanking Simon for giving us permission to completely ignore him.

Simon
Simon
8 years ago

“Lesbians and normal women”…

Oh, hellkell, there’s a lot truth in these four words… they are deceptively simple, but they go deep and reach into many corners!

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
8 years ago

Isn’t Simon just that “Marc” guy that David banned months ago for losing his shit and going on a holy tear about concentration camps and fat people and so on?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
8 years ago

“Oh no, no, no, I’m not an MRA, I’m just your garden variety of troll who is 100% fake and who can’t write anything but lies. A necessary part of the internet ecosystem which emerges when people take themselves too seriously.”

But wait, if you say you write nothing but lies… it means that you are lying when you say that! So you tell some truth! Damn you and your tricksy ways!

Simon
Simon
8 years ago

hellkell, I’ll leave you, don’t be sad.

Ray Percival
8 years ago

Hershele Ostropoler,

Thanks for the explanation.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
8 years ago

What I can’t figure out is why the handful of people David bans and/or puts on moderation can’t stay away? Talk about taking yourself too seriously.

Dracula
Dracula
8 years ago

Holy shit, is he still trying to troll? After blowing his cover a few minutes ago? He really is a fuckin’ moron.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Simon, “normal” should have been in quotes, but you can cram it sideways with walnuts and fuck right off with your bigotry, OK?

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

What I can’t figure out is why the handful of people David bans and/or puts on moderation can’t stay away? Talk about taking yourself too seriously.

Yes, they have Advanced Special Snowflakitis. They’re under the delusion that what they have to say to us is so mind-blowingly excellent, they can’t help themselves.

Moewicus
Moewicus
8 years ago

I suspect Amanda Marcotte is behind this.

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