The daffy, excitable Man Going His Own Way who calls himself MarkyMark may be my favorite manosphere blogger of all. Not only does he bring the lulz himself – who can forget the time he wrote a completely unironic point by point rebuttal of an Onion article? – but he also helps to bring attention to the equally stupefying work of others.
In his latest post, he directs our attention to some observations made by fellow MGTOWer Spock’s Disciple on the Happy Bachelors forum on the subject of pussy and its discontents. “This is good stuff, stuff my boys need to read,” Mark writes. “[Spock’s Disciple], like his hero, applied cold hearted logic when analzying pussy. The Force is STRONG with that one!”
Yes, he actually wrote that. I don’t think it’s a joke. I think he honestly does not know that there is a difference between Star Trek and Star Wars. How that is possible, I do not know.
Anyway, on to the eminently rational Spock’s Disciple, reflecting on the irrational power of the ladybits:
Remember that pussy is a biochemical WMD; wherever it is used, there is mass chaos and destruction. How many wars and conflicts have been fought at the urging and behest of women? More than any honest man would admit to and would be proud of.
Young men are apparently helpless in the face of the punany:
The need for pussy is a very real and built in addiction for men. We are hardwired by nature for sex and procreation. … [T]he sight and sound of pussy blinds younger men and allows them to be controlled by women though their hormones.
The, uh, SOUND of pussy? If I had to pick just two (or three, or four) sensory experiences relating to the vagina that would be generally considered appealing to heterosexual males, I’m not sure “sound” would make the cut.
But eventually even the horniest dudes start to get less horny – and thus less hypnotized by the power of the pussy. The only trouble is that by the time they lose interest in sex most of them are married, and they’re now stuck with the woman whose vagina formerly had them in thrall. It’s a grave injustice.
[W]hen most men pass the age of 30-35, they begin to awaken from this biochemical “dream” and what do they awaken beside? What do married men look forward to the next 30-50 years of their lives? Sleeping with a living corpse, which continues to torture and destroy them day by day? Looking forward to the time when the woman undergoes the process of metamorphosis, into a completely insane mummy (menopause and post menopause)?
This seems a tad alarmist. I mean, if your wife turns into a monster zombie-mummy – as all women apparently do after they hit their mid-thirties – you could always get separate bedrooms.
But Obi-Wan’s Spock’s Disciple has a more radical solution: don’t get into bed with the ladies in the first place!
Pussy is indeed way overrated and if younger men could get a shot of “anti-testosterone” for a few weeks, they could see through the eyes of men who are 40+; without the haze of hormones, you cannot believe how much farther you can see! It’s the difference between seeing the horizon through LA style smog and seeing the horizon from a high mountain in the Rockies.
Pussy is a man’s Achilles heel; once that man realizes this and takes the appropriate steps, he’ll never lose his peace of mind again. To these skeptical young men I say, there is an infinitely vast arena where you can have anything you desire, and can succeed at anything you wish to try for; all you have to do is see women for what they truly are, and become a master of the beast within; once you do that women’s true face will be visible to you, and you’ll never again partake of that foul potion.
It is possible to tame that beast, and indeed it is a certainty that you will learn much from the process of taming it; all it takes is patience and time. Look at your fellow men, your brothers in arms, and look at their almost invisible chains, and wonder at why you would desire such an existence for yourself?
And, hey, if all else fails, MarkyMark adds some advice of his own: pay a visit to Pamela Handerson before going out on the town with one of those vagina-people.
[T]here is one thing that the younger men can do until their sex drives die down permanently: masturbate before going out with a woman. … To put it another way, since the little head had been, shall we say, quieted down, the bigger head could work properly; the bigger head will then allow you to see a woman for who she REALLY is.
If you’re a fan of Spock, and looking for appropriate masturbatory material, might I suggest this?
OMG Brandon is the person he’s been screening for! Shun yourself, shuuuun!
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She is pro-choice (as am I)
She is for equal pay for the same work/hours spent (as am I)
She likes being independent and I don’t want her to be “stuck in the kitchen” (so win-win)
@BlackBloc: Advocating violence and slavery are we?
Well, if two toy companies do, everyone must! Do you see where I have a problem with you?
Bullshit.
@Brandon: Every cent of profit was taken from an actual worker, so when it comes to slavery, I’m actually just advocating that the 1% pay us back what we so graciously paid them up front with our own sweat. With interests.
I think that makes me a pretty magnanimous person. Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette did not get that opportunity to make amends for their crimes.
@Hellkell: You made a sweeping statement that companies operating on a 10% profit margin would go out of business. My point was that companies can do well with only a 10% profit margin.
Bullshit? Really? Do you know every single woman I have interacted with? Do you think I haven’t tailored my conversation skills to move her to point out if she is a feminist or not? I PURPOSELY bring up topics that will help me determine if she is or isn’t.
Of course. Ashley, as described by Brandon, is naturally “I’m not a feminist but…” type.
And all women who have no trouble referring to themselves as feminists should be screened. Because we’re argumentative. Certainly, women who claim not to be feminists are never argumentative. And everyone one knows that women who declare themselves feminists pick fights with their boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives on a regular basis.
I agree with your approach to screening, Brandon. I believe that it has probably worked out perfectly for you and I want you and Ashley to stay together (sans marriage, of course) forever. Really and truly. But your view of the world and the people in it is just so laughably limited.
If I were the type to giggle, I’d be “tee-heeing” all over the place.
@BlackBloc: You said you wanted to move speculators and day traders to work camps somewhere in the midwest. So I see that you are advocating for unpaid work camps for these individuals. And they said feminists advocated against slavery. You have to knock the white man down so you can take his place. Good job comrade! All hail Che BlackBloc!
@nobinayamu: Is there something wrong with the “I don’t call myself a feminist but…” types?
@Brandon: Us workers work all our lives for less than 10% the worth of our work. The day traders and stock brokers can work off their debt to us all, and then when they’re finished they’ll have learned a few new skills so they can be useful and earn a livelyhood in a world where people don’t allow the continuation of their state-endorsed thievery.
Sure beats the guillotine.
You said that MOST women will tell you off the bat if they are feminists. I called bullshit. You’re starting in with the weasely “most” because you know “all” won’t fly. But you’re still dumb enough to try.
No, I do not know every single woman you’ve interacted with, but I do feel sorry for them.
If your conversation here is any indication of how you tailor, I’d say that sucks too.
And I prefer Comrades Flores Magon and Makhno, personally.
Are we still playing the game where Ashely exists? Because Brandon describes a fiction of a good woman.
Sorry, that’s “Where we pretend Ashley exists”
I know I’m really late with this, but: Brandon, evolutionary psychology is not a real science. I don’t know if you know anything about that field, but your “alpha” nonsense and that waist-hip ratio crap comes straight outta ev psych. You shouldn’t listen to those fuckers. They abuse statistics in a way that’d make the most hardcore dom blush. They also tend to draw their conclusions from surveys that are administered to college-age Americans, because they can have their classes do them for extra credit. Convenience samples are highly problematic, as are assuming that college kids’ questionnaire responses somehow adequately reflect universal human behavior. For one thing, what you say you do or feel does not always equal what you actually do or feel.
As someone mentioned above, it makes more sense to either look more closely at our own evolutionary tree – chiimps are classic examples, but bonobos are getting more popular these days – or to look at actual humans. I like hunter-gatherers, myself! They’re by no means relics, but they do have more in common with our pre-agricultural ancestors than we do just because of the way they make their living. And there aren’t alpha males or females in hunter-gatherer societies. There are the guys who are great hunters or really good at convincing people to do stuff, but they don’t act like the alpha males of your fevered imagination. For one, the great hunters tend not to have lots more extramarital affairs than the other guys, even as they get older and their wives start losing their looks. Secondly, all the awesomeness in the world doesn’t matter if you’re an asshole. When you live with maybe 25 people all the time and have no privacy that us industrialized people would recognize, actual personality and lack of irritatingness quickly becomes much more important than how hot some dude is or how many mammoth he’s bagged.
No. They’re generally pretty easy to spot in the wild and essentially harmless. And they’re perfect for dudes like you
The only exception is when they’ve got the “I’m not a feminist but…” thing and they’re also the “Women just don’t like me…” types. Now when those overlaps, everyone should beware. Regardless of gender. In fact, I warn my guy friends about the potential lethalness of that combination all the time.
@Hellkell: Let me rephase it so you can clearly understand. I don’t want to leave any seeds of doubt in your mind.
“Within the first 5-10 minutes of meeting a woman, I will find out if she is a feminist.”
@Rutee: You are so adorable when you are wrong. It’s ok lil buddy…you will get me next time.
>>They abuse statistics in a way that’d make the most hardcore dom blush.
Nice one. You win an Internetz. You can pick it up at your local Internetz store.
Personally I just love how these evopsych theories on how coupling universally works in humans thanks to our Neolithic and ape ancestors just happen to be very close to the stereotypes of how matchmaking work in Western individualized societies, when at least a third of the world’s population live in societies that until very recently, and for many it could be argued it is true even to this day, where couples were formed through arranged marriages between patrilineal lineages or tribes.
Thanks!
Seriously, it’s amazes me how they manage to make the Pleistocene look like 1950’s middle America. I’m pretty sure the Venus figurines do not have the appropriate waist-hip ratio.
*it is amazing to me, blast.
That is not what you said at first, weasel-boy. Own your shit.
@Random6x7: Ok, then what is your theory on why heterosexual men tend to flock towards the Halle Berry’s and Mila Kunis’ of the world?
Word. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_%28love%29#Historical_definition
“In Ladies of the Leisure Class, Rutgers University professor Bonnie G. Smith depicts courtship and marriage rituals that may be viewed as oppressive to modern people. She writes “When the young women of the Nord married, they did so without illusions of love and romance. They acted within a framework of concern for the reproduction of bloodlines according to financial, professional, and sometimes political interests.” Subsequent sexual revolution has lessened the conflicts arising out of liberalism, but not eliminated them.
Anthony Giddens, in his book The Transformation of Intimacy: Sexuality, Love and Eroticism in Modern Society, states that romantic love introduced the idea of a narrative into an individual’s life. He adds that telling a story was one of the meanings of romance. According to Giddens, the rise of romantic love more or less coincided with the emergence of the novel. It was then that romantic love, associated with freedom and therefore the ideals of romantic love, created the ties between freedom and self-realization.”
I don’t really care if she’s real or not, but the way you describe her to us, she agrees with you about everything, is hot, doesn’t want to marry, is either okay with or doesn’t realize you (allegedly) sleep around, and is always okay with Brandon’s Way of Doing Everything, and has no needs of her own. That’s really not conducive to us believing you, even if she is in fact right there. Which is itself fine, except you seem to mind that we don’t instantly believe you too.