The daffy, excitable Man Going His Own Way who calls himself MarkyMark may be my favorite manosphere blogger of all. Not only does he bring the lulz himself – who can forget the time he wrote a completely unironic point by point rebuttal of an Onion article? – but he also helps to bring attention to the equally stupefying work of others.
In his latest post, he directs our attention to some observations made by fellow MGTOWer Spock’s Disciple on the Happy Bachelors forum on the subject of pussy and its discontents. “This is good stuff, stuff my boys need to read,” Mark writes. “[Spock’s Disciple], like his hero, applied cold hearted logic when analzying pussy. The Force is STRONG with that one!”
Yes, he actually wrote that. I don’t think it’s a joke. I think he honestly does not know that there is a difference between Star Trek and Star Wars. How that is possible, I do not know.
Anyway, on to the eminently rational Spock’s Disciple, reflecting on the irrational power of the ladybits:
Remember that pussy is a biochemical WMD; wherever it is used, there is mass chaos and destruction. How many wars and conflicts have been fought at the urging and behest of women? More than any honest man would admit to and would be proud of.
Young men are apparently helpless in the face of the punany:
The need for pussy is a very real and built in addiction for men. We are hardwired by nature for sex and procreation. … [T]he sight and sound of pussy blinds younger men and allows them to be controlled by women though their hormones.
The, uh, SOUND of pussy? If I had to pick just two (or three, or four) sensory experiences relating to the vagina that would be generally considered appealing to heterosexual males, I’m not sure “sound” would make the cut.
But eventually even the horniest dudes start to get less horny – and thus less hypnotized by the power of the pussy. The only trouble is that by the time they lose interest in sex most of them are married, and they’re now stuck with the woman whose vagina formerly had them in thrall. It’s a grave injustice.
[W]hen most men pass the age of 30-35, they begin to awaken from this biochemical “dream” and what do they awaken beside? What do married men look forward to the next 30-50 years of their lives? Sleeping with a living corpse, which continues to torture and destroy them day by day? Looking forward to the time when the woman undergoes the process of metamorphosis, into a completely insane mummy (menopause and post menopause)?
This seems a tad alarmist. I mean, if your wife turns into a monster zombie-mummy – as all women apparently do after they hit their mid-thirties – you could always get separate bedrooms.
But Obi-Wan’s Spock’s Disciple has a more radical solution: don’t get into bed with the ladies in the first place!
Pussy is indeed way overrated and if younger men could get a shot of “anti-testosterone” for a few weeks, they could see through the eyes of men who are 40+; without the haze of hormones, you cannot believe how much farther you can see! It’s the difference between seeing the horizon through LA style smog and seeing the horizon from a high mountain in the Rockies.
Pussy is a man’s Achilles heel; once that man realizes this and takes the appropriate steps, he’ll never lose his peace of mind again. To these skeptical young men I say, there is an infinitely vast arena where you can have anything you desire, and can succeed at anything you wish to try for; all you have to do is see women for what they truly are, and become a master of the beast within; once you do that women’s true face will be visible to you, and you’ll never again partake of that foul potion.
It is possible to tame that beast, and indeed it is a certainty that you will learn much from the process of taming it; all it takes is patience and time. Look at your fellow men, your brothers in arms, and look at their almost invisible chains, and wonder at why you would desire such an existence for yourself?
And, hey, if all else fails, MarkyMark adds some advice of his own: pay a visit to Pamela Handerson before going out on the town with one of those vagina-people.
[T]here is one thing that the younger men can do until their sex drives die down permanently: masturbate before going out with a woman. … To put it another way, since the little head had been, shall we say, quieted down, the bigger head could work properly; the bigger head will then allow you to see a woman for who she REALLY is.
If you’re a fan of Spock, and looking for appropriate masturbatory material, might I suggest this?
Nobinayamu: In my experience most women know before a date whether or not they would fuck a guy. They just don’t know whether or not they will.
Mine too.
Heroicman: In my experience, they do ask men out.
I’ve had… what… hell I don’t know how many, flings with women who came onto me (not less than 15). I’ve had two serious relationships with women who asked me out.
One of those lasted for two years, and the other for ten. I’ve had a fair number of affairs which were more than flings, and less than serious, with women who made it plain they were interested if I was.
Maybe it’s you.
“Maybe it’s you.”
Yeah, they do tend to take the one bad experience they’ve had with women and put it down to feminists conspiracy.
This one time, a ginger looked at me funny, therefore gingers are plotting our demise!
I’m trying to remember the last time I was asked out on a date and I literally can’t think of an instance. I guess I usually take the initiative! Weird.
“LMAO. The eater chose the food type, chose the restaurant, and also chose the menu item so what are the chances that the meal is not tasty? Very low.
But, hey if you’re picky anything is possible. Not Hatin.’ Just sayin’!”
Yep, no question that I’m a lot pickier than you, DYE, on every level. Why this is supposed to say something negative about me I’m not so sure. Maybe you should try being more picky?
Also, please never apply for a job as a restaurant critic. I can just see the review…
“So it was Italian, OK? There was pasta and there was tiramisu. What do you mean, was the pasta good? I like pasta, all pasta is good. Wait, al dente? Buffalo mozarella? WTF are you talking about, and why do these things matter? I told you it was Italian.”
All this talk about pasta is making me hungry. Personally, I prefer tomato based pasta dishes to creamy ones.
“Why do women need an “excuse” for not wanting to do anything they want to do? Well they don’t, but they do FEEL the need to make excuses all the time. ”
I feel no need to make excuses about not asking men out, and neither do most of my friends, because…wait for it…we’re feminists. Maybe a forum for traditional ladies would be a more useful place to launch your little crusade?
Also, as others have mentioned, some women do ask men out. I’ve asked men out. So if a woman has never asked you out, then it’s probably because there are no women who meet you and think “wow, what a great guy, I totally want to go out with him.
Now ask yourself why.
Why is it I’ve had to explain to numerous men that a lot of women don’t ask men out because they are shy and afraid of rejection too? Why is this such a hard concept to grasp? Oh I know! because most of the time these types of men don’t even view women as fucking human beings, who are capable of things like insecurity, shyness and anxiety. Nope. Only men are complex like that. Women are just overconfident bitches just waiting to sneer at men.
To that I give these guys a hearty fuck you. Fuck you for thinking you’re the only ones entitled to feel fear, shyness and anxiety. Most of the women in the world are not gorgeous, and since many of you guys make it pretty clear you only want young, submissive hotties, don’t expect us to line up and ask you out since you’d probably reject us anyway.
“In other words – 99% of men don’t have a clue what it feels like to be a woman, and more importantly, THEY DON’T WANT TO, and they don’t care.”
See how I can twist that around? sadly I’m sure many women feel like this too. Because no one listens to each other. Its always about who has it worse. Enough is enough. A lot of you manosphere dudes dont even see women who don’t fit the standards of beauty, thus you start believing the 10% of really attractive women represent the entire population. After everything I’ve read on the manosphere, after finding out about all the woman-haters out there, it just confirms my views to not even bother. I don’t even care if you’re a small minority, why risk it?
*this is meant for Heroicman and all the trolls btw, not any of the non-asshole guys that post here. I wish I knew more men in my life like you guys, seriously.
@ Joanna – do you like tomato sauce with spicy sausage and spinach? If so I have some in the freezer.
@Cassandra – Italian sausage is nommy ^_^ I make a mean sauce with tomato, tuna and lemon juice that’s quite divine =D
“Now ask yourself why.”
But these guys are obviously studly alpha males who’s cocks we’d be privileged to be ravaged by. It’s the billions of other people in the world that are wrong, not them =P
Very few men think women who ask them out on a date are sluts.
True. But many men think women who ask other men out on dates are sluts.
Joanna, have you tried the amazingness that is pink sauce? It’s tomato AND creamy AT THE SAME TIME! I had lobster ravioli with pink sauce on Sunday. It was amazing.
@Quakers: Everyone has the ability to be afraid or anxious or be overly shy. In fact I would go even further in that women tend to fall victim to mental illness (anxiety, depression, etc,,,) more than men.
Women are kind of everything: Sneering bitches, overly shy, feminine, masculine, etc…
I am not going to lie: I want a girlfriend that is attractive, feminine and I tend to like women to be submissive in bed. However, overly submissive women aren’t the answer either. In fact, I can’t stand overly submissive women. She needs her own life and interests. However, the last thing I want to do is fight or argue with my girlfriend when I come home. So women that are argumentative aren’t really attractive to me…or most men in general (there is always that poor schlub).
99% of men don’t know what it is like to be a woman, nor do 99% of women know what it is like to be a man. Well, unless you are lesbian author Norah Vincent:
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Entertainment/story?id=1526982
The whole standard of beauty bit is off. If men only went after thin, blonde girls. Then what explains the HUGE amount of diversity in porn? blondes, brunettes, milfs, bbw, teen, ebony, etc… You are only looking at a very small dataset. It’s like looking at a one-day weather forecast that says “rain all day” and coming to the conclusion that “it rains every day”..If you broadened your scope, men tend to have preferences all over the place.
1. All women are not feminists. Some are. Some are not. Society has more nonfeminists then feminists.
2. As such if society still frowns on women asking men out, more women will not be asking men out.
3. Help feminists by telling women you know that you believe they should be asking men out.
DYE: There’s less dating before sex now…especially in college,
Dude… the fucking ’70s. I remember when herpes, for Christ’s sake was the cover story on Time and Newsweek the same week. Herpes, you see, was going to end the sexual revolution, and kill, “the zipless fuck”.
Why don’t women ask men out? Because if they are even remotely attractive, there will be enough men approaching her through out her life that she doesn’t have to expend any effort to approach men. Why bother approaching men when she can take the passive role and just wait to be approached?
Um because women, like men, can like SPECIFIC guys? xD
Like recently there was this guy I rly rly liked and I needed to approach him b/c guess what, standing around and looking pretty wasn’t going to get him to know that I LIKE HIM! xD
*GASP* xD
Because if they are even remotely attractive, there will be enough men approaching her through out her life that she doesn’t have to expend any effort to approach men.
I get an asston of Asianphiles approaching me, and ppl who don’t understand personal space and try to touch me. >_> But I guess rather than saying,approaching guys my type, or w/ my interests, or who I like… I should just keep standing there while ppl go “Are you Japanese? I love Japanese women.” and “Can you cook Thai food for me?” XD
Somebody once told me they wanted to drink me….
still waiting…
but this is way easier than expending 100 energon cubes and 3 turns to talk to men xD
Hey Pecunium! You’re hot! 😀
*powers down*
Okay… now I can’t post for another 3 days :
why don’t women ask men out?
I know plenty of women who ask men out. xD Including moi xD
Including a ton of ppl here…
But if we’re going to do the homogenous groups thing 😀
Why don’t men ask women out without being racist asshats? xD
Ami… you say the sweetest things.
Women are kind of everything: Sneering bitches, overly shy, feminine, masculine, etc…
yup its true. amazing, right? women can be all sorts of ways and experience all different sorts of things! it’s like they’re about half the population of earth or something.
“I am not going to lie: I want a girlfriend that is attractive, feminine and I tend to like women to be submissive in bed. However, overly submissive women aren’t the answer either. In fact, I can’t stand overly submissive women. She needs her own life and interests. However, the last thing I want to do is fight or argue with my girlfriend when I come home. So women that are argumentative aren’t really attractive to me…or most men in general (there is always that poor schlub).”
Yea this may surprise you but I don’t think many women find argumentative men attractive either, unless they’re into debating. Also submission in bed is one thing, expecting submission in all aspects of life is what I was talking about regarding the types of men that frequent the manosphere. Femininity seems to equal submissive doormat which is complete BS.
“The whole standard of beauty bit is off. If men only went after thin, blonde girls. Then what explains the HUGE amount of diversity in porn? blondes, brunettes, milfs, bbw, teen, ebony, etc… You are only looking at a very small dataset. It’s like looking at a one-day weather forecast that says “rain all day” and coming to the conclusion that “it rains every day”..If you broadened your scope, men tend to have preferences all over the place.”
Yea this is true, but to an extent in my opinion. There is a standard of beauty and I’ve noticed that most men, at least men in my age group of mid 20s tend to go for the same type of woman all the time. There is not much diversity. They’re usually always short and thin…their styles vary, some are girlier, some are not. But body type is always the same. I’m not ticked off about that, it is what it is. But what does tick me off is hearing some men pretend that women don’t suffer too when it comes to dating and act like all we need to do is sit around and men will flock to us. This may work for the small percentage of hotties, but if you don’t fit that mold AND suffer from shyness or introversion, you’re pretty much screwed. There’s a standard of beauty for men too but at least its not as rigid. A guy like Jack Black or Will Ferrell can still make it in Hollywood and get women, female versions of those guys never would though. So yea. We all pretty much suffer.
Ami: some of my Asian friends tell me about their encounters with Asianphiles too. The things they’re told, its so creepy -_-
“If men only went after thin, blonde girls. Then what explains the HUGE amount of diversity in porn? ”
Porn isn’t real life, dude! It’s not meant to be, either.
How about “the HUGE amount of diversity in couples you pass in the street”?