Here’s the bravely anonymous alpha blogger behind “Danger & Play ~ An online magazine for alpha males” explaining “Why You Should Cheat on Your Girlfriend.” I’ve bolded my favorite bit:
Haters will tell you to, “Man up! Break up with your girlfriend if you’re not happy.” They are missing the point. You want to have your cake, and to eat it too. Steady, reliable pussy and the occasional strange is the best of all worlds.
Cheating is a lot of fun, and it’s something I highly recommend. It’s way more exhilarating than bungee jumping, and few things feel as good as banging your girlfriend on the same day you banged some strange.
Cheating keeps your game tight. The best way to regulate your girlfriend is knowing you can bang chicks as hot or hotter than your girl. Well, when you cheat, this isn’t hypothetical. It’s reality.
Somehow I’m guessing there’s a lot more “hypothetical” than “reality” going on in this guy’s posts.
You don’t want an exclusive relationship? Fine. There’s no law saying you have to be in one. You can date casually and non-exclusively. You can have an open or polyamorous relationship. There are a lot of people out there in relationships, yet happily fucking other people outside of them. They’re just above board with it.
But that’s not what’s going on with our PUA friend here. With his talk about “regulat[ing]” girlfriends, he seems more interested in fucking over his girlfriend (assuming such a creature really exists) than he is in fucking strangers (sorry, “stranges”).
That’s not “Game.” That’s just being a dick.
But, hey, Nietzsche! He’s BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL! Or, as he puts it in a comment, “Shame and guilt are beta.”
You know, if you have to go around telling everyone what an Nietzschean ubermensch you are, you’re probably aren’t much of a Nietzschean ubermensch.
Seriously, fucking citation needed. Put up or shut up, Meller.
Yeah, when I found that comment from the Coalpha Brotherhood, I had to share it in this thread. Their theory was that men age better and therefore it’s okay for men to cheat on their wives with prostitutes, but of course women should be monogamous. I agree that every individual ages differently. However, women are encouraged to use wrinkle creams, Botox, and extreme diets to try to keep up their looks more then men. Our beauty obsessed culture (at least in the US) is starting to push men into the anti aging market, too, though.
It’s funny to me that some of the MRA types imagine they will look like Robert Redford when they’re older, and never consider they may look more like Abe Vigoda, no offense to anyone who might find Abe Vigoda attractive. I’m also amazed they claim women in their forties are so gross when Halle Berry and Selma Hayek are 45. If they’re ugly, then I want to be ugly, too.
I don’t know, guys. Me and my boyfriend have this weird thing where we care about each other, and the reason we don’t cheat on one another in order to maintain dominance and control is not because it’s against society’s rules and we haven’t read enough Nietzsche. It’s because the idea of doing that to someone you love (or to anyone, really) is unbelievably unappealing. Is there… Is there something wrong with us? Help, I care about my partner and don’t know how to stop :-O.
Viscaria, all you need to do is be really whiney and use your bf for his money. That way, he’s more inclined to cheat to get you to step up your game. You’re welcome =D
So I read “On the Genealogy of Morality” and while I think it makes a lot of good points I didn’t see anything in there on cheating on a potential girlfriend.
Hey Joanna, thanks! I suppose I should try stop enjoying our sex life, too, so that sex can be something he manages to trick me into via mad game rather than something we share for mutual pleasure.
Meller: “there’s a world of men out there, don’t limit yourself to one…” and other such encouragement of infidelity in girlyspace.
That’s not cheating, not if you tell your partner about it.
Just like having sex with Kajira slave-girls in a paga tavern isn’t cheating on your Free Companion.
The Nietzschean ubermensch is really fond of changing people’s comments. Why even turn them on, if he can’t handle what people say?
Well of course women cheat. People cheat and women are people. If the piece referenced by the OP were regendered it would still be kind of gross and disturbing. And while I don’t necessarily consider infidelity within romantic relationships an inherently feminist issue, if the cited writing were regendered, I would consider it misandry worth mocking.
I think one of the best things about living in an era with so much more freedom is that includes the freedom to openly and honestly seek out relationships that aren’t monogamous if that’s your preference and to have relationships that are if it’s what you want.
He also invited everyone to check my blog out =D
The key here for me is use of the term “strange.” Not “stranger” – a stranger is a person. But “strange,” as in “strange pussy.” Women aren’t people in these guy’s minds. They’re vaginas with legs. People have inconvenient feelings and needs and preferences. Vaginas just need to have a dick in them. Whoever commented that sex for these guys is basically masturbation is right on.
That’s very kind of him! He is nothing but kindness. And comment rewriting. (Vacuumslayer too, I see.)
I am tempted to say, “Nuh-uh” and leave it at that to the proposition that PUAs are having bad, points-scoring sex with disappointed yet eager-to-please party girls. It *is* productive to try to steer men away from the cult-like elements and away from practicing non-consensual kink. (If submissive femininity is women’s being-in-the-world, she doesn’t need to consent, she “is” the kink.) I think anyone who wants to handle the issues seriously would do well to read all of Clarisse Thorn’s blog entries on Pick-Up.
Do these people even want women for something other than sex? Wouldn’t their needs be better served by sex workers and/or fuckbuddies? Don’t get in a relationship unless you want a relationship.
Ozymandias, I don’t think they would like it as much if their sexual partners were okay with them having other sexual partners. They probably get their thrills from sneaking around, lying, and making their partner feel undesirable. Either that or they can’t find women that will agree to give them casual sex, so they promise a monogamous relationship with no intention of keeping that promise.
Ozy, “Dangerandplay” seems to be in it for the pleasure of crushing women’s personalities, not just the sex. I mean, how can one string along a woman until she’s “used up,” a practice he approves of in the comments, if she’s a prostitute?
Yeah, I think casual, mutually beneficial sex removes the joy of shitting all over another human being’s self-esteem for these guys.
Apparently, we’re all going to leave our boyfriends or husbands for this guy. Who knew?
Wow, “used up”, huh? Exactly how many sexual encounters do women have in their sex banks? Does it vary by individual? Is it set at birth? Should I be rationing more carefully so that I can still have sex later in life?
To clarify, that’s not a quote of our friend Dangerandsociopathy. Rather, he approved of “tear[ing] up” a woman’s vagina–how do you do that? Having sex, apparently–while stringing her along. Elsewhere, he talks about how any woman over twenty-six is a cougar by definition, even if she’s very attractive. Basically what I’m trying to say is that you shouldn’t expect logic or objective criteria from these people.
Moewicus, if you try to bring rational argument into it, he turns you into a fat, yeasty vagina.
“Elsewhere, he talks about how any woman over twenty-six is a cougar by definition, even if she’s very attractive. ”
So basically he’s about 18? That would explain a lot.
Yeah, some PUAs fully admit that much of what they call “alpha behavior” consists of being an asshole. Their attitude is, “Well, I didn’t want to be an asshole to start with, but you sick, twisted females are most attracted to assholes who mistreat you, so what the hell, I will embrace my evil side and have fun doing it, and get lots more sex thereby.” This subcategory of PUAs are not ashamed to call themselves dicks. They are proud.
On the other hand, he has a few good tips on avoiding a false rape allegation:
dangerandplay.wordpress.com/2011/09/21/how-to-avoid-a-false-rape-case/
Just like at work, you got to cover your ass.
Felix, Nietzsche was well known for changing the comments on his blog (Fred’s UberThoughts); it’s what ubermenschen do.