Here’s the bravely anonymous alpha blogger behind “Danger & Play ~ An online magazine for alpha males” explaining “Why You Should Cheat on Your Girlfriend.” I’ve bolded my favorite bit:
Haters will tell you to, “Man up! Break up with your girlfriend if you’re not happy.” They are missing the point. You want to have your cake, and to eat it too. Steady, reliable pussy and the occasional strange is the best of all worlds.
Cheating is a lot of fun, and it’s something I highly recommend. It’s way more exhilarating than bungee jumping, and few things feel as good as banging your girlfriend on the same day you banged some strange.
Cheating keeps your game tight. The best way to regulate your girlfriend is knowing you can bang chicks as hot or hotter than your girl. Well, when you cheat, this isn’t hypothetical. It’s reality.
Somehow I’m guessing there’s a lot more “hypothetical” than “reality” going on in this guy’s posts.
You don’t want an exclusive relationship? Fine. There’s no law saying you have to be in one. You can date casually and non-exclusively. You can have an open or polyamorous relationship. There are a lot of people out there in relationships, yet happily fucking other people outside of them. They’re just above board with it.
But that’s not what’s going on with our PUA friend here. With his talk about “regulat[ing]” girlfriends, he seems more interested in fucking over his girlfriend (assuming such a creature really exists) than he is in fucking strangers (sorry, “stranges”).
That’s not “Game.” That’s just being a dick.
But, hey, Nietzsche! He’s BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL! Or, as he puts it in a comment, “Shame and guilt are beta.”
You know, if you have to go around telling everyone what an Nietzschean ubermensch you are, you’re probably aren’t much of a Nietzschean ubermensch.
Yeah… no.
First off as a man’s man and a ladies man(ha!), I can tell you that any definition of a “real man” has to include integrity somewhere in the top 2 items on your personal checklist. This whole “Alpha male as proudly dishonest cretin” business is the exact opposite of something that decent people would aspire to.
Second, I agree with the assumption that PUAs aren’t particularly good at sex, or having very much of it. You have to wonder if the PUAs need for multiple sexual partners is based in part on not having the physical… ummm… “skills” to keep a woman interested, on top of them being emotionally empty. I mean, if a guy for some reason feels the need to brag about something sexual it would probably be more impressive to keep his girlfriend/wife happy in be for years on end, rather than having quick and unsatisfying sex with a whole lot of anonymous women once each.
I have my own pet theory about PUA guys, and it basically goes that they’re all a bunch of suckers. You’ve got these PUA gurus or whatever, writing books and giving seminars and holding conferences and workshops and such, all saying “Look how laid I’m getting! Buy my [insert good or service here] to find out how!” According to whom are these guys getting laid so much? You only have the word of someone who’s obviously trying to sell you something. They’re no different then any other self-help con artist.
On top of that, and this relates to Ozy’s comments about going along with it, how many PUAs who think they’ve totally worked their Game successfully have been played for chumps by women who just wanted a quick fuck themselves, so they just went along with his transparent bullshit to get what they wanted out of him? All these “techniques” are readily available to the public. Do these guys honestly think women can’t figure out how to exploit it for their own benefit?
“Do these guys honestly think women can’t figure out how to exploit it for their own benefit?”
I ashamedly admit that I used to use guys in bars to buy me drinks…and then not go home with them. >.>
*le gasp* How misandrist of me! =O
When you read Roissy, danger and play, or other PUA stuff, it’s obvious these guys don’t actually like women. They also believe that whenever women have sex, they lose some “sexual market value”. Is that part of the reason they want to have sex with a lot of women? They don’t like women, so they want to sleep with them in order to “damage” them. It’s like they’re not in it for the fun of having sex, but for getting back at women in general. It’s such a sad way to treat something as great as sex.
This is strange and disturbing. Let’s talk about robot snakes instead.
What would you people do without those PUA and reddit clowns …
Instead of warning his brothers to avoid all women, he encourages the most hazardous lifestyle that a man can have. How long until this clown is falsely accused of DV or SA by an angry jilted “strange”?
Idiot.
Pretty much their interpretation. There’s some problematic parts in Nietzsche (I like some parts of it, but most of the good parts also can be found in Stirner, so there’s really no need to hitch yourself to the Nietzschean bandwagon) but most of them misinterpret the idea that one ought to be beyond good and evil (by which one examines the world without ideological preconceptions brought about by societal or individual prejudices) with actively embracing doing things that society considers evil.
What about all of the books, videos, radio talkshows, websites, and even classes aggressively marketed to women, that encourage and celebrate FEMALE infidelity? Thought that we wouldn’t notice that, didn’t you, although they are as hard to miss, is this feminist hellhole of a country, as a full grown elephant in your bathtub!
PEACE AND FREEDOM
David K. Meller
“What about all of the books, videos, radio talkshows, websites, and even classes aggressively marketed to women, that encourage and celebrate FEMALE infidelity? ”
What? Where?
I’m just trying to imagine how fucked up I’d have to be to want to actively hurt my partner. Seriously, I try to put myself in this space and imagine it and…yeah, I’ve got nothing. I can’t imagine myself looking at my baby and thinking “You know what would be awesome? Fucking around on you just ’cause I can especially because I’m certain it would hurt you. That shit would rock.”
And I’m pretty “pro” sexual variety.
Still, I’ve seen examples of men and women who stayed with partners who cheated on them constantly despite not having any kind of equitable understanding. It seemed to do a real number on their self-esteem but one could argue, I suppose, that they were happier with their partner than without them. I guess.
I don’t know…
God, I bet this guy is awful in bed. This just reeks of sexual insecurity.
Joanna, I think he means anything advertized as “embracing your sexuality”, “dating where you make the first move”, and “dumping partners who are actually awful but your self esteem is too horrible for you to realize this”.
One thing is clear from their ravings: these guys are incapable of intimacy. Intimacy, which can be had with a casual partner as well as a long-term one, is what makes having sex with another person so much more pleasurable than, you know, mere masturbation. These guys, however, are very unfortunate in that they only know how to masturbate. On the off chance they have sex with a woman (not likely in any event), they use the woman’s body basically as a hand to jerk off with. Even if not impotent, they are sexually defective — which explains their frustration.
Yeah Zarat, I’m sure “false” accusations are exactly what people who treat women like objects without agency who exist to be conquered and disposed of have to worry about. Gods, you’re ridiculous.
Live in a world that was better in several small but significant ways.
Don’t you know that caring about whether your female partner has pleasure is soooo beta?
“What would you people do without those PUA and reddit clowns …”
Looking at pictures of bunnies, probably. Or mopping, which I should get to right now… 😛
I hate comparing my past relationships, but if I compare my last relationship with my current relationship I have to say I’m much happier in my current one. In my last one I was inclined to look at other guys and even have “forbidden thoughts” about other guys, and I guess that was because I wasn’t 100% happy in that relationship.
Now, I can’t even look at another guy the same way as I do with my bf. Even thinking about sex with another guy is just…gross. Besides… there’s no way the sex could possibly be better with anyone else XD I must just be a lot happier with my current partner. These PUAs will probably never be happy with anyone and will just float from stranger to stranger having meaningless, mediocre sex. Poor them.
I’d venture a guess they don’t even like sex itself that much. The real enjoyment for them is telling about it. It’s really pathetic.
DKM, I guess I have some ideas of what you might mean, but my morbid curiosity has got the better of me: can you give us some examples?
Antz: What would you people do without those PUA and reddit clowns …
Be happy for that much less misogyny in the world.
Meller: Don’t you have some woman to convince to become your slave, so you can show her how much you love her by letting he rpush your buttons so you can beat on her?
Molly: He means anything which allows women to have any sense of sexual agency at all. He thinks women are supposed to be sexual; but they are supposed to long for the touch of “The Master”, and the master is the one who decides if she gets to have any sort of affectionate contact.
That way they will be love starved (and remember, they should never go out of doors in an immodest fashion), and so be hanging all over him, if he permits it.
I think that Eat, Pray, Love was about some woman cheating on her husband. That is “celebrating” it because there was a book, a movie and um…that is all. A book, A movie not dozens, which indicates to me that apparently this mass movement is all in DKM’s mind.
There also was criticism from at least one feminist magazine.
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About the topic, it is sad that this is about controlling someone. How can anyone be happy in that kind of situation?
Drink a lot less.