The daffy, excitable Man Going His Own Way who calls himself MarkyMark may be my favorite manosphere blogger of all. Not only does he bring the lulz himself – who can forget the time he wrote a completely unironic point by point rebuttal of an Onion article? – but he also helps to bring attention to the equally stupefying work of others.
In his latest post, he directs our attention to some observations made by fellow MGTOWer Spock’s Disciple on the Happy Bachelors forum on the subject of pussy and its discontents. “This is good stuff, stuff my boys need to read,” Mark writes. “[Spock’s Disciple], like his hero, applied cold hearted logic when analzying pussy. The Force is STRONG with that one!”
Yes, he actually wrote that. I don’t think it’s a joke. I think he honestly does not know that there is a difference between Star Trek and Star Wars. How that is possible, I do not know.
Anyway, on to the eminently rational Spock’s Disciple, reflecting on the irrational power of the ladybits:
Remember that pussy is a biochemical WMD; wherever it is used, there is mass chaos and destruction. How many wars and conflicts have been fought at the urging and behest of women? More than any honest man would admit to and would be proud of.
Young men are apparently helpless in the face of the punany:
The need for pussy is a very real and built in addiction for men. We are hardwired by nature for sex and procreation. … [T]he sight and sound of pussy blinds younger men and allows them to be controlled by women though their hormones.
The, uh, SOUND of pussy? If I had to pick just two (or three, or four) sensory experiences relating to the vagina that would be generally considered appealing to heterosexual males, I’m not sure “sound” would make the cut.
But eventually even the horniest dudes start to get less horny – and thus less hypnotized by the power of the pussy. The only trouble is that by the time they lose interest in sex most of them are married, and they’re now stuck with the woman whose vagina formerly had them in thrall. It’s a grave injustice.
[W]hen most men pass the age of 30-35, they begin to awaken from this biochemical “dream” and what do they awaken beside? What do married men look forward to the next 30-50 years of their lives? Sleeping with a living corpse, which continues to torture and destroy them day by day? Looking forward to the time when the woman undergoes the process of metamorphosis, into a completely insane mummy (menopause and post menopause)?
This seems a tad alarmist. I mean, if your wife turns into a monster zombie-mummy – as all women apparently do after they hit their mid-thirties – you could always get separate bedrooms.
But Obi-Wan’s Spock’s Disciple has a more radical solution: don’t get into bed with the ladies in the first place!
Pussy is indeed way overrated and if younger men could get a shot of “anti-testosterone” for a few weeks, they could see through the eyes of men who are 40+; without the haze of hormones, you cannot believe how much farther you can see! It’s the difference between seeing the horizon through LA style smog and seeing the horizon from a high mountain in the Rockies.
Pussy is a man’s Achilles heel; once that man realizes this and takes the appropriate steps, he’ll never lose his peace of mind again. To these skeptical young men I say, there is an infinitely vast arena where you can have anything you desire, and can succeed at anything you wish to try for; all you have to do is see women for what they truly are, and become a master of the beast within; once you do that women’s true face will be visible to you, and you’ll never again partake of that foul potion.
It is possible to tame that beast, and indeed it is a certainty that you will learn much from the process of taming it; all it takes is patience and time. Look at your fellow men, your brothers in arms, and look at their almost invisible chains, and wonder at why you would desire such an existence for yourself?
And, hey, if all else fails, MarkyMark adds some advice of his own: pay a visit to Pamela Handerson before going out on the town with one of those vagina-people.
[T]here is one thing that the younger men can do until their sex drives die down permanently: masturbate before going out with a woman. … To put it another way, since the little head had been, shall we say, quieted down, the bigger head could work properly; the bigger head will then allow you to see a woman for who she REALLY is.
If you’re a fan of Spock, and looking for appropriate masturbatory material, might I suggest this?
Oh, MarkyMark, don’t you have a city to run?
This is creepy, but also funny.
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Crepunny?
I think I have a bruise from all the *headdesk*-ing I’ve done this week… wtf?
Hey wait, aren’t there young men who aren’t interested in sex wth women? Oh, right, they’re not real men. Silly me!
What I always find funny about the “they’ll trap you into marriage with their insidious vaginas” argument is that it’s not hard to have sex and not get married. And I don’t really know anybody who got married just to ensure regular sex. Most of the people I know who are married have this weird thing where they like each other. Even when nobody’s junk is touching!
My grandparents were married for 57 years. When we lost my grandma she was 73. All gross and old and over 30! And yet, my grandfather still talks about how he misses her. It’s like… It’s like there was something else there, other than youthful genitals.
Also, what about those of us who dated without even kissing? How did we get “trapped” by a vulva we had never seen? (or heard, apparently)
I mean my spouse and I managed to get to know each other and be compatible on several levels before we got married, and amazingly enough, we still get along really well.
Anyone else getting a historical “Greek-Sparta/Roman” vibe from this?
Saving young men from women, one “mentor” at a time?
It’s funny because the only thing I can focus on is the terrible example of Implausible Exposition in the Star Trek comic above.
What kind of a spaceship captain would never have heard of a black hole? It’s kind of like on CSI and Bones when they have one of the scientific investigators go “and now I’ll do a spectrum chromatography, which consists of…” even though everyone in the room is supposed to have done at least one in high school and be familiar with techniques that are a zillion times more complicated.
Unless Spock was then to follow up with “It is 20th century slang for what we now call a Berenstein Manifold of Type 3. Sort of inaccurate but gets the point across.” 😉
Wow, Spock must really disappointed in this guy. Highly illogical.
MarkyMark is a special kind of dumb.
I see Spock’s Disciple is getting his history from The Big Book of Larnin’.
Sure, why not? I also think it’s kind of funny. I mean, I’m laughing “at” not “with” but still. Also, I don’t think the advice to *ahem* do the wash by hand is particularly misogynistic. Comparing women’s genitalia to WMDs is misogynistic. And saying that young men are helpless in the face of the “butterfly” is both ridiculous and misandric.
But taking care of business prior to date, especially if it’s been a while and you find the person incredibly physically attractive is decent, gender neutral advice.
For guys who reduce women to their genitals, the “sound” of pussy is just women talking, laughing, participating in the world, etc.
But taking care of business prior to date, especially if it’s been a while and you find the person incredibly physically attractive is decent, gender neutral advice.
Yeah, the only problem there is that I doubt very much MarkyMark or his followers would ever believe this advice could be applied to women under any circumstances.
@Dracula, of course not! Women never masturbate. My hand/sex toys aren’t going to buy me anything!
But yeah, it does kind of seem like he has reasonable ideas buried under a fuckton of blind hatred. On this Onion rebuttal (fight the power, man!) he talks about how being friends first with the two girlfriends he has had allowed them to learn about each other and whether they are compatible. Which totally works for a lot of people. I just don’t know how you reconcile that with “the bitchez, they will manipulate you with their magic ladybits.”
They were* compatible. And me on the bus to my English syntax class.
These guys realize you can just decide not to have sex and/or get married, right? It’s a real option! It’s not even that unusual!
But they’re not really saying they don’t want to do these things, of course. They’re saying that they want to do them in a world where women are perfectly submissive and don’t age past 29. Refusing to date is, to them, only an expression of rage in not living in that world, and not an actual decision.
I think they also genuinely think it’s some sort of pressure tactic, like any day now women are going to beat down their door screaming “I changed my mind about having needs or experiencing human aging, please take me back!” and then won’t they show everybody.
How much of this is real anger and distrust of the “pussy addiction” versus sour grapes about not being able to trick women into having sex with them?
He also said,
He must never leave the house if he doesn’t know at least one happily married man. Sure some marriages are bad but there are also a lot of good ones. I’m starting to think that MRA’s come from a parallel universe.
Seriously, where are these guys meeting all these supposedly horrible women? Are they all just terrible judges of character?
Oh, c’mon manboobzers! At least female ones!
Where would they get ideas of the p***y being a WMD? Just look at your posts on manboobz.com! For vicious, man-hating, vindictiveness, malice, and mean mindedness, a LOT of female posts here would indeed go far!
I’m still wondering when Futrelle is going to change the name of his blog here from manboobz to womenbeinghateful.com?
Where do they meet them? Who knows if they even have the nerve to talk to women in real life… or that how they see their own relationships unfold and eventually end are remotely based in reality? “Unreliable narrator” is an understatement with the MRA crowd.
You know you’re not funny, right, Meller? I’m not even criticizing your ideology right now, because at this point you’re really more tiresome than genuinely offensive, but seriously, you don’t actually have a sense of humor. Quit trying to make jokes.
Jeez, Davey… go on and prove my point about unreliable narrators! I can’t find a man-hating post anywhere on this site. I’ve seen a lot of idiot-hating posts, and a lot of asshole-hating posts, but those are rightly earned by the idiots and the assholes.
You need to face reality: there’s basically no one out there who hates all men, and there’s no anti-man conspiracy out there. There are a few loud nutter misandrists out there, who have fuck-all when it comes to influencing anyone on any subject. Certainly there’s no one here posting that I’ve seen who dislikes men in general.
People just dislike YOU. Because of your personality, not your penis. Because of your behavior, not your balls.
Meller-toad, cite at least three posts from women who post in these threads that indicate man-hating, generally as opposed to specifically. For example, a post that chastises and/or criticizes men who want to rape 14 year old girls will be unacceptable as will any posts that address your, specific, vindictive, bile-filled nature.
You assert that there “a LOT” of these posts. I am only asking that you cite, with links, a mere three.
Bedsores and Loneliness!!!!
Nobinayamu, the uber-shrike